theeedude
Lifer
- Feb 5, 2006
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It's getting gentrified. Urban areas used to be shitholes too until young affluent liberals moved in.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Texas doesn't count, as Texas is not going to decide the 2020 election. Dare you to claim otherwise.
I mean, I'll be the first to say "I hope so", but a play by play of every little podunk local election means little to me. I don't watch cable news much. I follow the headlines and read or skim over articles that seem interesting, but Texas was turning blue today? Never. By 2030? Maybe... again, I'd hope so. Drama of "will it" or "won't it" isn't my cup of tea.
People... I hate?
Me?
Really? You have an interesting take, but have you met the reality of the situation? Example:
*Caveat
I want to give all Americans a better life. That requires the political power to do it. It requires defeating the Republican Party, as they are the opposition to good governance and public support. All Americans includes them. Be it Basic Income, Federal Home Loan, Medicare for All. I am there for them too. But they want the political power to stop that. So they can poison our water, our land, and our air. So they can have Wall Street corrupt our economy and turn Capitalism into Cronyism. If they want to fight for such things, then we must fight back. No matter the cost or the amount of force required. They cannot be allowed to harm us any further.
There was no hatred expressed in the post you quoted. And, in truth, it's only been recently that progressives have been returning some of the vitriol we've received for literally decades. The GOP has made it all about truthiness, about feeling it with your gut, for a very long time. They're convinced that they're being attacked & must fight back. Except there's nobody to fight, other than people trying to reason with them.
K1052
Elite Member
- Aug 21, 2003
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The Texas House of Representatives is trending towards the Democrats slowly but surely as the state's population rises and demos change. The tendrils of fear the GOP here feels about the rapidly growing cities is palpable.
trenchfoot
Lifer
- Aug 5, 2000
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Speaking truth to power always had/will have a liberal bias to it just as facts and truths seems to be kryptonite to conservatives in this day and age of Trump.
Vic
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- Jun 12, 2001
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All those poor oppressed people fleeing California with fat escrow checks in their pockets..
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Actually it's NOT headline news, if fact i doubt if anyone even heard about the result of the election except for die hard political types. It would only have been headline news if Republicans had lost.
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Because i'd rather get it from a right biased service instead of a left biased service? Was there anything in the article itself you had a problem with ? Inaccurate? Anything?Why do people get their news from obviously biased news organizations
Western Journal - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poormediabiasfactcheck.com
- Jul 9, 2009
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Texas always counts.Texas doesn't count, as Texas is not going to decide the 2020 election. Dare you to claim otherwise.
I mean, I'll be the first to say "I hope so", but a play by play of every little podunk local election means little to me. I don't watch cable news much. I follow the headlines and read or skim over articles that seem interesting, but Texas was turning blue today? Never. By 2030? Maybe... again, I'd hope so. Drama of "will it" or "won't it" isn't my cup of tea.
People... I hate?
Me?
Really? You have an interesting take, but have you met the reality of the situation? Example:
*Caveat
I want to give all Americans a better life. That requires the political power to do it. It requires defeating the Republican Party, as they are the opposition to good governance and public support. All Americans includes them. Be it Basic Income, Federal Home Loan, Medicare for All. I am there for them too. But they want the political power to stop that. So they can poison our water, our land, and our air. So they can have Wall Street corrupt our economy and turn Capitalism into Cronyism. If they want to fight for such things, then we must fight back. No matter the cost or the amount of force required. They cannot be allowed to harm us any further.
Did you miss a few things that you want to give? Everyone else's money? Everyone else's Constitutional Rights? Free overpriced college debts? Free health care for illegal immigrants? All supported by most the Democrats running, unlike your list of bullshit that no Republican supports.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
- Jul 13, 2005
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Texas will never decide an election! I heard there are only 2 things in Texas -- Steers and Queers....hahhaaaaa
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JEDIYoda
Lifer
- Jul 13, 2005
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Notice I stated that is what I heard...I can`t support that with any links! I do know it was a line froma movie! But that is the type of stuff Happy Medium does! He says he heard but can`t back it up with a link or facts!
Peace! At least you have a link!!
Vic
Elite Member
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Every Republican supports that shit you deny. That's why they voted for Trump. So they could change the tax laws and steal blue state money, and award themselves corrupt govt contracts. So they could squash on the Constitutional rights of women and minorities, and establish a state religion. So they could fatten their pensions and portfolios by denying their children and grandchildren the benefits of public education that they received. So they can be intentionally cruel to people in need by slapping a label on them and declaring them subhuman. And yes, so they could profit off poisoning the environment, which is just another way of stealing (as the taxpayers always end up paying to clean the mess).
Like I said, every Republican supports that shit. That's why they voted for Trump, who openly and consists touts all of that, including bullshit like renewable energy causes cancer.
Anyway, this discussion is silly, as all of your dishonest straw liberal discussions are. I'm sure many people are hoping for it, but no one genuinely expects Texas to be a swing state this year.
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JEDIYoda
Lifer
- Jul 13, 2005
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You really don`t know what you are talking about! What Trump done for you? NOTHING!!
All you spout are Republican talking points that are used to bamboozle the american public into believe that the DEM`s are the party of everything being free!
Also who is wrong about giving medical care to somebody who needs it?
You do know that the statistic say otherwise when it comes to your claims about free medical care!
But I would expect nothing more from a koolaid drinking Republican!!
spacejamz
Lifer
- Mar 31, 2003
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What I don't understand is if Texas is such a shithole, why is it the #1 destination for people leaving California? Out of all the other states they could relocate to, they pick on the one that liberals can't stand the most...how ironic is that?
They flock to a state that has enacted policies that make it inviting for them to come here and are going to want to change these policies to mirror the reasons they left...
They flock to a state that has enacted policies that make it inviting for them to come here and are going to want to change these policies to mirror the reasons they left...
Vic
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The reason is that politics actually has very little to do with these moves. As in, politics is rarely the reason they left.
spacejamz
Lifer
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You don't think the policies that result from the politics have anything to do with the moves? TX is much more tax friendly state than CA and I am pretty sure that is one of the main reasons they are coming here...Having no state income tax here has to be a huge incentive...Corporate tax is another example (then again, it probably isn't too difficult for another state to more corporate tax friendly than CA)....
And that still doesn't answer the question of why are they coming (actually still coming) to TX when there are 48 other states liberals hate less they could move to??
theeedude
Lifer
- Feb 5, 2006
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It's about the cost of living overall, not just the taxes. If houses in California cost same as Texas, most people would not move just to save 10% state tax, since it's easy to make up 10% with higher pay in California. There are of course exceptions where you expecting huge one time capital gains from sale of startup or if you are living off capital gains and no longer taking advantage of the labor market, when there is a more clear incentive to move for tax reasons. But generally if you look at pay differential between Texas and California, it easily covers taxes. But what it doesn't cover is the insanely high cost of housing.
Vic
Elite Member
- Jun 12, 2001
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It's difficult to take seriously someone who thinks that liberals are all the same and they all hate Texas. Or that everyone from California is a liberal. Overgeneralize much?
Fenixgoon
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2003
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at least for Austin, it is young, vibrant, a tech hub, has nice weather, and it's very liberal
Commodus
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If you think Californians are moving to Texas because they've suddenly 'seen the light' of conservatism, you have another thing coming.
They're moving because the cost of renting/buying is much lower, and many of the tech companies they worked for in California have major presences in Texas, particularly in Austin. The $3,000 per month you spent on a tiny one-bedroom in San Francisco could get you a spacious two-bedroom in the best parts of Austin, with a few hundred dollars per month to spare. And this has nothing to do with low taxes or regulation -- it's just that Austin is comparatively underdeveloped and has lots of space that makes it easy to build a new high-rise or condo development.
The tricky bit is that left-leaning Californians need to move to key districts if they're going to skew the vote. If they all pile into Democrat-friendly areas like Austin and certain parts of Dallas, things don't change much. They need to invade the districts that have leaned Republican in the past, even if it's just different parts of major cities.
I suspect that could take a long time. But Republicans definitely have to watch out, because if they lose Texas, they lose everything.
They're moving because the cost of renting/buying is much lower, and many of the tech companies they worked for in California have major presences in Texas, particularly in Austin. The $3,000 per month you spent on a tiny one-bedroom in San Francisco could get you a spacious two-bedroom in the best parts of Austin, with a few hundred dollars per month to spare. And this has nothing to do with low taxes or regulation -- it's just that Austin is comparatively underdeveloped and has lots of space that makes it easy to build a new high-rise or condo development.
The tricky bit is that left-leaning Californians need to move to key districts if they're going to skew the vote. If they all pile into Democrat-friendly areas like Austin and certain parts of Dallas, things don't change much. They need to invade the districts that have leaned Republican in the past, even if it's just different parts of major cities.
I suspect that could take a long time. But Republicans definitely have to watch out, because if they lose Texas, they lose everything.
- Mar 20, 2000
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there'll be just about 0 illegal immigrants anymore, that's why it was a shitty right wing question.
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