Tundra pickup spearheads Toyota's ad push for '04

[NFS4]

Tundra pickup spearheads Toyota's ad push for '04

Toyota's biggest challenge in 2004, she adds, is maintaining momentum. In the first four months of the year, Toyota Division sold 526,021 vehicles - a 7.9 percent increase over the same period in 2003.

In 2003, the division sold a record 1.6 million vehicles. That figure represented a 6.3 percent increase from 2002, and 2003 was the 10th straight year that the brand's sales topped 1 million. The Camry mid-sized model was the best-selling car in the United States for the second year in a row.

Lentz says the Corolla small-car line outsold the Honda Civic in 2003 for the first time since the 1970s. Corolla sales increased 29.7 percent last year to 257,696 cars. Corolla last year outsold the entire lineups of some other carmakers, including Mitsubishi Motors North America, Mazda North American Operations and Kia Motors America.

"A lot of people are kind of discounting Toyota," saying its vehicles have become staid and boring, says Todd Turner, president of the CarConcepts consulting firm. "But Toyota has stayed true to its core, and I see no vulnerability for that brand."

 

[NutBucket]

Fvck. Just what we need, more fvcking Toyota ads:|:|:|

 

[Jason Clark]

I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy and ford had to offer, there was no contest.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

 

[BooGiMaN]

I gotsa say i love my tundra so far..after owning it for almost a year now.

 

[Vertimus]

Toyota=Good, Solid, Reliable, Cheap cars. But yes, they are boring.

 

[faZZter]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

 

[SoylentGreen]

Took a beating in T3 and kept going.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

 

[faZZter]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

So.....if Madonna sells more cd's than some other band that makes her music better huh? Yeah right....Titan just came on the market anyway....like they have had 4 years head start!

I test drove the double cab Tundra and no it doesn't look bigger than the double cab Titan. I looked over many of both models while deciding which to buy.

Also the Titan has a lot more HP and tourque than Tundra....and, it is a true full size truck not a 7/8 model.

Oh yeah and it won 4x4 truck of the year too....over the Tundra.

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

So.....if Madonna sells more cd's than some other band that makes her music better huh? Yeah right....Titan just came on the market anyway....like they have had 4 years head start!

I test drove the double cab Tundra and no it doesn't look bigger than the double cab Titan. I looked over many of both models while deciding which to buy.

Also the Titan has a lot more HP and tourque than Tundra....and, it is a true full size truck not a 7/8 model.

Oh yeah and it won 4x4 truck of the year too....over the Tundra.

the toyota tundra and the sequoia based on the same platform are due for a remodel this year or next, lets see how they stack up then to the titan

 

[caboob]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

I bet they accelerate their plans to release a gas/electric hybrid version of the Tundra. I'd be all over that. As much as I loved my Ford truck I hated filling the tank every 4 days at $40 a tank. Good thing I dont have to fill the tank now.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

So.....if Madonna sells more cd's than some other band that makes her music better huh? Yeah right....Titan just came on the market anyway....like they have had 4 years head start!

I test drove the double cab Tundra and no it doesn't look bigger than the double cab Titan. I looked over many of both models while deciding which to buy.

Also the Titan has a lot more HP and tourque than Tundra....and, it is a true full size truck not a 7/8 model.

Oh yeah and it won 4x4 truck of the year too....over the Tundra.

Length / Wheelbase / Width / Height

Tundra DC: 230.1 / 140.5 / 79.3
Titan Crew: 224.2 / 139.8 / 78.8

 

[supesman]

boring? what do u want it to do? sing and dance?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: supesman
boring? what do u want it to do? sing and dance?

Huh?

 

[dartworth]

My Ram > any jap truck

 

[BigSmooth]

As others have said, I think it's hard to directly compare Tundra to Titan sales since the Titan is still very new to the market. Additionally, the base price of the Titan is over $6500 more than the Tundra according to Edmund's.

That said, overall Toyota is pretty much kicking ass and taking names right now. They have perhaps the best reputation for quality and reliability on the market, they have tons of products to choose from, and they are at the forefront of hybrid technology. They have made a few missteps here and there but overall they are the automaker to beat. They are increasing sales and profits at the same time, which can be harder than it sounds. They know what the average American customer wants and they are giving it to them.

Even if you don't like the styling or driving feel of their vehicles, you have to admit they are running their business impeccably right now.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: BigSmooth
As others have said, I think it's hard to directly compare Tundra to Titan sales since the Titan is still very new to the market. Additionally, the base price of the Titan is over $6500 more than the Tundra according to Edmund's.

That said, overall Toyota is pretty much kicking ass and taking names right now. They have perhaps the best reputation for quality and reliability on the market, they have tons of products to choose from, and they are at the forefront of hybrid technology. They have made a few missteps here and there but overall they are the automaker to beat. They are increasing sales and profits at the same time, which can be harder than it sounds. They know what the average American customer wants and they are giving it to them.

Even if you don't like the styling or driving feel of their vehicles, you have to admit they are running their business impeccably right now.

The problem with Nissan is that they were trying to hard to go after the big dogs that they didn't stop to think about the average "worker truck"...

V6 engine, standard cab, bare bones

As far as sales go, ALL of Nissan's new launches for '04 are doing poorly (Quest, Titan, Armada)

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: dartworth
My Ram > any jap truck

thats your opinion and your welcome to it..but i happen to think my Tundra limited is a pretty spiffy truck as well

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: BigSmooth
As others have said, I think it's hard to directly compare Tundra to Titan sales since the Titan is still very new to the market. Additionally, the base price of the Titan is over $6500 more than the Tundra according to Edmund's.

That said, overall Toyota is pretty much kicking ass and taking names right now. They have perhaps the best reputation for quality and reliability on the market, they have tons of products to choose from, and they are at the forefront of hybrid technology. They have made a few missteps here and there but overall they are the automaker to beat. They are increasing sales and profits at the same time, which can be harder than it sounds. They know what the average American customer wants and they are giving it to them.

Even if you don't like the styling or driving feel of their vehicles, you have to admit they are running their business impeccably right now.

The problem with Nissan is that they were trying to hard to go after the big dogs that they didn't stop to think about the average "worker truck"...

V6 engine, standard cab, bare bones

I just don't think they were able to start off with all those configurations, though. New product, new factory IIRC... they probably had to choose what they thought would be the most popular configurations for the customer they were targeting.

I still think the Titan is good enough to succeed in the long run, but you're right in that pickup buyers like a wide range of options and they are not offering enough of them right now. I'm guessing we'll see a standard cab at some point and I'd guess they will drop the 4 liter version of the VQ in there.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

I really like the Tundra Double Cab. I've driven one and was very impressed. I also owned a 2000 Tundra (I bought new) and if it weren't for the small back seat I would probably still have it today.

I'm curious to see what changes there are for the Tundra next year. I'm in no hurry to buy a new vehicle.

Edit - I've driven the Titan Crew Cab and I wasn't overly impressed. I still prefer the Tundra.

 

[TRDGT]

Wait til they take over GM, may take time but could happen.
I'll be quietly go YYYYYEEEEESSSSSS

 

[SeaSerpent]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: faZZter

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JasonClark
I love my V8 4Runner, the Tundra is purty nice too. After looking at what chevy, ford had to offer there was no contest.

iForce forevah! Can't wait to see what Toyo does for the next-gen Tundra's V8. I hear at least 5.4 liters and 300+ HP and possibly an HD version.

Then maybe they can catch up to the Titan in horsepower and tourque. Hehe......

Actually Tundras aren't bad, but to me they are 7/8 scale full size pickup.

The Tundra still outsells the Titan so it doesn't matter...

And BTW, the '04 Tundra Double Cab is bigger than both the '04 F-150 Crew AND the Titan Crew Cab.

So.....if Madonna sells more cd's than some other band that makes her music better huh? Yeah right....Titan just came on the market anyway....like they have had 4 years head start!

I test drove the double cab Tundra and no it doesn't look bigger than the double cab Titan. I looked over many of both models while deciding which to buy.

Also the Titan has a lot more HP and tourque than Tundra....and, it is a true full size truck not a 7/8 model.

Oh yeah and it won 4x4 truck of the year too....over the Tundra.

the toyota tundra and the sequoia based on the same platform are due for a remodel this year or next, lets see how they stack up then to the titan

Ya, it will just cost 50,000 bucks....

 

[faZZter]

Here is what is in a typical review of the Titan on the net.....

America's best full-size pickup?

That's the task Nissan has set for itself with what it terms the first truly full-size pickup from a company other than Ford, Dodge, or General Motors. Titan is significantly larger than the Toyota Tundra, which is not quite full-size. Park the Titan next to last year's F-150 and the Ford looks dowdy and diminutive by comparison.
Nissan has done its research, benchmarking favored pickups and edging the bar higher for its Titan. The Titan boasts best in class headroom; best in class torque; best in class interior volume (for the Crew Cab); best 4x4 ground clearance; best 4x4 approach angle; largest in class 4x4 tires. Titan can tow up to 9,500 pounds, putting it at the top of the class alongside the new Ford F-150.

The Titan features a terrific drivetrain with a 5.6-liter V8 and five-speed automatic that deliver dazzling response. Its handling is equally responsive, making it among the most enjoyable of the full-size half-ton pickups. Brakes, suspension, drivetrain all feel refined. This is a serious pickup that pleases all the senses.

Titan boasts clever innovations that improve on the traditional pickup bed, such as the factory-applied spray-in bedliner and a C-channel tie-down system. A stash box integrated into the driver's rear fender offers a neat place to store a hitch or other small items. The rear doors on the King Cab open nearly 180 degrees for quick access.

The Titan was designed in California. It's built at Nissan's new plant at Canton, Mississippi, and its new V8 is built at Nissan's Decherd, Tennessee, production facility.

From this review

Oh wait, here is another shootout the Titan wins.....Tundra came in 4th place!

4 door truck shootout

In fact they say "If you line up the Double Cab with regular and extended-cab Tundras, you?ll notice the four-door has a ?big face.? The cab is taller. There?s more metal over the wheel openings. Yet it still looks small compared with other full-sizers. "

It STILL looks smaller than the others....how does a bigger truck look smaller?!?!? Hmmmmm

Basically the Titan in it's first year out on the market kicked the Tundra's azz, and apparently so did Ford and Dodge.

Four wheeler magazine also selected the Titan as truck of the year......coincidence?

Four wheeler


Here is another Tundra review saying it is smaller than the other "full size" pickups....

"Though classified as full-size, the Tundra models are not as big as the Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Dodge Ram, Chevrolet Silverado, and GMC Sierra models. "

Sorry but the Nissan Titan ownz Toyota Tundra

 

[Red]

Yes, I like the styling and power of the Titan over the Tundra, but I'm not about to slam either truck.

Toyota and now Nissan are making great strides with introducing super high quality trucks to compete with the domestic market.

But, like Skoorb (and alternatively NSF4), I've got to stay loyal to my brand and pick the Titan. If Toyota made the Titan, NSF4 would be choosing it too