Two-year colleges lack services to reduce unplanned pregnancies

[Bateluer]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/10/06/stepp.community.colleges/index.html

Half of college-bound students go to community colleges, and fewer than one out of every four students who begin community college finish with a degree -- although some additional students transfer to four-year schools. As public officials talk about graduating an additional 5 million community college students, they neglect to champion one of the most significant things they could do: support efforts to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies.

There's logic behind this, a twisted logic to be sure, but its there. If you get pregnant, it does kinda derail your school and educational plans. But, when are we going to start treating kids as adults? The article notes the ages between 18-29. You dang well better know where baby comes from at 18. I'm not seeing how its the schools responsibility to educate their students on unintended pregnancies. An 18 year old should be familiar with contraceptives, or know enough to keep their legs closed. A failing of the parents perhaps?

 

[ShawnD1]

I don't understand your thread title

Two-year colleges lack services to reduce unplanned pregnancies

So..... we're supposed to build abortion clinics inside the college? Just take the fucking bus to the nearest clinic. Jesus Christ. This level is retarded is why they are in a community college.

 

[EagleKeeper]

If one does not have the brains to understand how to get pregnant, do you epect them to have the brains to make it through college.

It is not the taxpayers responsibility to provide sex ed at this period in life.

 

[Schadenfroh]

At this point there is no hope for them if they do not understand how to avoid pregnancy.

A college should not have to teach Sex-Ed, provide on-site abortions or free contraceptives.

 

[ShawnD1]

A college should not have to teach Sex-Ed, provide on-site abortions or free contraceptives.

I should set up a booth that provides students with free coat hangers. When people ask why they would need a bendy metal coat hanger, I'll just say "When it's time, you'll know"

 

[Bateluer]

I don't understand your thread title

Its the title of the CNN article.

 

[Ronstang]

If one does not have the brains to understand how to get pregnant, do you epect them to have the brains to make it through college.

It is not the taxpayers responsibility to provide sex ed at this period in life.

Unfortunately liberals feel it is my responsibility as a taxpayer to support the child once it is born. I have to support mine that I choose to have and Shaniqua's because she cannot afford to support hers.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Unfortunately liberals feel it is my responsibility as a taxpayer to support the child once it is born. I have to support mine that I choose to have and Shaniqua's because she cannot afford to support hers.

Unfortunately the rabid fundie arm of the GOP thinks every sperm is sacred and fights tooth and nail against better access to normal contraceptives, condoms, emergency contraceptives and abortions . . . leading to those taxpayer-subsidized children.

"Let's just allow abstinence-only sex education because God says sex is sinful."

It's too bad the fiscal conservatives depend on the fundies to get elected, and owe them favors in return.

 

[DaveSimmons]

In South Carolina, for example, only 6 percent of two-year schools have on-site health centers. This compares with 85 percent of four-year schools in that state.

Only 28 percent of two-year schools make condoms available. At four-year schools, 40 percent do. None of the two-year schools provides emergency contraception.

College freshmen and -women are going to have sex. Having an on-site nurse to hand out free condoms and to direct women to family planning centers seems like enlightened self-interest for us taxpayers.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

What's going to cost the taxpayer less? An abortion, or 18 years of welfare?

 

[Bateluer]

What's going to cost the taxpayer less? An abortion, or 18 years of welfare?

Or the students could spend a couple of bucks on contraceptives at the local Walmart?

 

[Schadenfroh]

the rabid fundie arm of the GOP thinks every sperm is sacred

Most "rabid fundies" that I know have no problem with condoms, birth control pills, etc. They do have a problem with abortion (especially late-term)... unless Catholics (generally against contraceptives) are considered "rabid fundie GOPers."

What's going to cost the taxpayer less? An abortion, or 18 years of welfare?

Contraceptives are far cheaper than abortions.

 

[ShawnD1]

Contraceptives are far cheaper than abortions.

How much does forced sterilization cost?

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Or the students could spend a couple of bucks on contraceptives at the local Walmart?

Yeah, but they're not doing that are they?

 

[Modelworks]

If they don't understand the full repercussions of sex by the time they are in college there is no hope for them.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I don't understand your thread title



So..... we're supposed to build abortion clinics inside the college? Just take the fucking bus to the nearest clinic. Jesus Christ. This level is retarded is why they are in a community college.

You think abortion is a means to prevent unplanned pregnancies?

How is babby formed?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If they don't understand the full repercussions of sex by the time they are in college there is no hope for them.

Abstinence is the worst of all contraceptives because it doesn't work at all.

Perhaps free condoms instead of retarded bullsheit would be a good idea?

 

[Ronstang]

Abstinence is the worst of all contraceptives because it doesn't work at all.

Perhaps free condoms instead of retarded bullsheit would be a good idea?

How about making people pay for the babies they make? It used to work great until the liberals broke the system. Removing the consequences of bad behavior and expecting that behavior to change is truly ignorant.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If one does not have the brains to understand how to get pregnant, do you epect them to have the brains to make it through college.

It is not the taxpayers responsibility to provide sex ed at this period in life.

NO sex ed + abstinence only produces people who don't even get how women get pregnant or what can be done to prevent it.

It's a fucking Catholic or fundie disease.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

How about making people pay for the babies they make? It used to work great until the liberals broke the system. Removing the consequences of bad behavior and expecting that behavior to change is truly ignorant.

People will still fuck and then poverty rates will skyrocket along with crime...

It has been tried before...

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

How about making people pay for the babies they make? It used to work great until the liberals broke the system. Removing the consequences of bad behavior and expecting that behavior to change is truly ignorant.

Yeah, because making children suffer because of their parents bad decisions is conservative way.

Facepalm.

 

[Modelworks]

NO sex ed + abstinence only produces people who don't even get how women get pregnant or what can be done to prevent it.

It's a fucking Catholic or fundie disease.

Where are the parents ? You know the ones that gave birth and are supposed to raise their own kids.

Do you really believe there are 18 year old people walking around that have no idea how women get pregnant ?

You have a child you pay for it, if you don't have the money you work. I'm sick of hearing about people that have 3 children by the age of 18 and how they are unfortunate and should be pitied. Sex has consequences and if you are not willing to live up to them then keep it in your pants .

 

[DaveSimmons]

^ that's nice in theory, but as a taxpayer if the pragmatic, real-world choice is between me paying for their condoms or me paying welfare or earned income credit for their kid, I'd rather pay for the condoms.

Edit: I'd vote for mandatory contraceptive implants for all teens and young adults until they post a bond proving they can support a child, but that option isn't acceptable to left or right: it's considered eugenics, racism, sexism, genocide, police state, taking away their "innate right" to breed, etc.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Where are the parents ? You know the ones that gave birth and are supposed to raise their own kids.

Do you really believe there are 18 year old people walking around that have no idea how women get pregnant ?

You have a child you pay for it, if you don't have the money you work. I'm sick of hearing about people that have 3 children by the age of 18 and how they are unfortunate and should be pitied. Sex has consequences and if you are not willing to live up to them then keep it in your pants .

No one is arguing any different!

What we're saying is that people make these bad choices, and we cant just sit and watch their children starve to death.

 

[Modelworks]

No one is arguing any different!

What we're saying is that people make these bad choices, and we cant just sit and watch their children starve to death.

I don't want to punish the resulting babies but the parents have to be made to understand how serious pregnancy is and be made to understand the consequences for what they do . When I see someone in their teens with a second child and people claiming it is the fault of sex ed it makes me ill.