Trump University - a fraud according to students

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jackstar7

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LegendKiller said:
As opposed to a shitty sec state under a federal criminal investigation?
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What if we grant your position here? What then?

She was somehow the worst sec of state of all time. Doesn't change that Trump defrauds people and bribes other people to evade prosecution, and he has no experience in public service, so even less competence than Hilary.

You're going to run that horse into the goddamned ground, aren't ya?
 
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LegendKiller

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jackstar7 said:
What if we grant your position here? What then?

She was somehow the worst sec of state of all time. Doesn't change that Trump defrauds people and bribes other people to evade prosecution, and he has no experience in public service, so even less competence than Hilary.

You're going to run that horse into the goddamned ground, aren't ya?
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Less competence than hillary? Lol
 
Subyman

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LegendKiller said:
There hasn't been a single thing hillary has been good at, except corruption. I guess you could say she is far more competent than trump at that.
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And Trump is great at fraud and bankruptcy. Round and round it goes! :D
 
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agent00f

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buckshot24 said:
Raza means race. Deal with it.
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This makes for an interesting observation of people who believe it. Generally words in different languages/cultures don't maps to identical connotations, nor is disambiguation uncommon even in the same language. Either fact should be clear enough to the minimally educated in either arena. For example, some blood bank isn't typically confused with bloods the gang except by the frightfully ignorant.

In the context of this thread, it wouldn't seem a coincidence or surprise that it's the same sort of folks who would pay handsomely towards a Trump U degree, or at least support the kind of person who's behind all this exploitation of the stupid. I mean, this is a guy who literally dumbs down his speeches to a 4th grade level, not to mention tweets & such written with english hardly better than the illegals he demeans.
 
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buckshot24

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agent00f said:
This makes for an interesting observation of people who believe it. Generally words in different languages/cultures don't maps to identical connotations, nor is disambiguation uncommon even in the same language. Either fact should be clear enough to the minimally educated in either arena. For example, some blood bank isn't typically confused with bloods the gang except by the frightfully ignorant.
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I've had a lot to say about this topic and this isn't a fair criticism of mine since I totally agree with you. The words mean the race but it could mean something else in different contexts.
In the context of this thread, it wouldn't seem a coincidence or surprise that it's the same sort of folks who would pay handsomely towards a Trump U degree, or at least support the kind of person who's behind all this exploitation of the stupid. I mean, this is a guy who literally dumbs down his speeches to a 4th grade level, not to mention tweets & such written with english hardly better than the illegals he demeans.
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Tell me, why would you want to exclude people from your message by using bigger words unnecessarily? His goal is to communicate to as many people as possible.
 
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buckshot24 said:
I've had a lot to say about this topic and this isn't a fair criticism of mine since I totally agree with you. The words mean the race but it could mean something else in different contexts.
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What's more important here isn't your or my opinion, but rather the fact many people feel that conflating the hispanic law association to some other org just because they use the same word in the title is a smart argument.

Consider if you will some group arguing that 2+2=22, just because it conveniently fit their position. Would they warrant any credibility, or it's ironically a case of politics as usual coming from people who want to appear as outsiders.

Tell me, why would you want to exclude people from your message by using bigger words unnecessarily? His goal is to communicate to as many people as possible.
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Words are written to an audience. For example, kiddy talk to children or pets, but aren't suitable towards other adults. That's why most political speeches target at least a middle school vocab, a suitable level for most all marginally responsible adults when discussing societal issues. Contrast this to for instance a reality tv show, which if anything targets the most gullible consumers for whatever the advertisers are selling.

Similarly, there's some responsibility of any credible educational institute to make sure students will get something out of courses, instead of milking as much money out of them as possible.
 
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agent00f said:
Words are written to an audience. For example, kiddy talk to children or pets, but aren't suitable towards other adults. That's why most political speeches target at least a middle school vocab, a suitable level for most all marginally responsible adults when discussing societal issues. Contrast this to for instance a reality tv show, which if anything targets the most gullible consumers for whatever the advertisers are selling.
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I'm not going to get into arguing against your opinion on what he should do as that would be a complete waste of time. When you become a candidate you can do as you wish.
 
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buckshot24 said:
I'm not going to get into arguing against your opinion on what he should do as that would be a complete waste of time. When you become a candidate you can do as you wish.
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He is of course free to do as he wishes, but with that freedom comes the freedom to be criticized (which he often tries to sue people for, which reveals what he thinks of freedom). Appealing to the worst in people to the point of taking advantage of them is rather undeniably unethical. This is true of Trump U, his new politics, and his businesses like casinos, etc.
 
buckshot24

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agent00f said:
He is of course free to do as he wishes, but with that freedom comes the freedom to be criticized (which he often tries to sue people for, which reveals what he thinks of freedom). Appealing to the worst in people to the point of taking advantage of them is rather undeniably unethical. This is true of Trump U, his new politics, and his businesses like casinos, etc.
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I like chocolate chip cookies myself, what about you?
 
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agent00f

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Hucksters preying on the weak are objectively poor candidates, similar to how feces makes for a terrible desert.
 
buckshot24

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agent00f said:
Hucksters preying on the weak are objectively poor candidates, similar to how feces makes for a terrible desert.
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So you don't like feces flavored cookies. I'll mark that off the list, what is your favorite cookie flavor?
 
Charmonium

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As the old saying goes - don't bother explaining. your friends don't need it and you enemies won't believe you anyway.
 
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