Trump University - a fraud according to students

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buckshot24

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Please read the entire post. The groups help integrate minorities into society. They specialize in specific demographics. Think of a clinic that specializes in cancer patients. You could say they deny people with heart problems, but that's not telling the entire story.
I read the entire post. You don't need to segregate to do this.
 

Subyman

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I read the entire post. You don't need to segregate to do this.

Well that's great that you hand wave away all the effort I put into neatly laying out what I've learned by actually being involved in some of those groups during my time in higher education. :thumbs down:

You ask people questions and then dismiss it all immediately. Why even ask at all?
 

buckshot24

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Well that's great that you hand wave away all the effort I put into neatly laying out what I've learned by actually being involved in some of those groups during my time in higher education. :thumbs down:
For newly arrived immigrants you may have a point as the language barriers can be immense. Granted. For people who have grown up here and speak perfect English, not so much. There is no reason to separate people that I can think of.
 

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For newly arrived immigrants you may have a point as the language barriers can be immense. Granted. For people who have grown up here and speak perfect English, not so much. There is no reason to separate people that I can think of.

They aren't being separated. They are being integrated. They need help and a support network from people who have done it before and understand their background. Especially first generation minorities.

I'd really recommend going to a local advocacy group and volunteering. I think it would be good for you to try to understand other groups and people.

You could even stop thinking about race and instead think of groups with different needs and try to understand why they would need specialized services. Suicide hotlines, domestic violence help groups, and AA. These all target specific groups with specific needs. Now think of the specific needs of the black community or latinos, in particular when their parents never went to college. They have unique needs.
 

buckshot24

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They aren't being separated. They are being integrated. They need help and a support network from people who have done it before and understand their background. Especially first generation minorities.
I can only see this being necessary for first generation minorities.
I'd really recommend going to a local advocacy group and volunteering. I think it would be good for you to try to understand other groups and people.
A have worked with many first generation Cuban immigrants. The kids who have been born and raised here don't need the same services. They speak perfect English and don't need to be separated since their needs are not unique as compared to other races and nationalities.
You could even stop thinking about race and instead think of groups with different needs and try to understand why they would need specialized services. Suicide hotlines, domestic violence help groups, and AA. These all target specific groups with specific needs. Now think of the specific needs of the black community or latinos, in particular when their parents never went to college. They have unique needs.
What does a 2nd generation Vietnamese kid need that a 2nd generation Cuban kid doesn't? They both speak English perfectly, why have two segregated groups for them?

My step daughter is turning 18 this year, she was born in Cuba (came here when she was 3), she speaks English perfectly. She doesn't need any services any other kid of any nationality doesn't need. Why should she go to a Cuban only group for help?
 
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0roo0roo

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Nobody is going to watch a 40 minute video. If "the truth about Trump University and Judge Gonzalo Curiel" is that damning, it should be easy to summarize in a few paragraphs.

"high information voters"
Don't know anymore than what John Oliver has fed them....

The Truth About Trump University and Judge Gonzalo Curiel
Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9XMioUUa3E

By the lefts own standards, the judge fails, as I stated before

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http://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges#c

I've watched this joker before. It's the same old "libertarian" bullshit...

I really don't care about his "libertarian" bullshit.

Is he right, or is he wrong. I don't agree with half the things he says, but its the sad fact that his "the truth about" series fills the chasm left by a media which doesn't cover issues honestly or in depth, and on those, outside his commentary he is more often than not correct.
 

1prophet

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is Trump's history of stiffing people and not paying his bills on topic?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

it's like a character witness to the fraud trial and another Trump thread really isn't needed.


But stuff like that is not as sensational as calling him Drump, making fun of his hair, Racist, Bigot, calling him a Nazi, etc., etc.

Wonder what skeletons republicans had in their past not to push issues that average person could understand early on.
 

fskimospy

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Does that have anything to do with the actions of the organization?

Lol breitbart. I've rarely seen a news source with more contempt for their audience.

By the way I've really been enjoying watching Trump melt down lately. Have you? I don't think I've ever seen a campaign go south so fast after securing the nomination. I guess that's what happens when you nominate an incompetent.
 

LegendKiller

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Does that have anything to do with the actions of the organization?

Lol breitbart. I've rarely seen a news source with more contempt for their audience.

By the way I've really been enjoying watching Trump melt down lately. Have you? I don't think I've ever seen a campaign go south so fast after securing the nomination. I guess that's what happens when you nominate an incompetent.
Yup, nothing to see here. Just a judge belonging to a racist organization.
 

fskimospy

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Yup, nothing to see here. Just a judge belonging to a racist organization.

Yes clearly, haha. Look, you ended up supporting a racist con man. It's not too late to admit you made a mistake. You don't want to end up like all those other people Trump has conned do you?

I liked the latest one today about how he routinely tried to con his contractors. Then, when they sued him he ended up conning the lawyers be bored to defend him too.

It's funny to watch this fraud get buried under an avalanche of his own shit and it's only June. Can you imagine how much they have on him?
 

LegendKiller

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Yes clearly, haha. Look, you ended up supporting a racist con man. It's not too late to admit you made a mistake. You don't want to end up like all those other people Trump has conned do you?

I liked the latest one today about how he routinely tried to con his contractors. Then, when they sued him he ended up conning the lawyers be bored to defend him too.

It's funny to watch this fraud get buried under an avalanche of his own shit and it's only June. Can you imagine how much they have on him?
As opposed to a shitty sec state under a federal criminal investigation?
 

fskimospy

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As opposed to a shitty sec state under a federal criminal investigation?

Lol. Whatever you need to tell yourself. Notice how you talk about an investigation, but when we are talking about Trump the investigations are over and the fraud trials have begun. Fraud trials that are perfect examples of him conning ordinary people with the same promises he conned you with. At least for the Trump U people the scam was somewhat new. What's your excuse?
 

buckshot24

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Yeah, till Josh earnest tells the truth just as his boss endorses the first presidential candidate with an active fbi criminal investigation.
Did you see that video? He didn't seem very convincing to me, he doesn't believe what he was saying.