Rant Two associates of Rudy Giuliani arrested

[kage69]

So Rudy gets paid an exorbitant fee by Russian lackeys for his famous 'advice,' and no problem. Joe Biden's son gets employment via political connection and that's the travesty ladies and gents, definitely not what Rudy, Jared, Ivanka and the meatheads themselves have been doing the last 3 years.

What a hypocritical, desperate load. Do these guys know how to do anything else?

You're going to look cute in that orange jumper Rudy. That dental work is going to be a hit, just you wait.

 

[VRAMdemon]

His lawyer apparently delivered the letter and quit.

Rudy's attorney:

"Hmmmm... My choice is to stick with Rudy and risk losing my licence at best, and going to jail at worst....OR to run away now. BYE BYE Rudy"

Please let Rudy defend himself in the upcoming trial...

 

[Zorba]

Congress needs to drop the hammer.

 

[Denly]

Rudy is going to defy the congressional subpoena. Law and order all the way down.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184205068121366530

His lawyer also withdrew and he, apparently, has no representation even though he's also seemingly under federal criminal investigation by SDNY. A bold yet moronic move.

Will he get disbar if he as a lawyer ignore a subpoena?

 

[dawp]

someone should do a parody of steely dan's 'rikki don't lose that number'

looked on youtube and searched for 'rudy don't lose that number' and nothing came up except the steely dan song

edit: started with the chorus

rudy don't lose that number
you don't wanna call donnie trump
send it off in a text to cnn
rudy don't lose that number
it's the only one to trust
you might use it if you're desperate
when you get busted

add to it if you have anything

 

[cytg111]

So Rudy gets paid an exorbitant fee by Russian lackeys for his famous 'advice,' and no problem. Joe Biden's son gets employment via political connection and that's the travesty ladies and gents, definitely not what Rudy, Jared, Ivanka and the meatheads themselves have been doing the last 3 years.

What a hypocritical, desperate load. Do these guys know how to do anything else?

You're going to look cute in that orange jumper Rudy. That dental work is going to be a hit, just you wait.

You know they are lying, they know they are lying, still, they tell it to your face, eyes locked and no sign of guilt or remorse. You know, if it wasnt politics, you'd have one of two options, 1. get the fuck out, cause psycopaths or 2. do him before he does you.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

He's toast as American President. American Dictator? We shall see.

Not so sure about this. Likely we will have a second term.

 

[thilanliyan]

Not so sure about this. Likely we will have a second term.

Yeah, I'm not too optimistic that he will be voted out. Not enough Repubs have spoken out against him.

 

[fskimospy]

It’s strange that people think not that the re-election of the most enduringly unpopular president maybe in history who lost the most recent national elections by one of the largest margins in modern times is not just possible (which makes sense) but the most likely outcome.

What’s the basis for saying the guy with 42% approval who more than 50% of voters say they will definitely not vote for is the likely winner?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It’s strange that people think not that the re-election of the most enduringly unpopular president maybe in history who lost the most recent national elections by one of the largest margins in modern times is not just possible (which makes sense) but the most likely outcome.

What’s the basis for saying the guy with 42% approval who more than 50% of voters say they will definitely not vote for is the likely winner?

Electoral College and opponents haven’t learned the new election game is to sling as much bullshit as possible.
Most D’s appear to be playing by the old rules.

 

[fskimospy]

Electoral College and opponents haven’t learned the new election game is to sling as much bullshit as possible.
Most D’s appear to be playing by the old rules.

How much advantage in terms of national popular vote percentage are you giving to the electoral college? Seems like a lot.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It’s strange that people think not that the re-election of the most enduringly unpopular president maybe in history who lost the most recent national elections by one of the largest margins in modern times is not just possible (which makes sense) but the most likely outcome.

What’s the basis for saying the guy with 42% approval who more than 50% of voters say they will definitely not vote for is the likely winner?

Trump could not win before and yet he did and so we have fear especially as interference by foreign powers is approved and even encouraged by Trump and the Republicans.

In normal times I'd dismiss Trump however the degree of depravity shown by Mitch and others gives me pause. What I am hoping is that not only will Trump go down but a significant number of influential power brokers and members of the Republican party as well.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

How much advantage in terms of national popular vote percentage are you giving to the electoral college? Seems like a lot.

Just saying polls would be more interesting if they weighted response by EC vote. For example a vote in Alaska carries 4 times the weight as my vote in Massachusetts

 

[fskimospy]

Just saying polls would be more interesting if they weighted response by EC vote. For example a vote in Alaska carries 4 times the weight as my vote in Massachusetts.

I mean if you want to do it that way you can just poll people in about the half dozen states that are up for grabs and call it a day. All I'm saying is that if his polling doesn't improve from where it is now he will lose. There's no credible third parties coming out to siphon votes away, it's just him vs. his opponent and despite an electoral college advantage you don't win with 42%. His approval rating has also shown to be exceptionally hard to move in either direction so it's going to be tough for him to accomplish that.

So could he win? Absolutely, but I don't think I would peg someone in his situation has being particularly likely.

 

[K1052]

Will he get disbar if he as a lawyer ignore a subpoena?

A lawyer would have to weigh in here but I think the answer is: maybe. His actions regarding claiming attorney-client confidentiality for things that aren't covered might be an issue for him with the bar also. I doubt his legal situation is likely to improve nor is his conduct so it's possible.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I mean if you want to do it that way you can just poll people in about the half dozen states that are up for grabs and call it a day. All I'm saying is that if his polling doesn't improve from where it is now he will lose. There's no credible third parties coming out to siphon votes away, it's just him vs. his opponent and despite an electoral college advantage you don't win with 42%.

I get it
And yes I’d agree just poll people in a few states and get right to the point.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump could not win before and yet he did and so we have fear especially as interference by foreign powers is approved and even encouraged by Trump and the Republicans.

In normal times I'd dismiss Trump however the degree of depravity shown by Mitch and others gives me pause. What I am hoping is that not only will Trump go down but a significant number of influential power brokers and members of the Republican party as well.

I'm not dismissing Trump, I'm just questioning why people think his victory is the most likely outcome.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'm not dismissing Trump, I'm just questioning why people think his victory is the most likely outcome.

For me the answer is that I believe that his strategy will be the same this time as last time, and no one has found a effective counter to it yet. His strategy is not to be the best candidate, it is to create enough conspiracy theory and insinuations of wrong doing at the other candidate that people don't feel comfortable voting for them and either vote 3rd party, or don't vote at all, then his small but fanatically loyal base ends up with a disproportionately large representation in the election.

I mean, this is what he is already doing with Joe Biden, and last nights debate shows that it is working.

 

[dawp]

I'm not dismissing Trump, I'm just questioning why people think his victory is the most likely outcome.

I tend to lean towards him not getting re-elected, not betting on it but he has never been above 50% and and I don't remember him even breaking 45%. I don't think any president has ever been re-elect with such poor polling numbers at this stage in the game.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm not dismissing Trump, I'm just questioning why people think his victory is the most likely outcome.

Because Democrats don't get out and vote, Republican voters are a sure thing to bet on. Sad, but true.

 

[fskimospy]

For me the answer is that I believe that his strategy will be the same this time as last time, and no one has found a effective counter to it yet. His strategy is not to be the best candidate, it is to create enough conspiracy theory and insinuations of wrong doing at the other candidate that people don't feel comfortable voting for them and either vote 3rd party, or don't vote at all, then his small but fanatically loyal base ends up with a disproportionately large representation in the election.

I mean, this is what he is already doing with Joe Biden, and last nights debate shows that it is working.

Yes, his strategy will be to burn down the other candidate - I mean what other strategy could he run on as he has no accomplishments? As to nobody finding an effective counter to it if that's the case then why did Trump lose so badly in 2018 and why has this strategy not yielded improved results in head to head matchups against Biden in the polls? I mean there's a lot of noise in matchups like that regardless but if anything Biden's lead has increased over Trump since the Ukraine thing broke.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Because Democrats don't get out and vote, Republican voters are a sure thing to bet on. Sad, but true.

Double so for the states that matter too.

 

[fskimospy]

Because Democrats don't get out and vote, Republican voters are a sure thing to bet on. Sad, but true.

So why wouldn't Republican victory be the most likely outcome in every presidential election?

 

[Jhhnn]

The whole dynamic is different than 2016. Trump had only to attack in 2016. Now he needs to defend the miserable record he's established.

 

[SMOGZINN]

As to nobody finding an effective counter to it if that's the case then why did Trump lose so badly in 2018

The strategy does not work well when there are lots of smaller elections like the House. He still did rather well in the Senate because the strategy does better the more focused you can be on a single target. Senate campaigns are larger elections that the press covers more aggressively allowing them to use the press' love of controversy as the weapon. House seats are smaller local elections that hardly get any press coverage.

and why has this strategy not yielded improved results in head to head matchups against Biden in the polls?

Pretty much every poll showed Clinton winning by a landslide right up to election night. Polls do not capture the effects of this strategy well, it is one of the main reasons that no one has found a competent counter to it yet. It's effect is hard to measure, so it is hard to measure the effect of any counter.