Tundra pickup spearheads Toyota's ad push for '04

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: faZZter
Titan is significantly larger than the Toyota Tundra, which is not quite full-size. Park the Titan next to last year's F-150 and the Ford looks dowdy and diminutive by comparison.

they (finally) added a second wheelbase to the tundra for the double cab. i guess without it there wouldn't have been any usable bed at all (sorta like the H2 with the bed in the back, looking at it i'm sure you couldn't fit a single dirt bike back there)

ford offers a longer wheelbase than what they use for the supercrew, so if the chevy 1500 crew cab takes off i expect they'll offer a crew cab in that wheelbase as well.

is it just me or does 'iForce' sound geeky? some evil apple-starwars crossover

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: faZZter
Here is what is in a typical review of the Titan on the net.....

America's best full-size pickup?

That's the task Nissan has set for itself with what it terms the first truly full-size pickup from a company other than Ford, Dodge, or General Motors. Titan is significantly larger than the Toyota Tundra, which is not quite full-size. Park the Titan next to last year's F-150 and the Ford looks dowdy and diminutive by comparison.
Nissan has done its research, benchmarking favored pickups and edging the bar higher for its Titan. The Titan boasts best in class headroom; best in class torque; best in class interior volume (for the Crew Cab); best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150.

The Titan features a terrific drivetrain with a 5.6-liter V8 and five-speed automatic that deliver dazzling response. Its handling is equally responsive, making it among the most enjoyable of the full-size half-ton pickups. Brakes, suspension, drivetrain all feel refined. This is a serious pickup that pleases all the senses.

Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system. A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. The rear doors on the King Cab open nearly 180 degrees for quick access.

The Titan was designed in California. It's built at Nissan's new plant at Canton, Mississippi, and its new V8 is built at Nissan's Decherd, Tennessee, production facility.

From this review

Oh wait, here is another shootout the Titan wins.....Tundra came in 4th place!

4 door truck shootout

In fact they say "If you line up the Double Cab with regular and extended-cab Tundras, you?ll notice the four-door has a ?big face.? The cab is taller. There?s more metal over the wheel openings. Yet it still looks small compared with other full-sizers. "

It STILL looks smaller than the others....how does a bigger truck look smaller?!?!? Hmmmmm

Basically the Titan in it's first year out on the market kicked the Tundra's azz, and apparently so did Ford and Dodge.

Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year......coincidence?

Four wheeler


Here is another Tundra review saying it is smaller than the other "full size" pickups....

"Though classified as full-size, the Tundra models are not as big as the Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Dodge Ram, Chevrolet Silverado, and GMC Sierra models. "

Sorry but the Nissan Titan ownz Toyota Tundra

"best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150."
Why the f would I need that to go to work in, and why would I buy 200 of them for my employees to go to work in? Do they need to offroad through the woods to get to work? LoL, and what is their reliability rating on the tranny and engine? Gas mileage?

"There?s more metal over the wheel openings"
Why do you need metal over the openings, so it looks pretty?

"A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. "
Wouldn't most people who own trucks have a toolbox in the truck? Oh no, where do I put this circular saw? It's called the backseat floor, we don't need an extra compartment in a 7K more truck.

"Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system."
Most work trucks come with a sturdy plastic bedliner (standard I believe) and tie down accessories in the Toyota.

"Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year"
Wow, about .00015% of the general population offroads: Cletus, and his redneck friend Enus.
Nissan, you missed your target market again, congratulations. The rednecks won't even buy it b/c it's Japanese, so who does that leave as your consumer market??? It's the equivalent of someone buying an ATI 9800 Pro to run Microsoft Word, lol.

In summary, Toyota pwnz Nissan in the truck industry b/c it gives the everyday Joe what they NEED: reliability, decent power/torque, no frills, rugged trucks that stand the test of time and give you the best bang for your buck.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: faZZter
Here is what is in a typical review of the Titan on the net.....

America's best full-size pickup?

That's the task Nissan has set for itself with what it terms the first truly full-size pickup from a company other than Ford, Dodge, or General Motors. Titan is significantly larger than the Toyota Tundra, which is not quite full-size. Park the Titan next to last year's F-150 and the Ford looks dowdy and diminutive by comparison.
Nissan has done its research, benchmarking favored pickups and edging the bar higher for its Titan. The Titan boasts best in class headroom; best in class torque; best in class interior volume (for the Crew Cab); best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150.

The Titan features a terrific drivetrain with a 5.6-liter V8 and five-speed automatic that deliver dazzling response. Its handling is equally responsive, making it among the most enjoyable of the full-size half-ton pickups. Brakes, suspension, drivetrain all feel refined. This is a serious pickup that pleases all the senses.

Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system. A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. The rear doors on the King Cab open nearly 180 degrees for quick access.

The Titan was designed in California. It's built at Nissan's new plant at Canton, Mississippi, and its new V8 is built at Nissan's Decherd, Tennessee, production facility.

From this review

Oh wait, here is another shootout the Titan wins.....Tundra came in 4th place!

4 door truck shootout

In fact they say "If you line up the Double Cab with regular and extended-cab Tundras, you?ll notice the four-door has a ?big face.? The cab is taller. There?s more metal over the wheel openings. Yet it still looks small compared with other full-sizers. "

It STILL looks smaller than the others....how does a bigger truck look smaller?!?!? Hmmmmm

Basically the Titan in it's first year out on the market kicked the Tundra's azz, and apparently so did Ford and Dodge.

Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year......coincidence?

Four wheeler


Here is another Tundra review saying it is smaller than the other "full size" pickups....

"Though classified as full-size, the Tundra models are not as big as the Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Dodge Ram, Chevrolet Silverado, and GMC Sierra models. "

Sorry but the Nissan Titan ownz Toyota Tundra

"best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150."
Why the f would I need that to go to work in, and why would I buy 200 of them for my employees to go to work in? Do they need to offroad through the woods to get to work? LoL, and what is their reliability rating on the tranny and engine? Gas mileage?

"There?s more metal over the wheel openings"
Why do you need metal over the openings, so it looks pretty?

"A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. "
Wouldn't most people who own trucks have a toolbox in the truck? Oh no, where do I put this circular saw? It's called the backseat floor, we don't need an extra compartment in a 7K more truck.

"Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system."
Most work trucks come with a sturdy plastic bedliner (standard I believe) and tie down accessories in the Toyota.

"Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year"
Wow, about .00015% of the general population offroads: Cletus, and his redneck friend Enus.
Nissan, you missed your target market again, congratulations. The rednecks won't even buy it b/c it's Japanese, so who does that leave as your consumer market??? It's the equivalent of someone buying an ATI 9800 Pro to run Microsoft Word, lol.

In summary, Toyota pwnz Nissan in the truck industry b/c it gives the everyday Joe what they NEED: reliability, decent power/torque, no frills, rugged trucks that stand the test of time and give you the best bang for your buck.

From the C&D review on the Tundra. One of the reasons why they docked the Tundra was b/c it wasn't "bold" enough. Who gives a f*&k? It's a truck!! In fact, other than that...I don't see where they really disliked the Tundra:

There was no unanimity on this one, except for a low ?gotta have it? factor. None of us would belly-crawl through broken glass and burning gasoline to own this truck. Yet it drives like a well-oiled machine. It?s wonderfully agile. And it fits people so well, with top-notch ratings for ergonomics and comfort, especially for back-seaters, where its friendly shape and genuinely plush surroundings say limousine. But these admirable virtues don?t make for that insatiable longing in the gut.

Somehow, the Tundra is too much like kissing your sister.

If you line up the Double Cab with regular and extended-cab Tundras, you?ll notice the four-door has a ?big face.? The cab is taller. There?s more metal over the wheel openings. Yet it still looks small compared with other full-sizers. The taller roofline remains closer to the floor than in the others, meaning less cab space if you?re hauling loose Wheat Chex or anything that fits in all the crannies. This contradicts the impression of occupants; they find it roomy in exactly the right places.

Along with the low roof, the Double Cab also has a low beltline, so the view out is better for maneuverability.

Surprisingly, considering its compact appearance, the bed length, at 74.3 inches, was longer than all but the Ram?s.

Don?t make too much of the fourth-place finish?second, third, and fourth were each separated by just a point. In addition to top marks in people friendliness, the Tundra earned top scores for ride and handling, fit and finish, and value. In acceleration, it?s nip and tuck with the Chevy and outruns the heavy Ford. The engine makes a much more disciplined sound than those two, and the transmission is smarter about shift points. Skidpad grip and stopping distances were better than average.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: NFS4

From the C&D review on the Tundra. One of the reasons why they docked the Tundra was b/c it wasn't "bold" enough. Who gives a f*&k? It's a truck!! In fact, other than that...I don't see where they really disliked the Tundra:

There was no unanimity on this one, except for a low ?gotta have it? factor. None of us would belly-crawl through broken glass and burning gasoline to own this truck. Yet it drives like a well-oiled machine. It?s wonderfully agile. And it fits people so well, with top-notch ratings for ergonomics and comfort, especially for back-seaters, where its friendly shape and genuinely plush surroundings say limousine. But these admirable virtues don?t make for that insatiable longing in the gut.

Somehow, the Tundra is too much like kissing your sister.

If you line up the Double Cab with regular and extended-cab Tundras, you?ll notice the four-door has a ?big face.? The cab is taller. There?s more metal over the wheel openings. Yet it still looks small compared with other full-sizers. The taller roofline remains closer to the floor than in the others, meaning less cab space if you?re hauling loose Wheat Chex or anything that fits in all the crannies. This contradicts the impression of occupants; they find it roomy in exactly the right places.

Along with the low roof, the Double Cab also has a low beltline, so the view out is better for maneuverability.

Surprisingly, considering its compact appearance, the bed length, at 74.3 inches, was longer than all but the Ram?s.

Don?t make too much of the fourth-place finish?second, third, and fourth were each separated by just a point. In addition to top marks in people friendliness, the Tundra earned top scores for ride and handling, fit and finish, and value. In acceleration, it?s nip and tuck with the Chevy and outruns the heavy Ford. The engine makes a much more disciplined sound than those two, and the transmission is smarter about shift points. Skidpad grip and stopping distances were better than average.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

NFS4, people will hate on you when you're the best, it's a given.

 

[JDub02]

Originally posted by: dartworth
My Ram > any jap truck

 

[faZZter]

Sorry but the Nissan Titan ownz Toyota Tundra[/quote]
"best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150."
Why the f would I need that to go to work in, and why would I buy 200 of them for my employees to go to work in? Do they need to offroad through the woods to get to work? LoL, and what is their reliability rating on the tranny and engine? Gas mileage?

Who said it was to be a work truck? Did I say that? No I didn't. That is something you assumed I guess....Gas mileage is on par with the other half ton trucks.

"?Nissan has hit a home run with the Titan,? said Four Wheeler Features Editor Craig Perronne. ?It is hard to find fault with the Titan as it has gobs of power, handles well, rides nicely and does well off in the dirt.?

"There?s more metal over the wheel openings"
Why do you need metal over the openings, so it looks pretty?

This is in reference to the Tundra.....not the Titan......Do I have to explain everything? I guess the Tundra needs to look pretty according to you.....

"A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. "
Wouldn't most people who own trucks have a toolbox in the truck? Oh no, where do I put this circular saw? It's called the backseat floor, we don't need an extra compartment in a 7K more truck.

Sure, if it is a work truck you may have a toolbox.....but for those of us that don't need to carry around a toolbox full of tools it is a convenient addition.

"Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system."
Most work trucks come with a sturdy plastic bedliner (standard I believe) and tie down accessories in the Toyota.

C channel system is more versatile. Spray in liners are better than those plastic inserts IMO, besides, once again, who said it is a work truck? Mine isn't used exclusively for business.

"Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year"
Wow, about .00015% of the general population offroads: Cletus, and his redneck friend Enus.
Nissan, you missed your target market again, congratulations. The rednecks won't even buy it b/c it's Japanese, so who does that leave as your consumer market??? It's the equivalent of someone buying an ATI 9800 Pro to run Microsoft Word, lol.

Hmmm, yeah so? I go offroad at the beach to take my bikes and stuff down there....4x4 is a very good thing to have there. Besides if you read the full article of the shootout you would see that the Titan was the winner ON THE FREEWAY driving section also.

In summary, Toyota pwnz Nissan in the truck industry b/c it gives the everyday Joe what they NEED: reliability, decent power/torque, no frills, rugged trucks that stand the test of time and give you the best bang for your buck.[/quote]

Oh BS. The Tundra I looked at getting was just as expensive as the Titans. Titan has better power, looks (subjective), and performance. I have had 4 different Nissan trucks over the years, and they have all been extremely reliable. Two of them I used to abuse offroad also, and they held up.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying the Tundras suck. They are nice trucks. I would probably buy one before I bought a Chevy or Ford/Dodge unless I needed more tow capacity. Still, I say the Titan is a better truck overall, this year even though Toyota Tundra fanbois won't admit it ever. Haha...

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

So.....if Madonna sells more cd's than some other band that makes her music better huh? Yeah right....Titan just came on the market anyway....like they have had 4 years head start!

I test drove the double cab Tundra and no it doesn't look bigger than the double cab Titan. I looked over many of both models while deciding which to buy.

Also the Titan has a lot more HP and tourque than Tundra....and, it is a true full size truck not a 7/8 model.

Oh yeah and it won 4x4 truck of the year too....over the Tundra.

Length / Wheelbase / Width / Height

Tundra DC: 230.1 / 140.5 / 79.3
Titan Crew: 224.2 / 139.8 / 78.8

The Lexus RX330 supposedly has larger dimensions than the Acura MDX but there is no way the interior is bigger. Toyota seriously cheats when they do their measurements.