Trump : What we did. Cohen : 3 Years

[cytg111]

This is great stuff

Lies lies lies and more lies, all coming out into the beautiful sunshine

Trump admitting to the affairs and being individual-1 AND Cohen going down for that very same crime.
What do you call a president that goes directly to jail once he leaves the WH? Its not a lame duck, its a.... ?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1072920384591314944

https://twitter.com/x/status/1072920384591314944

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Trump didn’t admit to the affair. He admitted to paying Daniels to not say she had an affair with him. He can still claim it was untrue but did so to protect his *snicker* reputation.

 

[cytg111]

Sorry, coherent thought nicht comprende... thats not what I meant, I meant that he admitted to the same crime as Cohen is now going down for...
Trump : I DID IT! IT WAS ME!

 

[woolfe9998]

Trump didn’t admit to the affair. He admitted to paying Daniels to not say she had an affair with him. He can still claim it was untrue but did so to protect his *snicker* reputation.

Right, meaning he admitted to conspiring with Cohen to commit a felony. Whether he really slept with her or not is irrelevant to the crime.

Edit: I see that cytg111 has already clarified that point.

 

[Greenman]

Sorry, coherent thought nicht comprende... thats not what I meant, I meant that he admitted to the same crime as Cohen is now going down for...
Trump : I DID IT! IT WAS ME!

The campaign finance violations are one of three charges Cohen was found guilty of. That one would most likely have been just a fine, though I haven't seen any sort of breakdown on time vs crime.

 

[cytg111]

The campaign finance violations are one of three charges Cohen was found guilty of. That one would most likely have been just a fine, though I haven't seen any sort of breakdown on time vs crime.

Fair point.

 

[ecogen]

The campaign finance violations are one of three charges Cohen was found guilty of. That one would most likely have been just a fine, though I haven't seen any sort of breakdown on time vs crime.

Citation needed, most felonies tend to be associated with jail time.

From the AP:

Cohen is charged with “causing an unlawful corporate contribution” and making an excessive campaign contribution.


Since both charges involve large dollar amounts above $25,000, they are felonies that each carry a maximum prison sentence of five years.

 

[Viper1j]

This is great stuff

Lies lies lies and more lies, all coming out into the beautiful sunshine

Trump admitting to the affairs and being individual-1 AND Cohen going down for that very same crime.
What do you call a president that goes directly to jail once he leaves the WH? Its not a lame duck, its a.... ?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1072920384591314944

https://twitter.com/x/status/1072920384591314944

Bobby Hannsen is fluffing his pillow in anticipation of a new bitch to scream into it.

Donny will get penetrated at least once simply for bragging rights. How many cons will ever be able to say they once fucked a president?

 

[realibrad]

Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

 

[Paratus]

One thing to note about the payment being to protect his reputation vs an illegal contribution to protect his campaign, the affair happened in 2006-2007. The payments Cohen just went to jail for occurred in Oct 2016.

So the timing would have to be explained.

 

[ecogen]

One thing to note about the payment being to protect his reputation vs an illegal contribution to protect his campaign, the affair happened in 2006-2007. The payments Cohen just went to jail for occurred in Oct 2016.

So the timing would have to be explained.

About that... https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...ymate-hush-payment-to-influence-2016-election

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This is absolutely worth watching.

 

[ivwshane]

One thing to note about the payment being to protect his reputation vs an illegal contribution to protect his campaign, the affair happened in 2006-2007. The payments Cohen just went to jail for occurred in Oct 2016.

So the timing would have to be explained.

Not only that but you also have the head of AMI (national inquire) saying they burried the story to protect trumps presidency at the request of trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/media/american-media-inc-southern-district-new-york/index.html

 

[Dulanic]

Trump doesn't care who he runs over with his mess. He is truly a mob boss, the number of people going down for him is crazy and he truly doesn't give a shit.

 

[Greenman]

Citation needed, most felonies tend to be associated with jail time.

From the AP:

Campaign finance crimes seem to generally end up with a fine. I believe Obama had a finance issue for which he paid a hefty fine.
Cohen was convicted of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and perjury. All of those are serious charges. But again, I don't know if the fines and jail time were allocated to each crime.

Edit: The only thing I could find in a google search indicates that Cohen got 36 months for the campaign finance charge, two months for lying to congress, and not a single day for tax fraud. I'm more than a little surprised by that.

 

[ivwshane]

Campaign finance crimes seem to generally end up with a fine. I believe Obama had a finance issue for which he paid a hefty fine.
Cohen was convicted of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and perjury. All of those are serious charges. But again, I don't know if the fines and jail time were allocated to each crime.

Edit: The only thing I could find in a google search indicates that Cohen got 36 months for the campaign finance charge, two months for lying to congress, and not a single day for tax fraud. I'm more than a little surprised by that.

Obama's campaign finance issue was self reported and corrected and yes they paid a small fine (relatively speaking).

 

[Paratus]

Obama's campaign finance issue was self reported and corrected and yes they paid a small fine (relatively speaking).

Self reporting a campaign error is quite frankly what I expect from my politcal party.

Others are apparently fine with shell companies, lies and felonies.

 

[zinfamous]

This is absolutely worth watching.

Obviously a liberal plant not telling the truth on that betacuck RINO Shepard Smith's show.

 

[alien42]

Obama's campaign finance issue was self reported and corrected and yes they paid a small fine (relatively speaking).

As did McCain.

 

[ecogen]

Campaign finance crimes seem to generally end up with a fine. I believe Obama had a finance issue for which he paid a hefty fine.
Cohen was convicted of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and perjury. All of those are serious charges. But again, I don't know if the fines and jail time were allocated to each crime.

Edit: The only thing I could find in a google search indicates that Cohen got 36 months for the campaign finance charge, two months for lying to congress, and not a single day for tax fraud. I'm more than a little surprised by that.

Not all campaign finance violations are equal. Some are misdemeanors some are felonies etc. Obama's were misdemeanors, these ones are felonies. It's not rocket science.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I hear the nothing burgers in FPMITA prison are to die for.

 

[Meghan54]

Where we are currently:

4 persons sentenced to prison
7 guilty pleas
36 persons/entities charged
1 person found guilty at trial
192 overall criminal counts

And that's as of Thursday morning.......who knows what the rest of the week will produce.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trump is tweetstorming as I post about how it's not his fault. SUSPENSE!

 

[fskimospy]

Campaign finance crimes seem to generally end up with a fine. I believe Obama had a finance issue for which he paid a hefty fine.
Cohen was convicted of campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and perjury. All of those are serious charges. But again, I don't know if the fines and jail time were allocated to each crime.

Edit: The only thing I could find in a google search indicates that Cohen got 36 months for the campaign finance charge, two months for lying to congress, and not a single day for tax fraud. I'm more than a little surprised by that.

Campaign finance violations are perfectly normal in large campaigns and happen every year. They are generally punished by a fine because they are not purposeful.

What does not happen in every campaign is the campaign creates shell companies to conceal donations so they don’t have to be reported because the reporting would damage their electoral chances. This is a big time felony and that is why Cohen is going to prison.

It’s the lying and the hiding that is the big deal here. Had Trump paid off his mistress and reported it he would have been fine. He didn’t do this though because he concluded (probably correctly) that it would have cost him the election.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Other than the idiocy, which speaks for itself, is he threatening Cohen's family in that last part?:

Said by Individual - 1

"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law. It is called “advice of counsel,” and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made. That is why they get paid. Despite that many campaign finance lawyers have strongly......
...stated that I did nothing wrong with respect to campaign finance laws, if they even apply, because this was not campaign finance. Cohen was guilty on many charges unrelated to me, but he plead to two campaign charges which were not criminal and of which he probably was not...
....guilty even on a civil basis. Those charges were just agreed to by him in order to embarrass the president and get a much reduced prison sentence, which he did-including the fact that his family was temporarily let off the hook. As a lawyer, Michael has great liability to me!"

Jeez!...Why so many tweets when "I am not a crook" would serve just as well?

If there's one thing Trump enjoys more than lying, it's accusing others of lying. And...If there's one thing Trump enjoys more than being dumb, it's accusing others of being dumb.