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Trump Trashes U.S. to defend Putin - O'Reilly SB Interview

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WelshBloke said:
With Trump it could just as easily be something shallow like he started supporting Putin out of contrariness and continued out of stubbornness!
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I bet a lot of his supporters are the same way. No matter what he does, they won't admit it because then the evil libruhls would be right. Or they'll say someone else would have been worse ("b-b-b-but Benghazi!!!")
 
His defense of a murderer is by saying so what, lots of people are murderers, do you think we're so innocent?

How does that not sound off alarm bells? This is not a "new normal" we're adapting to. It's a dangerous lack of respect for humanity.
 
interchange said:
His defense of a murderer is by saying so what, lots of people are murderers, do you think we're so innocent?

How does that not sound off alarm bells? This is not a "new normal" we're adapting to. It's a dangerous lack of respect for humanity.
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What's alarming is that the things that Putin gets away with obviously appeals to Trump.

Locking up political opponents, having a tame press, controling the judiciary...
 
Londo_Jowo said:
No doubt had Trump said this 10 years ago the left would have cheered him on just like they did when Wikileaks released the info Manning sent to them showing the US had blood on their hands.
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That's your best defense? Don't fuck around, your just rimming the surface. Stick your tongue in deeper.
 
WelshBloke said:
What's alarming is that the things that Putin gets away with obviously appeals to Trump.

Locking up political opponents, having a tame press, controling the judiciary...
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This is why he looks up to Putin. He's really upset he can't do the same things here.
 
HomerJS said:
That's your best defense? Don't fuck around, your just rimming the surface. Stick your tongue in deeper.
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You know damn well the left loved blaming Bush/Cheney for having blood on their hands. The left wanted both tried for war crimes. Funny when Trump feels the same as the left it's an outrage.

Outrage overload is just around the corner, people will begin ignoring all the outrage.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
No doubt had Trump said this 10 years ago the left would have cheered him on just like they did when Wikileaks released the info Manning sent to them showing the US had blood on their hands.
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Trump said stupid stuff like this years ago and I despised him back then as well.

And believe it or not there is a huge chunk of us leftists that despise Manning and what he did. A common and stupid fallacy among so-called conservatives is that they are the only patriots. Get a clue, you are not even though you guys delight in wrapping yourselves with the flag and wearing flag pins.
 
Thump553 said:
Trump said stupid stuff like this years ago and I despised him back then as well.

And believe it or not there is a huge chunk of us leftists that despise Manning and what he did. A common and stupid fallacy among so-called conservatives is that they are the only patriots. Get a clue, you are not even though you guys delight in wrapping yourselves with the flag and wearing flag pins.
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Not claiming to be anything, just stating an opinion that more than few on the left on this forum would have cheered on Trump's statement of the US having blood on their hands.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Not claiming to be anything, just stating an opinion that more than few on the left on this forum would have cheered on Trump's statement of the US having blood on their hands.
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I think you're right about that. This surfaced a lot when I called out folks for failing to vilify Russia for their activities during the election. Our guilt is blinding us.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Not claiming to be anything, just stating an opinion that more than few on the left on this forum would have cheered on Trump's statement of the US having blood on their hands.
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your opinion of what you think your opponents opinion "would have been". you have literally done that repeatedly in this thread, do you really not see the problem there?
 
alien42 said:
your opinion of what you think your opponents opinion "would have been". you have literally done that repeatedly in this thread, do you really not see the problem there?
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Go back to when Bush was President, many on the left in this forum would have cheered on his statement about the country having blood on it's hands. They claimed the same many times.
 
destey said:
I haven't been in this forum in a while, but last time I checked it was informative, issue based and mature. It has slid a long way with posts like the above being commonplace.
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What would you characterize as inaccurate in my admittedly triggered post?
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Go back to when Bush was President, many on the left in this forum would have cheered on his statement about the country having blood on it's hands. They claimed the same many times.
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Of course the US has blood on its hands and, yes, Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes. That however, does not excuse Putin nor does it justify Trump's equivocation and Trump's boot licking.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Go back to when Bush was President, many on the left in this forum would have cheered on his statement about the country having blood on it's hands. They claimed the same many times.
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None of them, of course, is the President of the United States, much less a Republican President of the United States. You may accuse people of outrage overload, but I would accuse you of being considerably too relaxed about the situation in which we find ourselves. These are scary times, and President Trump is a scary man.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
You know damn well the left loved blaming Bush/Cheney for having blood on their hands. The left wanted both tried for war crimes. Funny when Trump feels the same as the left it's an outrage.

Outrage overload is just around the corner, people will begin ignoring all the outrage.
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We never used it to excuse the actions of a dictator.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
None of them, of course, is the President of the United States, much less a Republican President of the United States. You may accuse people of outrage overload, but I would accuse you of being considerably too relaxed about the situation in which we find ourselves. These are scary times, and President Trump is a scary man.
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The scariest part is the headset of his devotees. They didn't get that way by accident but rather through decades of relentless & poisonous right wing agitprop.

The Repub leadership built this, make no mistake. Honest & decent people have tried to warn them, to dissuade them from creating this base for a leadership cult. We said you're fooling around with something you won't be able to control, with forces best never summoned from the depths of human nature. They laughed it off until Trump stepped up to lead the mob.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
None of them, of course, is the President of the United States, much less a Republican President of the United States. You may accuse people of outrage overload, but I would accuse you of being considerably too relaxed about the situation in which we find ourselves. These are scary times, and President Trump is a scary man.
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Oh cmon, it's totally normal for one of the most litigious persons in US history, and President of the United States, to act completely ignorant of constitutional checks and balances, and of our system of legal due process, when he doesn't get his way, and to take to twitter to publicly rant about it. Totally normal.
 
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