Trump will tear Hillary apart in a debate

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I can't wait to see a debate like this.

Because his debating skills are YYYYYYYUGE and he's the BEST.

:rolleyes:

he has the world's best memory (until he forgets meeting people), uses the best words (until they're misconstrued) so I am sure it will be an unprecedented victory for the drumpf.
 
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That's the point, 95% of America are easily impressed brain donors. Trump's boasting, insults, and ramblings are tailored for the 95%. American voters are not your debate team judges. Most Americans are dumb and Trump is clever enough to realize the uselessness of policies, reasons, and logic. Like it or not, the presidential elections have been giant reality TV shows for last 20 years, and which candidate has the most experience in those?

So with that 95% (which I am sure is entirely accurate and you can easily back it up), he should be doing great in the polls and have a resounding favorable status, right?
I'll just wait here for you to back up those drumpf-esque assertions.

I'll just leave this here:
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ivwshane

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Have the media reports hurt Trump one bit? He's playing the media like a fiddle.

Have they hurt one bit? With his base? Absolutely not! With the rest of the country? I'd say more than likely, yes!
 

Jaskalas

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Have the media reports hurt Trump one bit? He's playing the media like a fiddle.

You don't think the filter (media) of information to the public shapes the general election?
You should tweet Candy Crowley about that. Media even steps in to decide the outcome of debates, they'll definitely shape the reports afterwards to carry the narrative that they want, regardless of what happens on stage.
 

PokerGuy

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OP will be sorely disappointed. Hillary will wrap him around her finger. IMO she will act as the mother and him the child. It will piss him off to no end.

That kind of thinking is exactly what sunk all the other candidates. They underestimated him and got smoked. I suspect hildebeast has people around her to prevent that from happening. Then again, hubris and arrogance could get the best of her as it has time and time again, but I think she'll stay on point.

Lol! And the rationalizing begins!

Rationalization? Nothing to rationalize. I've said it for years, she's the anointed one, nothing will stand in her way, there are a lot of powerful forces in her corner to make sure of that.

Or maybe she's just eminently more qualified than Trump to be POTUS in every respect.

hahaha, good one. If by "eminently qualified" you mean "a better more polished liar scumbag that will likely con her way into the white house on the coat-tails of her husband", then yes. Otherwise, not a chance.
 

kage69

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That's the point, 95% of America are easily impressed brain donors. Trump's boasting, insults, and ramblings are tailored for the 95%. American voters are not your debate team judges. Most Americans are dumb and Trump is clever enough to realize the uselessness of policies, reasons, and logic. Like it or not, the presidential elections have been giant reality TV shows for last 20 years, and which candidate has the most experience in those?

I think where you are heading off the path is believing that a segment of GOP voters represents the vast majority of the country.

I don't have to like or not like anything, you couldn't be more incorrect. All previous elections cycles have functioned without the reality TV element and have included a certain level of civility and decorum. Maybe you aren't old enough to remember the widespread fallout from Ross Perot having the audacity to use the words "You people." GHWB checking his damn watch was outrageous!

Now compare that to today where the GOP frontrunner brags about his dick and talks about women like they are little more than eye-candy and jizz receptacles. Can you think of a previous election where the GOP candidate ditched the small government schtick and went straight to racist invective as well as proudly advocating blatantly unconstitutional legislation for the dogwhistle effect?

Sorry, but you're living in fantasyland, which is even more detached from reality than clinging to Bullshit Mountain.
 
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ivwshane

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That kind of thinking is exactly what sunk all the other candidates. They underestimated him and got smoked. I suspect hildebeast has people around her to prevent that from happening. Then again, hubris and arrogance could get the best of her as it has time and time again, but I think she'll stay on point.



Rationalization? Nothing to rationalize. I've said it for years, she's the anointed one, nothing will stand in her way, there are a lot of powerful forces in her corner to make sure of that.



hahaha, good one. If by "eminently qualified" you mean "a better more polished liar scumbag that will likely con her way into the white house on the coat-tails of her husband", then yes. Otherwise, not a chance.

When your reasons for her winning aren't based on reality, you are rationalizing. The whole, she's a lying con artist protected by the media, is a contradiction in of itself. There is a reason why the right flings so much bullshit about the Clinton's, it's because the media repeats it.
 

Subyman

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That kind of thinking is exactly what sunk all the other candidates. They underestimated him and got smoked. I suspect hildebeast has people around her to prevent that from happening. Then again, hubris and arrogance could get the best of her as it has time and time again, but I think she'll stay on point.

Hubris and arrogance is Trump's thing. Clinton certainly has it, but not as a brain defect like Trump.
 

PokerGuy

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Hubris and arrogance is Trump's thing. Clinton certainly has it, but not as a brain defect like Trump.

Nobody said he doesn't have hubris and arrogance. The point is that the only thing that can sink her is if hubris and arrogance makes her think she can't be sunk by Trump. Many other candidates have found that out the hard way. She's demonstrated such hubris and arrogance plenty of times in the past, we'll see if she can contain it now. I think she can -- basically all she has to do to win is not have a complete meltdown where her true colors shine through. That's not a tall order.
 

umbrella39

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There is no chance Hillary can stand up to Trump in a debate, she's too much of a politician and will try to attack him with the usual political mud slinging. However Trump is just too much of a maniac that he's practically fireproof, and will tear her a new one.

LMAO! He's going to show what a dumbed-down low information poster boy looks like and will have his ass handed to him. People with brains understand what debate is and isn't and that all he has is every logical fallacy known to man going for him...
 

Vic

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That's the point, 95% of America are easily impressed brain donors. Trump's boasting, insults, and ramblings are tailored for the 95%. American voters are not your debate team judges. Most Americans are dumb and Trump is clever enough to realize the uselessness of policies, reasons, and logic. Like it or not, the presidential elections have been giant reality TV shows for last 20 years, and which candidate has the most experience in those?
This logic might work if not for the fact that Trump has already pissed off and/or insulted more than half of that 95%.
 

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Trump got fucked by Republicans who are so scared of not being able to keep up with the countries changing demographics that they sold Trump out as a racists to save the party from being tarred by Democrats successful tarring of Trump as a racist. They made that tarring succeed. Trump had to take one to save the team, a team of vipers.
 

Sonikku

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I have not yet ruled out the possibility that Trump is secretly doing Hillary a favor while simultaneously outing how broken our system has become while he does it.
 

sontakke

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I will NOT be surprised if Trump literally tears Hillary on live stage. If he does, his ratings will go even higher.
 

nageov3t

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as the field winnowed down in the GOP race, I felt like Trump got weaker and weaker in the debates especially when he was only on stage with 2 other guys compared to having a dozen people to riff with and deflect to.

also take into consideration that at the Presidential debates, the crowds are asked to hold their applause, so Trump isn't going to be able to play to the audience like he does at his rallies or in the Republican debates.
 

sontakke

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Raise your hand if you will be actually surprised if Donald becomes physically violent against a woman on live stage.
 

Subyman

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We won't see Donald get violent. I doubt he's ever been violent. He's all bark.
 

Mxylplyx

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I could see Trump trying to avoid the debates altogether. I cant imagine even the most optimistic of his advisers believe a 1v1 debate with a policy wonk like Clinton will end in anything but disaster. He will look small and foolish as he hurls his insults into a quiet debate hall with no crowd reactions to feed his ego. Cant wait to watch it.
 

buckshot24

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Trump will be completely out of his element. I haven't seen that anyone has done so, but I'd love for someone to transcribe Trump's statements in the previous debates, and other statements in general, and do something like a Flesch–Kincaid analysis to determine the reading level (I presume there's an equivalent for speech.) In my opinion, his vocabulary seems inferior to many of my senior high school students.

edit: never mind. Carnegie Mellon did this. While most politicians speak with a lower grade vocabulary level Trump speaks at the lowest. Only GW had worse grammar, Trump and GW being between 5th and 6th grade.
https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2016/march/speechifying.html
Flesch-Kincaid doesn't have anything to do with better or worse grammar, teacher.