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For the record, Dixons, Curry's and PC World have now withdrawn the game from sale :thumbsdown:

EDIT: As far as I know these are UK only chains
 
Originally posted by: spherrod
For the record, Dixons, Curry's and PC World have now withdrawn the game from sale :thumbsdown:

EDIT: As far as I know these are UK only chains
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They're also one and the same they're all owned by DSG so if it's removed from one it will be removed from all
 
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: spherrod
For the record, Dixons, Curry's and PC World have now withdrawn the game from sale :thumbsdown:

EDIT: As far as I know these are UK only chains
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They're also one and the same they're all owned by DSG so if it's removed from one it will be removed from all
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Knew Dixons and Curry's were the same but PC World as well? That explains why they're all naff
 
Originally posted by: spherrod
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: spherrod
For the record, Dixons, Curry's and PC World have now withdrawn the game from sale :thumbsdown:

EDIT: As far as I know these are UK only chains
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They're also one and the same they're all owned by DSG so if it's removed from one it will be removed from all
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Knew Dixons and Curry's were the same but PC World as well? That explains why they're all naff
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Yup they're all the same and yes they are all crap 🙂
 
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I am getting REALLY FSCKING TIRED of this crap. Every time a kid decides to go apesh|t and shoot up a school or set a baby on fire, the first thing that comes to mind is: It must be a video game's fault. How convenient.

In the 80s, heavy metal got the blame for kids killing themselves instead of violence in video games. Times change, but the need for a convenient scapegoat to blame your kid's problems on apparently hasn't. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: Modeps
I still want to start a website called "Blame GTA", and this article would be good for it, but I dont have enough ambition anymore. I'm too busy caught up in the real world. 😱
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Why GTA? That is the game which inspired me to get my motorcyle license so I can jump ramps onto roof-tops! (stairway to nowhere few blocks down of the firestation, 1 block from the gunshop)
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well, it wouldnt JUST be gta, but that's what gave me the idea. so many people blame that game for their actions, like the kids with a rifle shooting at passing cars from a hill and what not.
 
Yes, parents bring up their children _perfectly_.
Our world is perfect, the only crime present is caused by evil video games.
Kids only steal, lie or kill because of video games, there _can not be_ any other explanation.
Finally: nothing else ever happens, events like this are _always_ the most interesting piece of news, we have no other problems.

Crime didn't exist before GTA and Manhunt.
 
Good times, good times.

The game may have pushed the kid over the edge, but only because he was psycho to begin with. The parents were either too blind, too disconnected or too stupid to see the warning signs.
 
You gotta blame something.

That said, i rented manhunt w/ a friend of mine. At first we were like, dude this is disgusting, we can't play this. After an hour it was like, "Ah man, you didnt get the violet kill, you suck."

A final note, i dont think movie/game violence desensitizes you to real violence, just fake movie/game violence. I dont get bothered that easily w/ games and movies, but when i see real blood, just a little, i freak out.
 
While its true that video games dont make murderers out of kids Im sure it does not help. Murder simulators may be more of a correct term than you think. Take FarCry for example; how many things did you have to kill to beat the game? How many times did you yourself die or see others be killed? Doom 3 looks extremely gorey and sickening.
While blame for the media has been going on for quite some time, there is no question that our games have gotten MUCH more violent. The very term FPS (First Person Shooter) tells you somewhat of how games have evolved with more and more bloodshed. The kid definatley has some problems, but if almost all he did was play this sickening game his sense of reallity becomes warped.
In the 1950's you couldnt say the word "pregnant" on tv. Times have changed drasticly and with the innovation of such lifelike graphics whos to say that some of the blame should not fall on the media industry? Though many of you are quick to defend the video game companies, saying that "well that kid was fvked up!" But this type of violence seems to be happening more and more.
Although parents really need to pay attention to what their children are playing/watching/doing. They should really filter though these things.
Obviously this matter is much more complicated and the blame really falls in no one particular place. I myself have played violent video games and havent given it very much thought, but Im sure it affects me on many levels. I think its great that some games (soldier of fortune) have parental locks on them for level of violence. Granted shooting someone without blood and guts is still shooting someone, it is a much better option. There really is no bottom line to this. The best thing to do about it is to monitor your kids.

If you make a direct reply to my post please PM me and I will check it out. I am not subscribing cause I hate my inbox being flooded. Thanks
 
Originally posted by: Jynx980
While its true that video games dont make murderers out of kids Im sure it does not help. Murder simulators may be more of a correct term than you think. Take FarCry for example; how many things did you have to kill to beat the game? How many times did you yourself die or see others be killed? Doom 3 looks extremely gorey and sickening.
While blame for the media has been going on for quite some time, there is no question that our games have gotten MUCH more violent. The very term FPS (First Person Shooter) tells you somewhat of how games have evolved with more and more bloodshed. The kid definatley has some problems, but if almost all he did was play this sickening game his sense of reallity becomes warped.
In the 1950's you couldnt say the word "pregnant" on tv. Times have changed drasticly and with the innovation of such lifelike graphics whos to say that some of the blame should not fall on the media industry? Though many of you are quick to defend the video game companies, saying that "well that kid was fvked up!" But this type of violence seems to be happening more and more.
Although parents really need to pay attention to what their children are playing/watching/doing. They should really filter though these things.
Obviously this matter is much more complicated and the blame really falls in no one particular place. I myself have played violent video games and havent given it very much thought, but Im sure it affects me on many levels. I think its great that some games (soldier of fortune) have parental locks on them for level of violence. Granted shooting someone without blood and guts is still shooting someone, it is a much better option. There really is no bottom line to this. The best thing to do about it is to monitor your kids.

If you make a direct reply to my post please PM me and I will check it out. I am not subscribing cause I hate my inbox being flooded. Thanks
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The main problem is the media is jumping on one aspect of this case - it's not as simple as he played a game which made him into a killer, but any other factors in his life which may have influenced have been ignored in the sensationalist press.
 
I'd rather live in a world where I'm free to play any video game I wish even it pushes a few psychos over the edge rather than be censured on what I can or cannot do by a government whose ONLY purpose should be defense and the facilitation of trade, nothing more.

Rockstar should sue those parents as their frivolous lawsuit will likely put a dent into revenues.
 
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Manhunt is a gross game. I don't really think anyone should be playing it. But, it is also a free country, so I don't think the Gov't should be saying they can't either. The company should have had some morals and never have made it though.
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So what you're saying is according to your morals they shouldn't have made it.

I'm not trying to start a flamefest or anything so don't take this in the wrong way it's not a personal attack but everybodys morals are different and who is to say one set of morals is more correct than another?

Suffice to say if there is a market for something it will be made regardless of whether some group or faction think it's immoral (sp?), I personally think bondage and S&M are depraved and disgusting but some people are into it, that doesn't make them any less moral than me or any worse as a person because of it, it just means they have different values.
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You probbably think they're disgusting because you have no clue what they're about. Fetish = Fun, you just gotta find your kink.

Sorry, that one hit a nerve 🙂
 
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Manhunt is a gross game. I don't really think anyone should be playing it. But, it is also a free country, so I don't think the Gov't should be saying they can't either. The company should have had some morals and never have made it though.
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So what you're saying is according to your morals they shouldn't have made it.

I'm not trying to start a flamefest or anything so don't take this in the wrong way it's not a personal attack but everybodys morals are different and who is to say one set of morals is more correct than another?

Suffice to say if there is a market for something it will be made regardless of whether some group or faction think it's immoral (sp?), I personally think bondage and S&M are depraved and disgusting but some people are into it, that doesn't make them any less moral than me or any worse as a person because of it, it just means they have different values.
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You probbably think they're disgusting because you have no clue what they're about. Fetish = Fun, you just gotta find your kink.

Sorry, that one hit a nerve 🙂
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No I know what they're about it just turns me off personally, I have no problem with people who do enjoy it, it's their bag, it just doesn't interest me...
 
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Manhunt is a gross game. I don't really think anyone should be playing it. But, it is also a free country, so I don't think the Gov't should be saying they can't either. The company should have had some morals and never have made it though.
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So what you're saying is according to your morals they shouldn't have made it.

I'm not trying to start a flamefest or anything so don't take this in the wrong way it's not a personal attack but everybodys morals are different and who is to say one set of morals is more correct than another?

Suffice to say if there is a market for something it will be made regardless of whether some group or faction think it's immoral (sp?), I personally think bondage and S&M are depraved and disgusting but some people are into it, that doesn't make them any less moral than me or any worse as a person because of it, it just means they have different values.
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Relativism is going to be the downfall of society. You can't say "well, they think it's right, so it's okay for them..."

What about Heaven's Gate? That was their "value" they were adhering to, correct? You're going to have to come to grips with the fact that humans can, are, have been, and always will be wrong, and that some things cannot be put in relative terms. Matters of taste, yes (i.e. "I may not like that color, but I guess he does"), but not in matters of responsibility (i.e. "well, I may like to give my child clothes that fit him, but I guess he doesn't"), or in matters of morals ("well, I may not like to rape others, but some other people do, so I guess that's okay").

Morality is not hard to define, either. Rule of thumb, if it hurts someone else, or hurts yourself, it's :thumbsdown: (this excludes things like say, training for kickboxing, and the like).
 
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