Trump will tear Hillary apart in a debate

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buckshot24

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I could see Trump trying to avoid the debates altogether. I cant imagine even the most optimistic of his advisers believe a 1v1 debate with a policy wonk like Clinton will end in anything but disaster. He will look small and foolish as he hurls his insults into a quiet debate hall with no crowd reactions to feed his ego. Cant wait to watch it.
This seemed to be the consensus with Gore/Bush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4Z2r8I2Pw
 

compuwiz1

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Trump is actually very well educated. I think he just switches down his vernacular so the simpletons can understand. Gotta make the case with the trailer park crowd. ;)
 
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Trump is actually very well educated. I think he just switches down his vernacular so the simpletons can understand. Gotta make the case with the trailer park crowd. ;)

so his base is a bunch of uneducated fuckwits. Are you just getting that now?
 

Mxylplyx

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This seemed to be the consensus with Gore/Bush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4Z2r8I2Pw

Not even remotely comparable. Bush was definitely at a disadvantage compared to Gore, and his advisers I'm sure knew that, but Bush was willing to prepare and rehearse for the debates to help mitigate this, because he at least took the task seriously. You think Trump is is going to do the same? Trump makes Bush look like an elder statesman, and that is hard to do. I dont think it's possible to overstate the gulf between Trump and Clinton coming into these debates. It's going to be truly cringe worthy to watch Trump, and I cant wait for SNL's take on it.
 

Jhhnn

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hahaha, good one. If by "eminently qualified" you mean "a better more polished liar scumbag that will likely con her way into the white house on the coat-tails of her husband", then yes. Otherwise, not a chance.

Eminently qualified in a practical sense- former first lady, senator & SoS. Experience counts.

Vs what, exactly? Entitled & self indulgent playboy billionaire & obnoxious reality TV star?

Temperament counts, too. See above.
 

dullard

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Jhhnn

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so his base is a bunch of uneducated fuckwits. Are you just getting that now?

They're victims of decades of relentless right wing propaganda & false promises. They're having an awakening of sorts. They realize they've been screwed but they don't understand that what they believe in as a result of that & who they vote for makes it possible for them to be screwed. They crave leadership & direction that Repubs haven't provided in the wake of the Great Recession. Trump exploits the way they feel the same way that Repub leaders have exploited for decades, just in more blatant ways. Their issues are just smoke screens for the lootocracy.
 

VRAMdemon

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Trump appears to be utterly addicted to the rally. Where he can bask in the attention and approval he needs so badly. That is why he wastes valuable time and resource in states that he probably already has in the bag, he is the atom bomb of attention whores.

We've all seen outakes of his speeches, his "punch lines" that thrill/outrage the crowd. He doesn't give speeches, he gives improv. He meanders about, looking for something that gets that zing! from the audience. He does not lead his audience, he probes his audience for energy, and follows it. Improv politics.

Trump sincerely and mistakenly believes that rallies are an effective campaign tool, that preaching to the choir over and over will expand the size of the choir. It works great to fire up the people who are already fired up and in his corner, it has no useful purpose in bringing around the people who are looking for something presidential.

If he is to "turn around" his campaign, he will have to change his style, he will have to give up all that sweet ego juice for solid political practice. I don't think he can.
 

xaeniac

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Think many are under estimating trump in this thread. How many would have predicted he would win the Republican primary? Many have tried to defeat him thus far and failed. It will be interesting and is a crapshoot for the debates at this point.
 

ivwshane

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Think many are under estimating trump in this thread. How many would have predicted he would win the Republican primary? Many have tried to defeat him thus far and failed. It will be interesting and is a crapshoot for the debates at this point.

You are confusing voting Republicans versus the rest of the voting population. I knew the hard right was full of idiots, what I didn't realize was how many there were. The rest of the voting public consists of former Republicans who think the party has gone too far to the right, Democrats, and former Democrats, all three demos will not be voting for trump.
 

alien42

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Think many are under estimating trump in this thread. How many would have predicted he would win the Republican primary? Many have tried to defeat him thus far and failed. It will be interesting and is a crapshoot for the debates at this point.

Trump is merely a symptom of the sickness that is the Republican party, which is much worse than anyone diagnosed. the debates won't be a crap shoot, they will be blowouts, it will be like watching an adult and a child.
 
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^^I remember Biden having a special debate coach to help him practice how to debate an idiot (Palin) without appearing mean. I wonder if that debate trainer is looking for work?
 

kage69

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Trump is actually very well educated. I think he just switches down his vernacular so the simpletons can understand. Gotta make the case with the trailer park crowd. ;)

You sound like a Bush voter still deep, deep in denial.

Instead of "not speaking well," this time it's him just employing folksy talk! Of course!

Your neighbors know you're badmouthin them like this online?
 

kage69

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^^I remember Biden having a special debate coach to help him practice how to debate an idiot (Palin) without appearing mean. I wonder if that debate trainer is looking for work?

Now there's something to make you cringe: recalling Palin trying to debate.

She's the only person I can think of who ever made Dubya sound like he knew what he was talking about. My god that was just painful to watch.
 

agent00f

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Trump is actually very well educated.

It's actually rather odd with family of their wealth that he had to transfer into the ivy league, particular with his biographer claiming even the Penn transfer was done as a favor.

I think he just switches down his vernacular so the simpletons can understand. Gotta make the case with the trailer park crowd. ;)

This is the case from watching his old recorded appearances, similar to Palin or Bush.
 

yllus

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I think if she takes every chance she has to respond to Trump with "Do you want that person to have access to the nuclear button?" "Do you want that person to have access to our military secrets?" "Do you want that person having access to your federal data?" Etc. Trump wouldn't stand a chance with voters who actually go off of any level of thought instead of just pure emotion.

Agreed. Keep responding to policy questions in depth and watch Trump flounder, keep hammering home how poorly prepared and tempered the guy is. And I really doubt Hillary can be flustered this deep into her career.
 

DrPizza

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I will NOT be surprised if Trump literally tears Hillary on live stage. If he does, his ratings will go even higher.
Another person who is clueless as to how well Hillary handled herself during the Benghazi hearings. Here's something to consider though - she could very calmly deliver a few jokes where Trump is the punchline; I'm sure her team is working on some now that wouldn't seem too out of place. It's guaranteed that Trump would lose his composure.

Trump is actually very well educated. I think he just switches down his vernacular so the simpletons can understand. Gotta make the case with the trailer park crowd. ;)
Trump has gone to excellent schools, this is true, but his admission was most likely earned by wealth, rather than academic ability. He was tossed out of his first private school due to behavior. Trump has claimed several times that he graduated from the Wharton School 1st in his class. The Wharton School has pointed out that Trump didn't even graduate with honors. No, he wasn't first in his class.
 

zinfamous

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There is no chance Hillary can stand up to Trump in a debate, she's too much of a politician and will try to attack him with the usual political mud slinging. However Trump is just too much of a maniac that he's practically fireproof, and will tear her a new one.

Yes, Trump is a maniac. That is the correct part of your post.
 

zinfamous

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We won't see Donald get violent. I doubt he's ever been violent. He's all bark.

Well his hands are too small to be effective anyway. He'd fold like a creampuff against any adversary if he attempted real violence.
 
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Well his hands are too small to be effective anyway. He'd fold like a creampuff against any adversary if he attempted real violence.

nope, he'll just take those lemur-like paws of his and grab a gun and plingo
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fskimospy

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Think many are under estimating trump in this thread. How many would have predicted he would win the Republican primary? Many have tried to defeat him thus far and failed. It will be interesting and is a crapshoot for the debates at this point.

I think the debates simply don't matter that much in the end in most campaigns. While I freely admit that I underestimated his strength in the Republican primary he jumped out to an early lead and stayed there. I simply assumed that lead couldn't last for such an obviously unqualified individual. In the general election his trajectory has been the opposite. He started off weak and he's on a downward trend at least so far. He's losing today and it seems likely that he will continue to lose.