Trump's very fine white nationalist people on trial in Charlottesville

[fskimospy]

Do you want names? Come on man. Or do you believe every single person on that side (the right?) Were Nazis? Really?

That was addressed in my post. The fact that it was a Nazi rally was entirely obvious from every angle. As I said before they may have not been Nazis but were at a minimum Nazi indifferent.

If you want to make an argument that people indifferent to Nazism are very fine people I’m open to hearing it.

 

[blackangst1]

That was addressed in my post. The fact that it was a Nazi rally was entirely obvious from every angle. As I said before they may have not been Nazis but were at a minimum Nazi indifferent.

If you want to make an argument that people indifferent to Nazism are very fine people I’m open to hearing it.

I'm indifferent. Although their beliefs are reprehansible, until they break the law, i couldn't care less. What's the alternative? Punish someone for their thoughts? If they want to peaceably assemble i support that.

I guess I'm a bad person right?

 

[fskimospy]

This is the same garbage as Trump telling the Proud Boys to "stand by". Using language to wink wink nod nod and then try to claim something different later.

That’s always been his thing. It’s basically the whole ‘who, me?’ thing people try here.

Since he never had any policy goals credibility didn’t matter to him, so there was no downside for no one believing a word he said. If anything it might help him as a defense in some defamation cases as he can credibly assert he just says wildly false things all the time.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm indifferent. Although their beliefs are reprehansible, until they break the law, i couldn't care less. What's the alternative? Punish someone for their thoughts? If they want to peaceably assemble i support that.

I guess I'm a bad person right?

So to be clear if you were in a parade and found out everyone around you was a Nazi you would continue in the parade because hey, it’s all legal?

 

[HomerJS]

I'm indifferent. Although their beliefs are reprehansible, until they break the law, i couldn't care less. What's the alternative? Punish someone for their thoughts? If they want to peaceably assemble i support that.

I guess I'm a bad person right?

If you are willing to give a pass to a President who would condone this in any fashion does make you a bad person

 

[blackangst1]

So to be clear if you were in a parade and found out everyone around you was a Nazi you would continue in the parade because hey, it’s all legal?

Correct

Edit i guess it would depend on the reason for the parade as to whether or not i attended. Even shitty people can do good things.

 

[blackangst1]

If you are willing to give a pass to a President who would condone this in any fashion does make you a bad person

I didn't condone anything.

 

[MrSquished]

Correct

Edit i guess it would depend on the reason for the parade as to whether or not i attended. Even shitty people can do good things.

KKK Members had bake sales for the PTA. Brown Shirts in Italy had pets and took care of them. Stalinists may have gone to the opera and funded the arts. Who cares, they were still horrific shitty people.

It's good to know how low your standards are. Pretty shitty. But good to know.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Oh P & N. Where someone will look at a person attending a rally filled with nazis and not think ”well he’s just another nazi.”

 

[fskimospy]

Correct

Edit i guess it would depend on the reason for the parade as to whether or not i attended. Even shitty people can do good things.

So it’s a parade organized by Nazis for the purpose of celebrating white supremacy. That’s what happened in Charlottesville. You still participate just because it’s legal?

If so yes, you are a bad person. Those are the very fine people you’re saying were there.

 

[blackangst1]

So it’s a parade organized by Nazis for the purpose of celebrating white supremacy. That’s what happened in Charlottesville. You still participate just because it’s legal?

If so yes, you are a bad person. Those are the very fine people you’re saying were there.

Under those circumstances i wouldn't attend.

 

[blackangst1]

KKK Members had bake sales for the PTA. Brown Shirts in Italy had pets and took care of them. Stalinists may have gone to the opera and funded the arts. Who cares, they were still horrific shitty people.

It's good to know how low your standards are. Pretty shitty. But good to know.

I give to the toys for tots org, and have been on three motorcycle rides for the cause. I'm not going to not go because there will be motorcycle clubs there i happen to disagree with their lifestyle. Just because a facit of someone's life is disagreeable didn't mean they don't love their family, their children, and their community.

 

[MrSquished]

Oh P & N. Where someone will look at a person attending a rally filled with nazis and not think ”well he’s just another nazi.”

blackangst may as well be a Nazi. If you are that cool with them, you are a huge part of the problem. The Germans know

 

[MrSquished]

I give to the toys for tots org, and have been on three motorcycle rides for the cause. I'm not going to not go because there will be motorcycle clubs there i happen to disagree with their lifestyle. Just because a facit of someone's life is disagreeable didn't mean they don't love their family, their children, and their community.

It's one thing if an event is organized by shitty people or whether some just may happen to be there that you don't know about. You are defending people that knowingly went to an event with one purpose, which is insane. Also who cares if someone is loving to their family if they are a fucking Nazi. They want to fucking exterminate non-whites. The point of having a family they might love is stupid anyway. Goebbels had a family. Stalin had a family, etc, etc, etc. Often the worst people in the world and those that went along with them had families. Who gives a shit. Ah well ya know, that KKK klansman who organized that lynching and killed dem blacks, eh that's not nice but he is having a fundraiser with his kids for the school football team and he loves them so that's cool.

Holy fuck dude you are wacked out in the head.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Correct

Edit i guess it would depend on the reason for the parade as to whether or not i attended. Even shitty people can do good things.

wow dude.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Under those circumstances i wouldn't attend.

Why not? I mean, you're not a Nazi right, so you wouldn't be assumed as one if you're marching side by side with them, right?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Let's not forget that the town of Charlottesville voted to move the statue, not destroy it. Democracy at work. The protestors there were not even townsfolk.

And the protestors did not stay in their designated areas. And a Nazi drove his car through a crowd of people.

The very fine people were answering a call from white supremacists. There is no middle ground here.

 

[MrSquished]

Why not? I mean, you're not a Nazi right, so you wouldn't be assumed as one if you're marching side by side with them, right?

Nah he just go because a couple of the guys have a smoking brisket club and he likes that so it would be cool with him. They make good brisket

 

[pmv]

I'm indifferent. Although their beliefs are reprehansible, until they break the law, i couldn't care less. What's the alternative? Punish someone for their thoughts? If they want to peaceably assemble i support that.

I guess I'm a bad person right?

If your form of 'indifference' means you'd go along and participate in a political rally alongside them, then, yes, you're a bad person.

 

[MrSquished]

Fascists, communists, crazy authoritarians, they would go nowhere in history if anybody who loved their family and friends didn't go along with them. They'd be nothing but crazed men with tiny little groups of followers and nothing else.

People need to keep this in mind.

 

[Vic]

Let's not forget that the town of Charlottesville voted to move the statue, not destroy it. Democracy at work. The protestors there were not even townsfolk.

And the protestors did not stay in their designated areas. And a Nazi drove his car through a crowd of people.

The very fine people were answering a call from white supremacists. There is no middle ground here.

For sure, I would never want it to be illegal to have Nazi thoughts, but at the same time the Nazis at Charlottesville did a lot more than just thinking. At its dishonest AF to pretend otherwise.

Stole this from the Hume thread but IMO appropriate to this one.

 

[HomerJS]

I didn't condone anything.

Try reading. I said you gave a pass to a President who condoned this. That does make you a bad person.

 

[MrSquished]

I'm indifferent. Although their beliefs are reprehansible, until they break the law, i couldn't care less. What's the alternative? Punish someone for their thoughts? If they want to peaceably assemble i support that.

I guess I'm a bad person right?

this is you. you and people like you are a huge problem in the world because your types enable the worst of the worst to function.

 

[dawp]

this is you. you and people like you are a huge problem in the world because your types enable the worst of the worst to function.

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what I find interesting is they'll be indifferent until you rub their nose in it which is what happened at the end of WWII.

 

[KMFJD]

jury's in

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