tweaktown review GTX660Ti

[tviceman]

I would have rather seen a gtx660ti with a 256-bit memory interface and 1152 cuda cores.

 

[SolMiester]

Does anyone remember the 560 Ti release price?

 

[AtenRa]

Does anyone remember the 560 Ti release price?

$249

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/

 

[RussianSensation]

$249 I believe. Later NV released GTX560 Ti 448 core at $289 and dropped the price of GTX560Ti to $229.

GTX560Ti had 4 VRMs and 2x6-pin connectors, just like the GTX670

AtenRa beat me to it!

 

[poohbear]

what a terrible review! they don't even benchmark a modern GPU dependant FPS like BF3 or a CPU/GPU dependent RTS like Shogun 2. I honestly wonder if any of these guys that review these cards play any computer games. Farcry 2?? HAWX2??? how old are those games and who even plays them anymore??

 

[Crap Daddy]

Apart from GTX680 all cards launched in this generation were/are having jacked up prices at launch compared to previous, some with as much as 170$ (7970), Coming late to this rip-off fest NV only added/adds 50$. In the meantime they make sure to sell us a mid-range chip in every possible incarnation from mid to high end. I wouldn't be surprised if they will launch another 2 cards featuring GK104.

 

[cmdrdredd]

To me the performance of a $400 card is what makes it worth $400. Not some arbitrary idea you may have about what it "should" be worth or anything like that.

Using that measurement, the GTX 660ti is overpriced.

 

[toyota]

Does anyone remember the 560 Ti release price?

$249 and it took less time to find that then to ask. lol

 

[Rvenger]

It will fly off the shelves at $299 regardless and the crickets will be chirping on the 7870.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It will fly off the shelves at $299 regardless and the crickets will be chirping on the 7870.

Of course, especially when 7950 is approaching the $300 mark.

 

[RussianSensation]

It will fly off the shelves at $299 regardless and the crickets will be chirping on the 7870.

Well HD7870 is really much cheaper than $300. Some people will only buy NV no matter what. I remember when GTX550Ti came out, it was overpriced from day 1 and I followed its pricing vs. AMD cards throughout its life. It never became a good card, always slower than HD6850 and consuming more power. Despite worse performance, power consumption and not any better price, last holiday season, it was the best selling GPU on Amazon.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well HD7870 is really much cheaper than $300. Some people will only buy NV no matter what. I remember when GTX550Ti came out, it was overpriced from day 1 and I followed its pricing vs. AMD cards throughout its life. It never became a good card, always slower than HD6850 and consuming more power. Despite worse performance, power consumption and not any better price, last holiday season, it was the best selling GPU on Amazon.

You know...cause AMD CPUs suck so AMD GPUs? No way...or "it won't do physx!" or the ever popular "AMD drivers suck!!"

heh...I wouldn't tell people to buy this 660ti at $300, maybe at $240-250

 

[blackened23]

I love how all the games tested are physx TWIMTBP games, ROFL.

-Using 4 year old games
-All games tested are heavily nvidia slanted so are meaningless for good comparisons vs AMD stuff (physx, TWIMTPB).
-- Not only that but these games are from years ago
-Using Catalyst 12.4. Really?
-Using nvidia driver 301.11. Really?
-Using Heaven 2.5 instead of Heaven 3.0 which has been out forever. Really?
-Doesn't test overclocking
-Where's MP3? Skyrim? BF3?

I hate tweaktown. Every review I see there is completely and utterly worthless.

 

[SirPauly]

One may debate the strengths and weaknesses but the key is it is good to see more 28nm choice over-all.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I love how all the games tested are physx TWIMTBP games, ROFL.

-Using 4 year old games
-All games tested are heavily nvidia slanted so are meaningless for good comparisons vs AMD stuff (physx, TWIMTPB).
-- Not only that but these games are from years ago
-Using Catalyst 12.4. Really?
-Using nvidia driver 301.11. Really?
-Using Heaven 2.5 instead of Heaven 3.0 which has been out forever. Really?
-Doesn't test overclocking
-Where's MP3? Skyrim? BF3?

I hate tweaktown. Every review I see there is completely and utterly worthless.

Dirt 3 for example is AMD Evolved.
http://blogs.amd.com/play/category/gaming/games/dirt3/

 

[f1sherman]

I love how all the games tested are physx TWIMTBP games, ROFL.

-Using 4 year old games
-All games tested are heavily nvidia slanted so are meaningless for good comparisons vs AMD stuff (physx, TWIMTPB).
-- Not only that but these games are from years ago
-Using Catalyst 12.4. Really?
-Using nvidia driver 301.11. Really?
-Using Heaven 2.5 instead of Heaven 3.0 which has been out forever. Really?
-Doesn't test overclocking
-Where's MP3? Skyrim? BF3?

I hate tweaktown. Every review I see there is completely and utterly worthless.

Dirt 3 and Alien vs Predator are AMD Gaming Evolved titles.
Metro 2033 is anything but nvidia slanted.

It's the TT, it's been like that for ages.

If sub 300, this card will burry AMD discrete single handedly.
See you all Q3 if you don't believe me.

 

[cmdrdredd]

just FYI: 7970 stock beats MSI GTX 680 Lightning in Metro 2033. Not so much Nvidia leaning really...

 

[3DVagabond]

Dirt 3 and Alien vs Predator are AMD Gaming Evolved titles.
Metro 2033 is anything but nvidia slanted.

It's the TT, it's been like that for ages.

If sub 300, this card will burry AMD discrete single handedly.
See you all Q3 if you don't believe me.

This isn't the financials section. There might be one or two who have stock, but all the rest of us care about is performance and price. The interesting part is dissecting the performance 100 different ways to decide what's best for our individual needs.

If this card can't run AA, and we'll have to wait for more reviews to be sure, then it sucks at anything near $300.

 

[ocre]

and i am starting to think that on a real etailler (newegg) the gtx660 will be less than $299.

As far as RussainS is preaching, the 7950 should be a better card for the enthusiast overclockers. But what are we debating here? Is the 660ti gonna be a great success for nvidia, or are we debating which card is better for RussianSensation? Cause we already see he has already decided he wasnt getting this card, he already bought into the 79XX series.

We all know how well they 79XX series overclock. Why keep on repeating this???????

As for the performance dropping off when AA comes to play. Do people really not see that nothing much changed. 660ti vs the 7950 the results were what you would expect. same games that the 660 did poor against the 7950 without AA it did poor with AA. This is a cheaper card that beats the 7950 in a lot of cases. And it cost less. What are some of you people on? Its cheaper and faster in some cases. Y would expect that the 7950 could win at least some of the test, if it were to remain any relevancy at all, it better win some..... by god

 

[Grooveriding]

Not seeing that at all, at $300 this card is a stinker with the 7950 going for $300.

The 7950 is a faster card all round. Never mind if this card's AA performance seen here remains consistent in other reviews it's going to get the thumbs down as a $300 card that tanks running anti-aliasing. I mean really now, anti-aliasing is at the point where it is a necessity. Even casual gamer/non-enthusiasts use the feature and want it. Games are jagged and covered in crawlies without it.

I thought it was a $200 or $250 card, $300.....

When is this card out, this Thursday or next Tuesday I would guess ?

 

[cmdrdredd]

This isn't the financials section. There might be one or two who have stock, but all the rest of us care about is performance and price. The interesting part is dissecting the performance 100 different ways to decide what's best for our individual needs.

If this card can't run AA, and we'll have to wait for more reviews to be sure, then it sucks at anything near $300.

Exactly right. AA might not be necessary in every situation at 2560x1440 or 2560x1600, but this card is really not made for that resolution.

ocre it's repeated because it needs to be repeated sometimes. Also, how exactly does the 660ti beat 7950 in anything performance wise that is relevant to today's games? It really doesn't. Synthetic benchmarks and games nobody plays aren't telling the story.

 

[RaistlinZ]

This card is fairly priced for its performance. The cheapest 7950 is $320, only after rebate. This card trades blows with it and wins half the time, and costs $20.00 less even at MSRP. It's not like NVidia was going to leave a $150.00 gap between the 670 and 660, come on.

 

[Smartazz]

What a terrible list of games. I'm pretty sure people want to see Battlefield 3 results. I want to see overclocking results to see how this compares to the 7950. The 7950 is an absolute monster once overclocked and it'll probably be hard for the GTX 660 to compete with its 192bit memory bus.

 

[f1sherman]

I would have rather seen a gtx660ti with a 256-bit memory interface and 1152 cuda cores.

Such card should OC at least as good as 670/680, and being much less BW constrained would be a no-brainer for almost everyone.

They had to differentiate it vs 670, so cutting bandwidth was the optimal solution.

 

[SirPauly]

Just desire strong competition because without it -- AMD and nVidia are the same - predators and aggressors.