Turtle Taking Credit for Economic Recovery

fskimospy

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Anyone else impressed by how quickly it went from "good economic news is an evil liberal lie" to "good economic news is true and conservatives are responsible"?

It is easy to think that nobody could be stupid enough or so easily duped as to actually believe what McConnell is saying, but my guess is that we will hear it again from conservatives in the near future. Down the memory hole!
 

thraashman

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If you're dumb enough to vote for a Republican, you're dumb enough to believe the bullshit lies they tell you.
 

kage69

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Wow. These guys really do live in an alternate reality.

Show me a person who believes the turtle and I'll show you a hopeless idiot.
 

thraashman

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Wow. These guys really do live in an alternate reality.

Show me a person who believes the turtle and I'll show you a hopeless idiot.

I expect compuwiz or boomerang in here shortly to accommodate you on that.
 

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Anyone else impressed by how quickly it went from "good economic news is an evil liberal lie" to "good economic news is true and conservatives are responsible"?

It is easy to think that nobody could be stupid enough or so easily duped as to actually believe what McConnell is saying, but my guess is that we will hear it again from conservatives in the near future. Down the memory hole!

Never underestimate the mental hoops someone will jump through to believe what they want to believe.
 

Jaskalas

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If the parties involved were reversed...

Politicians are always lying.
 

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So, they spend the past few years doing not much of anything, other than preventing/blocking attempts to better this country - while we've been improving nonetheless (imagine how much better we would be if the Republicans actually did something for Americans) - and now they are taking credit for improvements they had not much to do with.

This is certainly shocking behavior, but, expected.

Think about all the other arguments that come from a conservative's mouth. They aren't even spinning things, they are flat out distorting and manipulating.

This behavior is no different than any other message and/or action from conservatives, like;
  • Rape: it doesn't exist - well, of course it does, but they have been distorting and manipulating things up and down the entire country. Everything from forcing people to wait to being told abortions are illegal - as well as making them difficult to obtain. They have even claimed that pro-Choice people are throwing feces at government officials!!
  • Big Government: The government part of big government is the problem - not big. Since government is designed for equality and representation. What they do want instead are big entities ruling over people, and allowing only a selected few to have a say in how things are done. Think about it; a government dare NOT suggest a s'mores recipe, but they can decide what you do with your body. Ideals like that does not mean they want smaller government, it just means they want to be in control.
  • Privacy & Freedom: everyone is allowed to live their lives as they see fit, unless they live it in a manner they do not agree with - like homosexuality, what to do with their own body, etc. They cry about how privacy & freedom is oppressed, but, they are the one who are actually being oppressive. They feel, they are being oppressed, for not being allowed to oppress/control others.
  • Wasteful Spending: if it isn't making a select few a shit load of money, it's wasteful. If they could charge $100 for one school sandwich (which $99 of that goes to an already rich person), conservatives would be all for school lunches. Instead, since they aren't making any one of their friends even more wealthy, they deem it a waste.
  • Racism: it doesn't exist, it is just a bunch of people who are over reacting to the truth. You know, realists being realist.

This is the behavior of someone who fears and is afraid of humanity. Their brains view others, not like themselves, as threats and they distort / manipulate facts to harm, punish and even kill others who are not like themselves.

It's defective thinking and behavior, through and through.
 
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I guess I missed that part where he directly attributed the good economic news to the recent Republican takeover of Congress. Reading comprehension is hard. You guys are too funny.
 

dank69

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I guess I missed that part where he directly attributed the good economic news to the recent Republican takeover of Congress. Reading comprehension is hard. You guys are too funny.

"After so many years of sluggish growth, we're finally seeing some economic data that can provide a glimmer of hope," said McConnell. "The uptick appears to coincide with the biggest political change of the Obama administration's long tenure in Washington: the expectation of a new Republican Congress."
 

fskimospy

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I guess I missed that part where he directly attributed the good economic news to the recent Republican takeover of Congress. Reading comprehension is hard. You guys are too funny.

After so many years of sluggish growth, we're finally seeing some economic data that can provide a glimmer of hope," said McConnell. "The uptick appears to coincide with the biggest political change of the Obama administration's long tenure in Washington: the expectation of a new Republican Congress.

You may not want to talk shit about other people's reading comprehension when you're unable to parse that paragraph. Again, physician, heal thyself.

Please don't do another one of these dances. There is no other plausible interpretation of what he said.
 
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You may not want to talk shit about other people's reading comprehension when you're unable to parse that paragraph. Again, physician, heal thyself.

Please don't do another one of these dances. There is no other plausible interpretation of what he said.
He was clearly speculating and noting a coincidence...he never stated that the recovery was due to the Republicans taking control of Congress as stated by the OP.
 

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fskimospy

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He was clearly speculating and noting a coincidence...he never stated that the recovery was due to the Republicans taking control of Congress as stated by the OP.

Yes, clearly he is just noticing a happy coincidence that he is in no way attributing to Republicans taking the Senate.

It's odd that there are so many other coincidences that have happened since that time that he neglected to mention in his speech. Do you think it was just lack of time? Was he out of note cards?

Seriously, nobody is this dense. The implication is completely obvious to anyone not actively trying to deny it. He was trying to take credit. End of story.
 

realibrad

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He was clearly speculating and noting a coincidence...he never stated that the recovery was due to the Republicans taking control of Congress as stated by the OP.

Speculating - form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

The theory he is putting forth is that the economy is improving because the Republicans took over. I would say that its not even conjecture, because that would require some data to back the claim. Having data that the economy is improving is not the same as data showing why. He is making a claim as to why its improving and that currently cannot be done factually.

So, he is wrong.
 

HomerJS

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In other Breaking News Republicans in the House and Senate are responsible for the killings in France.
 

thraashman

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In other Breaking News Republicans in the House and Senate are responsible for the killings in France.

The likeliness of this is higher than the likeliness of the Republicans having anything to do with any economic improvement.
 

Moonbeam

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Never underestimate the mental hoops someone will jump through to believe what they want to believe.

There may be something you don't understand. Conservatives do not have brain defects because they want to have them. These types were threatened as children with the fear that if they didn't conform they would be abandoned to die. They have Stockholm Syndrome and had to have it to survive. They lie to themselves because it was the only way to survive authoritarian parents. They adopted the pattern of repression of feelings and put on false egos, and to take them off now would expose them to the truth of what they feel, the very contempt they project on others who are different. While they appear to be brain dead and lemmings easily manipulated, they can't help it. They don't remember what happened to them and they don't want to remember either.

Liberals aren't much different except that they sympathized with the victim. They experienced a different and less authoritarian kind of manipulation.
 
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Yes, clearly he is just noticing a happy coincidence that he is in no way attributing to Republicans taking the Senate.

It's odd that there are so many other coincidences that have happened since that time that he neglected to mention in his speech. Do you think it was just lack of time? Was he out of note cards?

Seriously, nobody is this dense. The implication is completely obvious to anyone not actively trying to deny it. He was trying to take credit. End of story.
Politicians imply things all the time to their political advantage...this administration has done it many times but I never hear the Left give one shit about it. Anyway, my point is that he never stated that the recovery was due to the Republicans taking control of Congress....he was obviously speculating that it may have been a factor and most likely hoping it was. The Left is being both hypercritical and hypocritical imo by holding McConnel and Republicans to a much higher standard than themselves regarding rhetorical nuances such as this. However when the shoe is on the other foot, the Left goes ape shit when conservatives bust Obama's chops regarding such statements as "If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." Go figure.
 
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dank69

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Politicians imply things all the time to their political advantage...this administration has done it many times but I never hear the Left give one shit about it. Anyway, my point is that he never stated that the recovery was due to the Republicans taking control of Congress....he was obviously speculating that it may have been a factor and most likely hoping it was. The Left is being both hypercritical and hypocritical imo by holding McConnel and Republicans to a much higher standard regarding rhetorical nuances such as this. However when the shoe is on the other foot, the Left goes ape shit when conservatives bust Obama's chops regarding such statements as "If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."
Speculating about unclear things for political advantage is one thing. Speculating about unicorns and fairies is another.
 

trenchfoot

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So this is how its going to be for the next two years? A quantum shift in the frick'in CBD induced bipolar mindset of the Repubs up on the hill now that they can be held accountable for all of the obstruction and shenanigans they've been bogging down the gov't with since Obama took office?

Damn this is going to be fun watching the Repubs flipping the light switch up and down and up and down depending on whether they want to take credit for something that's happened over the last six years or blame Obama for it.

I am utterly sympathetic toward our resident conservatives for having to defend their leaders' persistent schizoid acts of desperation and extend my sincere condolences and heartfelt admiration to them for exhibiting the loyalty and deep respect their party deserves.