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UNCjigga said:
If anyone doubted for a second that Team Trump/Rudy Giuliani ever solicited DNC/Clinton dirt from Russia, or that the Kremlin was involved with the current Ukraine Clown Posse—well doubt no more.

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Indicted Rudy Giuliani Fixers Got Financing From Ukraine Oligarch Linked To Vladimir Putin, 'Reuters' Reports

Indicted Rudy Giuliani Fixers Got Financing From Ukraine Oligarch Linked To Vladimir Putin, 'Reuters' Reports
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Indicted Giuliani associate worked on behalf of Ukrainian oligarch Firtash

One of the two Florida businessmen who helped U.S. President Donald Trump's personal attorney investigate his political rival, Democrat Joe Biden, also has been working for the legal team of a Ukrainian oligarch who faces bribery charges in the United States, according to...
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Indicted Giuliani associate worked on behalf of Ukrainian oligarch Firtash


One of the two Florida businessmen who helped U.S. President Donald Trump’s personal attorney investigate his political rival, Democrat Joe Biden, also has been working for the legal team of a Ukrainian oligarch who faces bribery charges in the United States, according to attorneys for the businessmen and the oligarch.

Lev Parnas, one of the two associates of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, served as a translator for lawyers representing oligarch Dmytro Firtash. Parnas was arrested on Thursday along with the other Florida businessman, Igor Fruman, on unrelated charges that included illegally funneling $325,000 to a political action committee supporting pro-Trump candidates.

Firtash, one of Ukraine’s wealthiest businessmen, is battling extradition by U.S. authorities on bribery charges from Vienna, where he has lived for five years.

Federal prosecutors in Illinois said in court papers in 2017 that Firtash was an “uppker-echelon” associate of Russian organized crime. He was indicted in 2013 and charged with bribing Indian officials for access to titanium mines. Firtash has denied any wrongdoing.

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Firtash has a direct connection to Putin as well. Must be a coincidence that he’s held in Vienna, and theose 2 goons were flying to Frankfurt and then on to Vienna (where Rudy was supposed to be one day later...)
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Yeah that's a coincidence, I am sure.:p


As soon as I heard Vienna, I thought of these 3 stooges.
Someone needs to buy the movie rights to this clusterfuck. Even before we finish the story. Who are they gonna get to play Giuliani?o_O
 
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esquared said:
Yeah that's a coincidence, I am sure.:p


As soon as I heard Vienna, I thought of these 3 stooges.
Someone needs to buy the movie rights to this clusterfuck. Even before we finish the story. Who are they gonna get to play Giuliani?o_O
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HomerJS said:
When Trump said he was interested in corruption who knew he meant committing it
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You know Trump's motto, fraud guarantee or no deal.

Actually Fraud Guarantee seems like a great name for a business. Wonder if it's taken...

Never mind, I just googled it and looks like some guy named Lev Parnas beat me to the punch.
 
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Aight, this itches a little bit.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1183198584000393216

About the arrest of Parnas and Fruman, who got picked up at the airport with one way tickets... Did Berman tip Barr?
Did Barr tip Rudy?
Did Rudy tip Parnas and Fruman so they ran like little b*'es?
If Barr's fingerprints is on this.... then he deserves some circle of Hell reserved just for him.
 
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I don't understand why Barr isn't facing more heat. There should be riots that he hasn't recused himself yet. Can't believe it's barely newsworthy that he even meets with someone so influential in investigations involving this scheme much less the time proximity of targets of the investigation attempting to skip the country thereafter.

Truthfully we are at the stage where the criminals are committing crimes out in the open because they know they have no hope of any legal defense, only a political one.
 
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I don't understand why Barr isn't facing more heat. There should be riots that he hasn't recused himself yet. Can't believe it's barely newsworthy that he even meets with someone so influential in investigations involving this scheme much less the time proximity of targets of the investigation attempting to skip the country thereafter.

Truthfully we are at the stage where the criminals are committing crimes out in the open because they know they have no hope of any legal defense, only a political one.
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Your notion that conservatives see Democrats as evil works for me. If what you are doing is right the law doesn't really matter. Every GOOD person answers to a higher moral call, right? For what it's worth, I think Trump should change his name to Toast.
 
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Moonbeam said:
Your notion that conservatives see Democrats as evil works for me. If what you are doing is right the law doesn't really matter. Every GOOD person answers to a higher moral call, right? For what it's worth, I think Trump should change his name to Toast.
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He's toast as American President. American Dictator? We shall see.
 
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[DHT]Osiris said:
She is, I presume the prepared remarks were permitted to be released, but not answers to questions/classified commentary?
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Closed-door sessions are precisely the way to move forward with the investigations. It leaves less for Fox to spin as well as the Republicans. If something against witnesses is leaked we know the Reps are responsible and that gives Dems a possible advantage.

During the impeachment itself then much would likely be released, but at least make an attempt to keep confidences for the time being. It's much safer for witnesses that way. See how nuts Trump is in trying to find out what he's not allowed to know, the whistleblower's identity? Trump needs to have that person utterly destroyed and if someone took that person out, well too bad so sad then.
 
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Hayabusa Rider said:
Closed-door sessions are precisely the way to move forward with the investigations. It leaves less for Fox to spin as well as the Republicans. If something against witnesses is leaked we know the Reps are responsible and that gives Dems a possible advantage.

During the impeachment itself then much would likely be released, but at least make an attempt to keep confidences for the time being. It's much safer for witnesses that way. See how nuts Trump is in trying to find out what he's not allowed to know, the whistleblower's identity? Trump needs to have that person utterly destroyed and if someone took that person out, well too bad so sad then.
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It's the basics of how a criminal investigation goes. Yes all the evidence gets shared in the end prior to making a case, but you don't want to give your opponents tips on what you know and what you're after until you're ready to move forward with a case. When you have Trump and team actively doing disinformation campaigns and, frankly committing obstruction with a significant history of such, keeping the evidence-gathering as private as possible is paramount.
 
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The day this broke I had read they had dinner at the White House twice. People are saying?
 
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I don't understand why Barr isn't facing more heat. There should be riots that he hasn't recused himself yet. Can't believe it's barely newsworthy that he even meets with someone so influential in investigations involving this scheme much less the time proximity of targets of the investigation attempting to skip the country thereafter.

Truthfully we are at the stage where the criminals are committing crimes out in the open because they know they have no hope of any legal defense, only a political one.
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Barr is the boss of those who would prosecute him and has used his authority without concern to the ethics of his profession. More than that he's Trump's attorney and between them have the power to crush many a legal or enforcement. In addition Barr is bright and unprincipled and knows how to lie but get away with technicalities. It seems to be best to not one's hand to someone who can survive all but the most crushing of investigations and even then I have my doubts.

In short it's a matter of timing and overwhelming evidence of criminality or unprofessional conduct beyond the pale and now is not the time.
 
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Barr is the boss of those who would prosecute him and has used his authority without concern to the ethics of his profession. More than that he's Trump's attorney and between them have the power to crush many a legal or enforcement. In addition Barr is bright and unprincipled and knows how to lie but get away with technicalities. It seems to be best to not one's hand to someone who can survive all but the most crushing of investigations and even then I have my doubts.

In short it's a matter of timing and overwhelming evidence of criminality or unprofessional conduct beyond the pale and now is not the time.
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I meant more within media and politicians. I think there is a political choice to focus on Trump, and how many impeachments can they do at one time anyway? I think it's a bad choice. Put Barr in a bind and don't let him out.
 
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K1052 said:
Rudy is going to defy the congressional subpoena. Law and order all the way down.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184205068121366530

His lawyer also withdrew and he, apparently, has no representation even though he's also seemingly under federal criminal investigation by SDNY. A bold yet moronic move.
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Rudy is one of a few for whom executive privilege doesn't apply. His relationship to Trump is outside that chain of command. He really has little recourse other than to appear or leave the Country. In his place, I wouldn't fail to show & then go to DC. Pelosi would be within her rights to order the Capitol Police to arrest him. Nobody in the DoJ would have the right to stop it.

Probably not, but I'd love to see the look on his face.
 
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Jhhnn said:
Rudy is one of a few for whom executive privilege doesn't apply. His relationship to Trump is outside that chain of command. He really has little recourse other than to appear or leave the Country. In his place, I wouldn't fail to show & then go to DC. Pelosi would be within her rights to order the Capitol Police to arrest him. Nobody in the DoJ would have the right to stop it.

Probably not, but I'd love to see the look on his face.
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At this rate the House and Justice Dept may be arguing about who gets custody...
 
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