Trump's very fine white nationalist people on trial in Charlottesville

[ch33zw1z]

Why not?

So every conservative on this board is a white supremacist or Nazi? Jesus Christ on a crutch you're not right in the head.

Edit last year i went to a Ghost concert and down front there was this demonic ritualistic thing going on. The fact i was there, am i a demonic ritualist?

Here you go again with poor arguments.

You signed up and went to a Ghost concert. Ghost was what you were expecting, Ghost is what you got, demonic ritualistic thing and all. It's unlikely you were shocked to see this.

This same principle can be applied to the Unite the Right rally.

The rally was put on by white supremacists. If the invite got to you and you attended, then you're probably one of them. If by some chance your not, and notice yourself marching with tons of people wearing Nazi gear....the you'd probably leave, unless you're ok with that stuff.

Since your refusing to remember what this was, even when spelled out to you over and over again, I'll make one more effort to enlighten you:

Unite the Right rally - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now, your red herring style is boring. I'm not sure why you're choosing this hill to defend white supremacists, but it's really not a good look.

And that goes for others around here as well: If you downplay what that event was or try to misrepresent it, you are a nazi sympathizer.

The fact that this conservation is still in play for many people is evidence of how screwed up our country is.

 

[fskimospy]

lol you're a clown

Do you have proof the majority of the crowd was neo Nazis? Is so, so what? Guilty by association?

If this isn’t a joke you’re being deliberately obtuse to an embarrassing degree.

1) the rally was created by Jason Kessler, a neo-Nazi.

Jason Kessler - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

2) the advertisements for it prominently featured Nazi imagery and promoted the fact that neo Nazis would be speaking at it.

3) as we saw, tons of Nazis attended it!

So yeah, it’s reasonable to conclude that in a rally organized by Nazis that promoted Nazis and prominently featured large numbers of Nazis was in fact majority Nazis.

It’s true that perhaps some of the people involved were not Nazis themselves and were instead just Nazi-indifferent. If you want to argue that indifference to nazism is an attribute of a very fine person I’m interested to hear that argument.

 

[dawp]

seems like these bozos can't help but to dig it deeper

Unite the Right defendant Chris Cantwell ends Charlottesville trial by incriminating himself -- again

A jury in a federal civil case to determine whether the dozens of white power extremist leaders and organizations involved in the 2017 Unite the Right rally were liable for conspiring to commit racially motivated violence has now heard all the evidence as the four-week trial in Virginia draws to...

www.rawstory.com

 

[ch33zw1z]

If this isn’t a joke you’re being deliberately obtuse to an embarrassing degree.

1) the rally was created by Jason Kessler, a neo-Nazi.

Jason Kessler - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

2) the advertisements for it prominently featured Nazi imagery and promoted the fact that neo Nazis would be speaking at it.

3) as we saw, tons of Nazis attended it!

So yeah, it’s reasonable to conclude that in a rally organized by Nazis that promoted Nazis and prominently featured large numbers of Nazis was in fact majority Nazis.

It’s true that perhaps some of the people involved were not Nazis themselves and were instead just Nazi-indifferent. If you want to argue that indifference to nazism is an attribute of a very fine person I’m interested to hear that argument.

@blackangst1 any reply to this?

 

[blackangst1]

@blackangst1 any reply to this?

I don't know know much about this event, so just trusting what you posted is true. Although white supremacy and Nazi agendas shouldn't exist, they do, as abborant as they are. And until they break the law, i support their freedom under the first to assemble. But it's they do break the law, products them under the fullest extend under the law.

What did you think i was going to say?

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don't know know much about this event, so just trusting what you posted is true. Although white supremacy and Nazi agendas shouldn't exist, they do, as abborant as they are. And until they break the law, i support their freedom under the first to assemble. But it's they do break the law, products them under the fullest extend under the law.

What did you think i was going to say?

Maybe that you went and looked into it and realized how dumb your question was. /Shrug

 

[blackangst1]

Maybe that you went and looked into it and realized how dumb your question was. /Shrug

Whatever you say. So Trump was wrong to disavow white supremacists and Nazis in his speech? I'm not getting what you're implying.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Whatever you say. So Trump was wrong to disavow white supremacists and Nazis in his speech? I'm not getting what you're implying.

He was wrong to pander to them and take so long to begrudgingly disavow them

Flail moar.

Your post was about who attended the protest, which was horribly uninformed and just plain dumb.

Got anymore red herrings? I'm sure you do, it's your thang

 

[HomerJS]

Whatever you say. So Trump was wrong to disavow white supremacists and Nazis in his speech? I'm not getting what you're implying.

No, he was wrong for calling them very fine people, then after talking to staff disavowing, then within a few days saying he shouldn't have reversed himself.

Did I make it clear for you?

Should I say it again???

How hard would have been for any person remotely fit to hold that office with the slightest moral compass condone them the first time without equivocation?

 

[blackangst1]

No, he was wrong for calling them very fine people, then after talking to staff disavowing, then within a few days saying he shouldn't have reversed himself.

Did I make it clear for you?

Should I say it again???

Jesus Christ. He didn't call them very fine people. If that's you're interpretation you're an idiot taking that phrase out of context.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Jesus Christ. He didn't call them very fine people. If that's you're interpretation you're an idiot taking that phrase out of context.

No, he did. Either that, or he was as badly informed as you.

 

[blackangst1]

No, he did. Either that, or he was as badly informed as you.

lol ok champ.

Edit: so in the same speech when he, a minute later, specifically condemned white supremicists and Nazis, did he wink and nod to the organizers?

 

[ch33zw1z]

lol ok champ.

Lol, 4 years and you still can't bring yourself to read about it. Good job slugger

 

[HomerJS]

Jesus Christ. He didn't call them very fine people. If that's you're interpretation you're an idiot taking that phrase out of context.

Context huh? Now tell me, what we know about that guy how much of his explanation is true?

President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastructure permitting. Reporters shortly began asking questions about Trump’s initial response to violent protests in Charlottesville, Va. It was at this press conference that Trump said that "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

PolitiFact | In Context: Donald Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks (transcript)

 

[MrSquished]

Context huh? Now tell me know what we know about that guy how much of his explanation is true?


PolitiFact | In Context: Donald Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks (transcript)

To admit that what is so obvious is correct, he would be admitting that a huge chunk of the GQP base are white nationalists or ok with white nationalists - which is the truth, but he doesn't like the truth.

 

[blackangst1]

Context huh? Now tell me know what we know about that guy how much of his explanation is true?


PolitiFact | In Context: Donald Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks (transcript)

The whole thing is bullshit. From the article

Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"
Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."
Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."


He didn't wait 48 hours. He denounced them one minute after his born sides comment. In the same speech.

 

[HomerJS]

To admit that what is so obvious is correct, he would be admitting that a huge chunk of the GQP base are white nationalists or ok with white nationalists - which is the truth, but he doesn't like the truth.

and that's why he tried to both sides "very fine people" where any normal person would have condemned the Nazi's unconditionally.

Like AOC said if Trump were really doing the right thing why was it so hard?

 

[fskimospy]

The whole thing is bullshit. From the article

Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"
Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."
Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."


He didn't wait 48 hours. He denounced them one minute after his born sides comment. In the same speech.

So who were these very fine people on the neo-Nazi side?

 

[blackangst1]

So who were these very fine people on the neo-Nazi side?

Do you want names? Come on man. Or do you believe every single person on that side (the right?) Were Nazis? Really?

 

[HomerJS]

Do you want names? Come on man. Or do you believe every single person on that side (the right?) Were Nazis? Really?

Every single person marching that night carrying torches and talking shit about Jews, yes was a Nazi.

IMO

 

[blackangst1]

Every single person marching that night carrying torches and talking shit about Jews, yes was a Nazi.

IMO

Ok.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Do you want names? Come on man. Or do you believe every single person on that side (the right?) Were Nazis? Really?

When the rally is put on by unapologetic neo nazis, then yea...some names would be nice. You don't really buy that crap you're selling, right?

 

[blackangst1]

When the rally is put on by unapologetic neo nazis, then yea...some names would be nice. You don't really buy that crap you're selling, right?

lol

Edit so when Trump said both sides what did he mean? The neo Nazis and everyone else?

 

[ch33zw1z]

lol

Edit so when Trump said both sides what did he mean? The neo Nazis and everyone else?

To you, obviously not. But the two sides were protesters (neo nazi ralliers), and counter protesters (those who oppose neo nazi's).

Because those were literally the two sides. Like I said, maybe he was as horribly uninformed as you are 4 years later.

 

[ch33zw1z]

This is the same garbage as Trump telling the Proud Boys to "stand by". Using language to wink wink nod nod and then try to claim something different later.