Trump University - a fraud according to students

[buckshot24]

Great, so why did you ask?

Are you going to answer?

 

[jackstar7]

Are you going to answer?

I thought I did. Was I not clear? I don't think either is worse.

 

[jackstar7]

I gotta say when protesters at trump rallies start burning the make america great again hats and start posting them online like dumb twats they make themselves look pretty bad.

Yeah. How dare people think America is great already.

 

[agent00f]

You're not great at maths, are you?

25.5 - 9 = 16.5mm.

It doesn't involve any tentative links at all. The link is no more than what is already there, we have seen her do this numerous times. Pay for play. Same with the guy who got on the nuke board.

It doesn't matter if it is profit, it is influence. Just because they donate to the CGI, or the WJCF, doesn't mean that BillyBob and HillBilly get all of the money, does it? No, but that money goes a long way to creating influence, bribes...etc

Let's see what type of attacks you've managed so far? You claim I don't know math, but you have utterly fucking failed at every aspect of math. Then you claim you're smarter, or that somebody is a redneck, if they don't agree with you. You aren't smart and not everybody is a redneck, as evidenced by the fact that you don't really have any good retort to anything other than *I'M SMARTER THAN YOU, YOU MEANIE!*. Your debate tactics are quite pathetic, which is why you can't win at anything but calling somebody stupid or a redneck.

Since you refuse to give up your prior account, then the only logical summary is that you're one of Hillary's paid shills, intended to go out on the internet and do this shit.

It's pretty obvious you can't figure out the difference between profit and revenue, or the difference between profit and non-profit.

Knowing the difference between X and not-X is important to making sense. Similar to the difference between 1 and 1000.

However, it's obvious you're not in the business of making sense, but rather that of mouthing off. Again, these are two different kind of things.

So let's be clear when I argue facts here I'm not trying to convince someone mouthing off of their veracity, only to show that they're *incapable* of working with factual reality. In other words these posts aren't really for you, but for folks with some functional sense who might actually learn something about politics.

 

[agent00f]

I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think anything about this payment as I've not read up on it, at all.
First you assume I am making an accusation then insult me for making an accusation I'm not making. What a swell addition to the forum you're becoming!

If you're been reading this thread, and there's preponderance of evidence you do, there was some discussion just prior about clinton's "university issue".

At this point I'm just saving everyone some time given you evidently don't seem to be in the habit of reading accusations against people you don't like carefully.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah. How dare people think America is great already.

Well, yeh, but bigotry & the Wall! will obviously restore us to our former glory.

Trumpsters are clearly pining for the Good old Days, the way it was in the 35 years after WW2. You know, back when we had strong unions, meaningful financial regulation & a tax system that actually discouraged wealth concentration. Back before we let our capitalists thrust us into a changing world market w/o sufficient compensation for loss of middle class economic power.

They have good reason to be angry, mostly with themselves because they voted for it while believing it to be something it's obviously not. That's the part they can't see, the part their own beliefs have played in... being played by Repub propagandists.

Trump? Nobody has ever played them harder.

 

[buckshot24]

If you're been reading this thread, and there's preponderance of evidence you do, there was some discussion just prior about clinton's "university issue".

Is this an apology? I have no idea what you're talking about and I certainly don't have an opinion on it. Instead of assuming I've made a conclusion, and then attack me for it, why don't you quit assuming things?

At this point I'm just saving everyone some time given you evidently don't seem to be in the habit of reading accusations against people you don't like carefully.

I haven't read anything about this situation let alone read it carefully. Just admit you assumed incorrectly and apologize, doubling down on dishonesty is never a good look.

Let me put it another way. I don't have any beliefs, whatsoever, about whatever it is you're babbling on about.

 

[jackstar7]

Hey jackstar7, Lets assume Trump paid off the AG as you believe. Is it worse to accept a bribe or to give a bribe?

Just wanted to follow-up: Why did you ask?

 

[agent00f]

Is this an apology? I have no idea what you're talking about and I certainly don't have an opinion on it. Instead of assuming I've made a conclusion, and then attack me for it, why don't you quit assuming things?

I haven't read anything about this situation let alone read it carefully. Just admit you assumed incorrectly and apologize, doubling down on dishonesty is never a good look.

Let me put it another way. I don't have any beliefs, whatsoever, about whatever it is you're babbling on about.

I made the inference that you read this thread and hold beliefs about the clintons demonstrated just above, both of which are relatively evident.

If you don't in fact read this thread nor readily believe tentative accusations against clinton, please make that clear because you can see how that would be confusing.

 

[buckshot24]

Just wanted to follow-up: Why did you ask?

To me, selling influence when you've been entrusted with power is worse than buying it. It appears that Hillary is in the habit of selling influence and Trump may be in the habit of buying it. The seller has proven that they cannot be entrusted with power and not abuse it.

 

[buckshot24]

I made the inference that you read this thread and hold beliefs about the clintons demonstrated just above, both of which are relatively evident.

If you don't in fact read this thread nor readily believe accusations against clinton, please make that clear because you can see how that would be confusing.

An "inference"? No, you assumed something without any justification and now want me to make it clear that you're wrong.

I've made it clear, now you can apologize.

 

[jackstar7]

To me, selling influence when you've been entrusted with power is worse than buying it. It appears that Hillary is in the habit of selling influence and Trump may be in the habit of buying it. The seller has proven that they cannot be entrusted with power and not abuse it.

I see both as awful and neither garner any lesser or greater degree of trust by their potentially criminal acts.

In the case of bribery, why consider either party less of a criminal and more trustworthy? Just seems counter-intuitive to me.


There is a long time between now and November to make up our minds. Hopefully it becomes more clear what the best path is by then.

 

[agent00f]

An "inference"? No, you assumed something without any justification and now want me to make it clear that you're wrong.

I've made it clear, now you can apologize.

Yes, with your active participation in this thread one can infer that you actually read it. If that isn't the case then I apologize for inferring that you read thread you mouth off in.

 

[buckshot24]

Yes, with your active participation in this thread one can infer that you actually read it. If that isn't the case then I apologize for inferring that you read thread you mouth off in.

You assumed I had a specific opinion on it!

 

[agent00f]

You assumed I had a specific opinion on it!

Yes, the same kind of opinion exhibited just above about clinton bribes. You see, when someone does something a lot people tend to assume they'll do it again.

You can clear up the kind of assumptions people have about you by actually reading the material in dispute and showing such assumptions to be incorrect.

 

[brycejones]

You assumed I had a specific opinion on it!

So you were just buckshatting.

 

[fskimospy]

I made the inference that you read this thread and hold beliefs about the clintons demonstrated just above, both of which are relatively evident.

If you don't in fact read this thread nor readily believe tentative accusations against clinton, please make that clear because you can see how that would be confusing.

You have a lot to learn in regards to buckshot

 

[Victorian Gray]

A lot of people are actively working to make it less great.

And you support one for president.

 

[Subyman]

Hey jackstar7, Lets assume Trump paid off the AG as you believe. Is it worse to accept a bribe or to give a bribe?

Both are crimes, so Trump would be a criminal if found guilty. As for which is worse, I'd say the official taking a bribe is worse ethically. However, giving a bribe to strip citizens of their right to an investigation is reprehensible and one of the ultimate exertions of upper class power. Truly morally corrupt.

 

[buckshot24]

Both are crimes, so Trump would be a criminal if found guilty. As for which is worse, I'd say the official taking a bribe is worse ethically. However, giving a bribe to strip citizens of their right to an investigation is reprehensible and one of the ultimate exertions of upper class power. Truly morally corrupt.

Agreed.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

During sworn testimony in the Trump University lawsuit, Donald Trump repeatedly said he couldn't recall specific claims, documents or events related to the case, prompting a lawyer for the plaintiffs to ask if the real estate mogul considered himself to have “one of the best memories in the world.”
In response, Trump said he feels he has a “good” or a “great” memory, but doesn’t recall claiming it’s one of the world’s best, according to hours of previously unreleased testimony where Trump was questioned by plaintiff’s lawyer Jason Forge.
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“So you don't remember saying that you have one of the best memories in the world?” Forge asked.
“I remember you telling me, but I don't know that I said it,” Trump replied.

Three weeks earlier, during a conversation about 9/11 with NBC News reporter Katy Tur, Trump had said he had “the world’s best memory,”

hmm either drumpf is a pathological liar OR

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-university-memory-224712

 

[fskimospy]

hmm either drumpf is a pathological liar OR

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-university-memory-224712

This was my favorite part: (note: Forge and Trump did not have breakfast together)

“It would be false for me to say that you and I had breakfast together this morning; right?” Forge asked.

“Yes, it's sort of false. It would depend on how you meant it, how you said it,” Trump replied. “We sort of had lunch together."

Remember all those people who were enraged about the 'what the meaning of is is' when Bill Clinton said it? Trump here is saying that someone saying something they both explicitly know to not be true is only 'sort of false'. It just shows that the conservatives that have said Hillary is a liar for years never actually cared about honesty.

Shocking.

 

[Brainonska511]

Trump settles the series of lawsuits for $25 million.
http://nyti.ms/2eOWdpr

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

drumpf is totally innocent to the tune of 25 million
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/18/news/trump-university-settlement/index.html?adkey=bn

he is such a fucking coward

The deal will keep the president-elect from having to testify in a trial in San Diego that was set to begin November 28

And he said

"This is a case I could have settled very easily, but I don't settle cases very easily when I'm right," he said in March.

 

[dawp]

settling is one thing, actually paying up I'm not so sure about. He could still drag this out for years.