Trump White House/Cabinet appointments

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Thump553

Lifer
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GOP is playing with dynamite by privatizing Medicare. Seniors don't want their stupid vouchers, they want health coverage taken care of. It's going to blow up their party. Then Democrats will implement what we see fit, which is Medicare for all.

Ordinarily your statement is 100% correct. But here we are dealing with a GOP House, GOP Senate and GOP President-they can ram through damn near anything they please. Coupled with the fact that a huge portion of the population at least currently feels Trump can do no wrong no matter what he says or does, the chances are pretty high they will jam through privatization of Medicare if he gets on board. I'm sure Paul Ryan, and Trump's proposed Sec of HSS and other like minded are going to be pushing hard to do this now. When the general voting public realizes they went to far it will already be too late.
 

Balt

Lifer
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GOP is playing with dynamite by privatizing Medicare. Seniors don't want their stupid vouchers, they want health coverage taken care of. It's going to blow up their party. Then Democrats will implement what we see fit, which is Medicare for all.

They'll probably phase it in over time so that it affects younger people the most. There are plenty of seniors who don't give a crap about what happens after they're gone, as long as they get theirs.
 

theeedude

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They'll probably phase it in over time so that it affects younger people the most. There are plenty of seniors who don't give a crap about what happens after they're gone, as long as they get theirs.

They won't be around to phase it in over time, it will be repealed and replaced with Medicare for all before that happens.
 

theeedude

Lifer
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Ordinarily your statement is 100% correct. But here we are dealing with a GOP House, GOP Senate and GOP President-they can ram through damn near anything they please. Coupled with the fact that a huge portion of the population at least currently feels Trump can do no wrong no matter what he says or does, the chances are pretty high they will jam through privatization of Medicare if he gets on board. I'm sure Paul Ryan, and Trump's proposed Sec of HSS and other like minded are going to be pushing hard to do this now. When the general voting public realizes they went to far it will already be too late.

I am sure they'll do their worst in the near term. But, on the other hand, Americans need to suffer a bit for their own good, because they've forgotten what happens when they get complacent. In the long run, I think GOP will overreach and destroy itself.
 

jman19

Lifer
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I don't recall "Holding Wall Street accountable" as being one of Trumps campaign promises, i may be wrong though. Do you have a quote?

"I know Wall Street. I know the people on Wall Street.... I'm not going to let Wall Street get away with murder. Wall Street has caused tremendous problems for us."

Or how about Donald slamming Clinton for her Wall Street ties and Goldman speeches?

Revolving door continues. No "change" here.
 
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Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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DeVos and Sessions really bum me out. Then again, I'm anti-charter / private schools, so I think I'm in the minority.
 

Jhhnn

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I don't recall "Holding Wall Street accountable" as being one of Trumps campaign promises, i may be wrong though. Do you have a quote?

That's what Hillary said, remember? I doubt you ever heard a single word that she said but rather used an interpreter, like Breitbart, Drudge, Newsmax & wherever social media sent you.
 
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"I know Wall Street. I know the people on Wall Street.... I'm not going to let Wall Street get away with murder. Wall Street has caused tremendous problems for us."

Or how about Donald slamming Clinton for her Wall Street ties and Goldman speeches?

Revolving door continues. No "change" here.
Thank you.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I am sure they'll do their worst in the near term. But, on the other hand, Americans need to suffer a bit for their own good, because they've forgotten what happens when they get complacent. In the long run, I think GOP will overreach and destroy itself.

In the long run we're all dead.
 

Jhhnn

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I am sure they'll do their worst in the near term. But, on the other hand, Americans need to suffer a bit for their own good, because they've forgotten what happens when they get complacent. In the long run, I think GOP will overreach and destroy itself.

Bullshit. There are places in this country, a lot of them Trump country, that haven't recovered from the ownership society flimflam. It's part of what led them to vote for Trump in the first place.

The insincerity & the cruelty behind it all are appalling.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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They won't be around to phase it in over time, it will be repealed and replaced with Medicare for all before that happens.

And that's the fucked up part of all this. These shitty policies won't affect the shitty people who voted for a shitty president because these shitty Republican politicians will be sure that baby boomers get theirs.
 

Jhhnn

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And that's the fucked up part of all this. These shitty policies won't affect the shitty people who voted for a shitty president because these shitty Republican politicians will be sure that baby boomers get theirs.

Please. The youngest boomers were born in 1964. They got screwed in the S&L crisis, in the tech bust & again in the housing bubble. Older boomers had the additional privilege of getting screwed in the credit crunch of the early 1980's. It's why a lot of boomers will just work 'til they die. That's if they can.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Please. The youngest boomers were born in 1964. They got screwed in the S&L crisis, in the tech bust & again in the housing bubble. Older boomers had the additional privilege of getting screwed in the credit crunch of the early 1980's. It's why a lot of boomers will just work 'til they die. That's if they can.

Sorry jhhnn, I know you are a boomer but the fact remains, as generations go, they were one of the suckier ones. They started off great only to become exactly what they fought/rallied against. Hypocrites and whiners pretty much describes a majority of them. Don't take it personal, it's an obvious over generalization but on the whole, your generation sucks. They certainly won't be leaving the world better than when they came into it.
 

agent00f

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I think it's more accurate to say the boomers lived some of the most privileged lives in world history, on totem top of a world free to exploit as they saw fit.

That privilege bred complacency and avarice, which is why they still expect world-leading salaries/retirement for grunt work. That was only natural with the post-war pre-globalization labor shortage. That party ended long ago as everyone else caught up, and nobody smart wants to pay 50k+/yr for something someone somewhere else in the world can to do for a fraction.

So the state now has to step in to subsidize that lifestyle, and everyone who's paying attention knows that can only go on for so long.
 
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.................. I doubt you ever heard a single word that she said but rather used an interpreter, like Breitbart, Drudge, Newsmax & wherever social media sent you.
It's pretty hard to have watched the debates without listening to Hillary. She was well practiced and you could tell that what she said was well researched, focus group tested, rehearsed and insincere. Tough to tell if some of what she said were her private views or her public positions. Unlike yourself i didn't spend much time only reading Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo, Nation, Mother Jones or Salon. We all have our own sources.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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It's pretty hard to have watched the debates without listening to Hillary. She was well practiced and you could tell that what she said was well researched, focus group tested, rehearsed and insincere. Tough to tell if some of what she said were her private views or her public positions. Unlike yourself i didn't spend much time only reading Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo, Nation, Mother Jones or Salon. We all have our own sources.

I have some doubts about your supposed degree given this kind of attitude towards practice/research.
 

sportage

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I can tell one thing.
Mitt Romney has one thing and only one thing on his mind.
To become president of the United States of America.
And if Mitt can convince Donald to grant Mitt a post in his administration, then Mitt is half way there.
A presidential candidate Mitt Romney going up against the public would be much more desirable with a little ole Trump administration post under his belt than a Mitt Romney without.

Mitt doesn't care one hoot about Trump, nor serving the orange buffoon in one of his cabinet posts.
For Mitt, this is all about the future of Mitt Romney.
"President" Mitt Romney.

Mitt is willing to forgive, bent down (or bend over if necessary) to kiss the ring of Donald Trump should that secure a post within Donald Trump's world of half wits and nitwits.
Mitt isn't about Trump or America or you or me or serving any of that mentioned.
Mitt is all about MITT ROMNEY.

I think Kelly Conway realized this too. But she seriously doubts that her boss Donald gets it.

Mitt Romney 2024? Maybe....
Mitt Romney 2020? Most likely.
If Donald only knew....
Et tu, Brute? Et tu? ;)

 

boomerang

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Why Trump is courting Romney for the State Department

This is an interesting read with a take on a possible Romney appointment that I had never considered. I'll quote one paragraph even though it's a very short read.

Mitt Romney as secretary of state would focus not on policy, but on doing to the State Department what he has done to poorly performing companies: close down entire segments of the organization and reorganize what the survivors do around re-thought goals and procedures. This is a formidable art, and one that Romney is an acknowledged master of, thanks to his many years at Bain Capital, buying companies and turning them around. He has deep experience in refocusing on what matters most and the most effective ways to accomplish the redefined priorities.

Our government must be overhauled. It must be rebuilt into a leaner machine that works exponentially more efficient internally. On Thanksgiving, my wife's one sister (who we refer to as the arms dealer) was saying that she was probably going to have to go to Egypt for a month to oversee an operation we run there. She was lamenting that there are two people eminently qualified for the job (job's actually as their are two positions that need filling) that want to take over that operation that have been stuck in the approval process for many months. One for four and the other for over eight. The pisser being that they are both currently government employee's and have been for many years. One has been working in the same department for over a decade. The wheels within our government turn far too slow and inefficiently.
 

Jhhnn

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Sorry jhhnn, I know you are a boomer but the fact remains, as generations go, they were one of the suckier ones. They started off great only to become exactly what they fought/rallied against. Hypocrites and whiners pretty much describes a majority of them. Don't take it personal, it's an obvious over generalization but on the whole, your generation sucks. They certainly won't be leaving the world better than when they came into it.

Please. Boomers just happened to be the grownups when Repub propaganda was reaching its zenith. We've always been deeply divided with younger boomers actually being more conservative. The oldest boomers are now 70 & seniors older than that are generally quite conservative.