Trump Trashes U.S. to defend Putin - O'Reilly SB Interview

[Hayabusa Rider]

This in no way excuses Putin in any way but this the one occasion where Trump actually has a point. We've had our hands in other nations with deadly results and little to no justification in many instances. Same if Hillary or anyone else had admitted it.

 

[MajinCry]

This in no way excuses Putin in any way but this the one occasion where Trump actually has a point. We've had our hands in other nations with deadly results and little to no justification in many instances. Same if Hillary or anyone else had admitted it.

Was just going to post about that; this is probably the most honest Trump has been, outside of proudly admitting to his rapacious past.

Hell, I can name four of the US' homeboys off the top of my had. Pinochet, Gaddafi, Saddam, and Batista. Anybody care to expand that list?

 

[evident]

Why does this fucking traitor go out of his fucking way, every fucking time, to defend this thug.
Thanks America, we are not exceptional anymore, because we voted for this dumbass. Just like Putin said many years ago. Fuck

 

[fskimospy]

This in no way excuses Putin in any way but this the one occasion where Trump actually has a point. We've had our hands in other nations with deadly results and little to no justification in many instances. Same if Hillary or anyone else had admitted it.

But why would Trump bring this up in the context of whether or not to criticize Putin? It makes absolutely no sense.

If Obama said the same thing conservatives would have lost their minds.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

But why would Trump bring this up in the context of whether or not to criticize Putin? It makes absolutely no sense.

If Obama said the same thing conservatives would have lost their minds.

Sense and truth are not always the same thing. There is no defense of Putin as we know and few of us would agree with him in context. No disagreement on that, but many people look at us as the guiding moral compass of the world, and reality suggests that's more delusion than reality.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I can't even...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-countrys-so-innocent/?utm_term=.c6ddca6628e1



For a moment, you defenders of this prick, imagine if Obama or Clinton said this plainly and publicly. How quickly would you be demanding hearings, investigations, impeachment?

I'd ask you to be honest, but I know I can't get blood from stones.

I agree the Putin/Trump relationship is a worrisome one and the right has gone off the deep end defending this shite. Better relations with Russia is a good thing and something that should be pursued (Hillary tried as well, remember the reset button) but there's better relations and there's letting Puting get everything he wants and not being held accountable for anything. Trump's love affair with him could potentially put the US and our allies in a dangerous position.

 

[woolfe9998]

Sense and truth are not always the same thing. There is no defense of Putin as we know and few of us would agree with him in context. No disagreement on that, but many people look at us as the guiding moral compass of the world, and reality suggests that's more delusion than reality.

When did any POTUS have his domestic political opponents killed? The distinction between this and deaths outside our borders which may be caused by foreign policy is immense, because one is a threat to the core of democracy and the other is not. One can happen in a democracy that strays into bad foreign policy. The other can only happen in a dictatorship.

Maybe it's just time to stop making excuses for Trump's anti-democratic attitudes, including the praising of foreign dictators?

 

[m8d]

 

[VRAMdemon]

So now Trump is agreeing with critical-theory political scientists, neo-Marxist human geographers, and leftist historians that the US post-colonial hegemony continues earlier incarnations of the world system in which the US intervened militarily and in less overt applications of power to further its questionable goals in cahoots with unsavory local leaders, perpetuating violence, socioeconomic inequality, and loss of human rights. Strange bedfellows.

 

[woolfe9998]

So now Trump is agreeing with critical-theory political scientists, neo-Marxist human geographers, and leftist historians that the US post-colonial hegemony continues earlier incarnations of the world system in which the US intervened militarily and in less overt applications of power to further its questionable goals in cahoots with unsavory local leaders, perpetuating violence, socioeconomic inequality, and loss of human rights. Strange bedfellows.

None of those categories of theorists praise rulers who purge domestic opposition. Trump is making an apples to oranges comparison.

 

[Thump553]

This in no way excuses Putin in any way but this the one occasion where Trump actually has a point. We've had our hands in other nations with deadly results and little to no justification in many instances. Same if Hillary or anyone else had admitted it.

Putin offs reporters and dissidents in his country with alarming regularity. Just this week one of the leading dissidents was poisoned for the second time in Russia. The last time around was two years ago. The dissident lived in the USA with a green card and had dual Russian//British citizenship. Britain and the US moved heaven and earth to get him out of Russia for medical treatment the last time, including personal efforts by the Sec of State. This time around I'm sure the poor guy is going to be left stranded high and dry with no action by the USA.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/europe/putin-critic-vladimir-kara-murza-poison/

No USA president has ever ordered anything remotely like that.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

When did any POTUS have his domestic political opponents killed? The distinction between this and deaths outside our borders which may be caused by foreign policy is immense, because one is a threat to the core of democracy and the other is not. One can happen in a democracy that strays into bad foreign policy. The other can only happen in a dictatorship.

Maybe it's just time to stop making excuses for Trump's anti-democratic attitudes, including the praising of foreign dictators?

Hey be my guest. I haven't made one excuse for him. He's terrible. As far as people outside the US? If innocent there's little moral high ground to be had. Now if Trump or any President were to try to kill the press it is us as the people who do not allow it. Russia has never been in that situation to prevent such things. There's nothing good with Trump but we have a history of killing those who we disfavor and as far as the rest of the world goes there's no excuse. Time to own it all, Trump and more.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Putin offs reporters and dissidents in his country with alarming regularity. Just this week one of the leading dissidents was poisoned for the second time in Russia. The last time around was two years ago. The dissident lived in the USA with a green card and had dual Russian//British citizenship. Britain and the US moved heaven and earth to get him out of Russia for medical treatment the last time, including personal efforts by the Sec of State. This time around I'm sure the poor guy is going to be left stranded high and dry with no action by the USA.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/europe/putin-critic-vladimir-kara-murza-poison/

No USA president has ever ordered anything remotely like that.

No they haven't but that doesn't mean we haven't done our share of evil.

 

[Jhhnn]

If Obama said the same thing conservatives would have lost their minds.

We'd have to peel them off the ceiling. That's because right wing propagandists can't attack Trump the way they could Obama. Trump just grabs the mic & pushes 'em into the orchestra pit as the Repub base goes wild.

Check out McConnell's reaction-

http://www.businessinsider.com/jake-tapper-mitch-mcconnell-trump-putin-defense-2017-2

 

[brycejones]

There must be high def video of the pee pee party.

 

[trenchfoot]

I know there are millions of folks out there who now regret voting for Trumputin and hey, what's done is done.

But every time Trump defends Putin, and every time his numerous lies get debunked, and every time he fills a cabinet position with another notorious Wall Streeter from Goldman Sachs, or a known associate of Putin, or any of those other DC swamp critters he PROMISED he was going to get rid of but instead is now in bed with, well, I think the folks who didn't vote for him are owed an apology by those who did because this guy Trump is in it for himself and by way of economic status, any other billionaire just like him, and screw those worthless parasitic peasants of whom they lord over.

He's going to prove beyond doubt how ruinous it is for the middle class and the poor of our nation as he pursues the classic Reganomic Principles of "Economic Prosperity" that those idiots from the Repub base have been brainwashed to believe in.

But then I thought Bush and Cheney already proved that way beyond doubt, so who am I to say?

Someday in the future, I'd like it very much if we could go over Trump's tax papers with a fine tooth comb. It would explain a lot toward the decisions he's now making that on the face of it, looks like he's selling the nation out to swell his portfolios beyond belief. Because as many Repubs like to make a point of irt privacy, if Trump's got nothing to hide then what's the problem?

 

[Bitek]

What disturbs me about Trump is that he can sometimes be interpreted to aluding to secret information he is privileged to have due to his office. He can come off acting like he is letting us in on it with a wink, as if he's doing is a favor.

But really this is highly damaging, to us as well as himself. Such foolish words.

Remember how pissed the right got at "America's chickens have come home to roost"? Obama didn't even say it, at least heard someone say it as we had a meltdown. I'm not expecting similar condemnation.

 

[Bitek]

No they haven't but that doesn't mean we haven't done our share of evil.

Comparisons to the US are absurd. Let's revisit when we have Obama poisoning Romney with radiation or have Trump imprisoned for tax fraud and takes all his assets, or just outright guns him down.

As far as wrong acts... Name a major power who hasn't. Not that it's okay, but this is consistent human behavior.

How is at all helpful to have the president equivocating ourselves to Russia?

 

[destey]

Why does this fucking traitor go out of his fucking way, every fucking time, to defend this thug.
Thanks America, we are not exceptional anymore, because we voted for this dumbass. Just like Putin said many years ago. Fuck

I haven't been in this forum in a while, but last time I checked it was informative, issue based and mature. It has slid a long way with posts like the above being commonplace.

 

[agent00f]

I haven't been in this forum in a while, but last time I checked it was informative, issue based and mature. It has slid a long way with posts like the above being commonplace.

How would you restate the point and what difference would it make?

 

[Bitek]

I haven't been in this forum in a while, but last time I checked it was informative, issue based and mature. It has slid a long way with posts like the above being commonplace.

Thanks Trump!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No doubt had Trump said this 10 years ago the left would have cheered him on just like they did when Wikileaks released the info Manning sent to them showing the US had blood on their hands.

 

[momeNt]

Has ISIS reached Nazi Germany levels of worldwide threat that "teaming" up with Russia should be considered at this point? Stalin was by all accounts, much worse than Putin, but we did hold our nose and coordinated, albeit warily, with him, we even supplied them arms and funding. All the while knowing that they were the second biggest threat in the world at the time.

 

[dank69]

I know there are millions of folks out there who now regret voting for Trumputin and hey, what's done is done.

But every time Trump defends Putin, and every time his numerous lies get debunked, and every time he fills a cabinet position with another notorious Wall Streeter from Goldman Sachs, or a known associate of Putin, or any of those other DC swamp critters he PROMISED he was going to get rid of but instead is now in bed with, well, I think the folks who didn't vote for him are owed an apology by those who did because this guy Trump is in it for himself and by way of economic status, any other billionaire just like him, and screw those worthless parasitic peasants of whom they lord over.

He's going to prove beyond doubt how ruinous it is for the middle class and the poor of our nation as he pursues the classic Reganomic Principles of "Economic Prosperity" that those idiots from the Repub base have been brainwashed to believe in.

But then I thought Bush and Cheney already proved that way beyond doubt, so who am I to say?

Someday in the future, I'd like it very much if we could go over Trump's tax papers with a fine tooth comb. It would explain a lot toward the decisions he's now making that on the face of it, looks like he's selling the nation out to swell his portfolios beyond belief. Because as many Repubs like to make a point of irt privacy, if Trump's got nothing to hide then what's the problem?

Why would they regret voting for Trump? Democrats made them do it. The GOP has zero responsibility for anything bad, ever.

 

[WelshBloke]

My best guess is that Trump has a ton of Russian money invested in his businesses, just like his son said some years back.

With Trump it could just as easily be something shallow like he started supporting Putin out of contrariness and continued out of stubbornness!