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Trump taxes

He still won't release them is he doing a Mitt Romney thing and editing the filings so he pays more or is he simply being pig headed?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

Obama should Troll Trump and issue a Presidential Pardon for any tax filing issues for Mr. Trump. Would we then see the returns?

Hey Fanatical Meat,

I seriously doubt that we will see any of his tax returns before the General Election. He is afraid of disclosing information about his ventures to the public.
 
I am not a Trump supporter, and I don't blame him for not wanting to release his taxes. No matter how much he paid or didn't pay, someone will find something in there to harass him about. Its really a no-win situation for him.
I bet he paid the full taxes he owes, with some accounting tricks, but because of our tax laws are setup with benefits for stockholders (something Warren Buffett says all the time), he won't have paid an effective rate nearly as much as most middle-class ratepayers.
 
I am not a Trump supporter, and I don't blame him for not wanting to release his taxes. No matter how much he paid or didn't pay, someone will find something in there to harass him about. Its really a no-win situation for him.
I bet he paid the full taxes he owes, with some accounting tricks, but because of our tax laws are setup with benefits for stockholders (something Warren Buffett says all the time), he won't have paid an effective rate nearly as much as most middle-class ratepayers.

My guess is that he doesn't want to release them because they will show substantially less income than he typically boasts about. That would be pretty embarrassing.
 
Every Candidate since Mitt Romney's Father has submitted them to prove everything is clean and no conflict of interests.


In fact, this reaches back to 1952, when Nixon goaded Adlai Stevenson and runningmate Sen. John Sparkman into releasing their financial information by saying Americans wanted a president who had the "confidence" of all people.

Ironically, Nixon never released his tax records prior to the 1952 election (and neither did Eisenhower), but Nixon did release four years of tax returns later while in office after facing additional questions over his finances.
 
Maybe Mitt should troll like he was trolled

Trump has resisted pressure from Democrats and forces within his own party -- most notably 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney -- who have called on him to release tax returns.

I've heard Donald hasn't paid any taxes for many, many years...
 
Why do you feel entitled to that information?

In an election where the theme seems to be about corruption and the establishment, releasing ones taxes would seem like an important thing to have in order for an angry public to properly vet a presidential candidate, don't you think?
 
Why do you feel entitled to that information?
Because before he announced his candidacy, Trump made a big deal of how impressive his financials were, and stated that he would release his tax returns:
HH: Yeah, you’re not shy. Let me ask you this. On the day you declare, how many years of tax returns will you release?
DT: Well, I’d certainly go over tax returns, and I will tell you nobody knows the tax return business or world better than me. And you have to understand, I’m a businessman, and I work for myself. And I have a phenomenal net worth, and a lot of cash and very little debt, and you’d see that. And actually, I did that, you know, I’m the only candidate in history that actually submitted his financials the last time, and I didn’t run. I actually submitted my financials, because to be honest with you, I’m very proud of my financials.
HH: But I mean, would you actually…
DT: And my financials now are much better.
HH: Would you release tax returns, though?
DT: I would release tax returns, and I would also explain to people that as a person that’s looking to make money, you know, I’m in the business of making money until I do this. And if I won, I would make money for our country. I would make so much money for our country that they wouldn’t have to cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, that we would be able to have a strong, we would take the jobs back from China. We’d take the jobs back from Mexico. I don’t know if you know, the new great abuser in this country is Mexico. They’re taking our jobs, they’re killing us on the border. People are just fleeing across Mexico. If you want to become a citizen of Mexico, do you know it’s probably the hardest or one of the hardest nations in the world to become a citizen of? And yet they let people flow across their borders, and they push them through our border, because we don’t know what we’re doing.
HH: I got it, but I want to stay focused on the tax returns. How many years back?
DT: So the answer is yeah, I would do it.
HH: Three years? Five years?
DT: I mean, I would do something, but I will tell you up front, as a private person, Hugh, I would be, and you know, I’m very proud of this. I want to pay as little taxes as I can as a private person.
HH: Of course. Of course. That’s the American way, legally.
DT: You know, why should I be, why should I say I’m looking to pay a fortune in tax? It’s part of the complexity of the tax system.
HH: How many years back would you go on the day you announce? Three? Five?
DT: Oh, I don’t know. I mean, I actually have not even thought of that, but I would certainly show tax returns if it was necessary.
HH: At least a couple of years?
DT: Well, what have they been doing? They’ve been really doing one year, other than people that never made anything. But I would certainly, I’m very proud of what I’ve done. I do pay tax. But I’m very proud of what I did. I will say this. You will see piles and piles and piles of paper stacked many feet into the air, because the system is so complex that it’s disgraceful. And the tax system does have to be changed.
HH: That’s what I, you know, I think two or three years would be great. I think anyone, if you did two or three years…
DT:But we’ll take a good, strong look at that, Hugh. I mean, it’s obviously not something I thought of, but you know, I’ve given any real thought to, but I have no objection to certainly showing tax returns.
So, Mr. Cubby, do you feel that we, the electorate, should insist that candidates follow through with promises they make to the electorate, promises that they can EASILY keep?

This is yet another example where Trump has gone back on earlier statements. It's now abundantly clear that Trump has no intention of releasing ANY tax return at all, even tax returns from earlier years that are not being audited. Does that make you the least bit uncomfortable with Trump?

How many times does Trump have reverse himself on what he's said in recent history before people know for sure that he totally cannot be trusted to do ANYTHING that he says he'll do? If he cannot follow through on a simple promise that is completely within his power to keep, why would anyone believe his statements about what he would try to do as President?
 
Because before he announced his candidacy, Trump made a big deal of how impressive his financials were, and stated that he would release his tax returns:

So, Mr. Cubby, do you feel that we, the electorate, should insist that candidates follow through with promises they make to the electorate, promises that they can EASILY keep?

This is yet another example where Trump has gone back on earlier statements. It's now abundantly clear that Trump has no intention of releasing ANY tax return at all, even tax returns from earlier years that are not being audited. Does that make you the least bit uncomfortable with Trump?

How many times does Trump have reverse himself on what he's said in recent history before people know for sure that he totally cannot be trusted to do ANYTHING that he says he'll do? If he cannot follow through on a simple promise that is completely within his power to keep, why would anyone believe his statements about what he would try to do as President?

It doesn't matter. Republican supporters don't care about the facts, they never have and they never will. The GOP has been manufacturing an altered reality now for half a century and it has built in protections that simply reinforce that reality. They've picked their candidate and they will stick with him because the party comes before the country. They will support their party if it means burning the country to the ground, this is not new.

All we can do is let it play out and hope that a majority of voting Americans haven't been sucked into the bubble.
 
Because before he announced his candidacy, Trump made a big deal of how impressive his financials were, and stated that he would release his tax returns:

So, Mr. Cubby, do you feel that we, the electorate, should insist that candidates follow through with promises they make to the electorate, promises that they can EASILY keep?

This is yet another example where Trump has gone back on earlier statements. It's now abundantly clear that Trump has no intention of releasing ANY tax return at all, even tax returns from earlier years that are not being audited. Does that make you the least bit uncomfortable with Trump?

How many times does Trump have reverse himself on what he's said in recent history before people know for sure that he totally cannot be trusted to do ANYTHING that he says he'll do? If he cannot follow through on a simple promise that is completely within his power to keep, why would anyone believe his statements about what he would try to do as President?

What is any candidate releasing their tax returns going to do for me? Realistically I'm not going to look at them. I'm not going to pay any attention to media reports on them. You will not pay any attention either other than if a joke is made for laughs.

No, this does not make me the least bit uncomfortable with Trump.
 
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I don't think anybody actually cares about his taxes. The only reason people cared about Romney's taxes was Romney is ashamed to be rich. Trump makes his wealth a key talking point in his campaign.
 
of course it doesn't, you're as partisan as they get and thoroughly proved it in this thread.

Has any candidates tax return changed your opinion of them? Or made you vote or not vote for them? It is a nice gesture. But releasing tax information is really just pointless. Nobodys mind is made up over taxes. I'd venture a guess very few even factor it when deciding a candidate.

I suspect Eskimospy is correct. Trump doesn't want to release information that would make it look like he made less than advertised.
 
How many times does Trump have reverse himself on what he's said in recent history before people know for sure that he totally cannot be trusted to do ANYTHING that he says he'll do? If he cannot follow through on a simple promise that is completely within his power to keep, why would anyone believe his statements about what he would try to do as President?

When you say "Trump", which personality are you talking about? The "entertainer" or the "more presidential" or a different one?

I think he is confounded about Womens Cards, and simply can not switch personalities on the fly.
 
I don't think anybody actually cares about his taxes. The only reason people cared about Romney's taxes was Romney is ashamed to be rich. Trump makes his wealth a key talking point in his campaign.

Yeah its a good line for his gullible followers. However when you have a candidate running on reforming the tax law as Romney was, it's kinda helpful to see what tax advantages he's using and whether or not his plans would affect him.

But yeah its use to shame the rich because we all know, trump is capable of feeling shame, especially shame that comes from being rich. Lol sure
 
I don't think anybody actually cares about his taxes. The only reason people cared about Romney's taxes was Romney is ashamed to be rich. Trump makes his wealth a key talking point in his campaign.

I care about Trump's taxes for two reasons. First, they might show that he makes a lot less than he claims, which would be a huge blow to his sales pitch as the ultimate American success story. A guy who is so independently wealthy that he can't be influenced by DC money.

The second reason is simply because he said he would, and people need to keep promises. Especially if they're running for president. Especially if they want to call people names like "Lyin' Ted"

Has any candidates tax return changed your opinion of them? Or made you vote or not vote for them? It is a nice gesture. But releasing tax information is really just pointless. Nobodys mind is made up over taxes. I'd venture a guess very few even factor it when deciding a candidate.

I suspect Eskimospy is correct. Trump doesn't want to release information that would make it look like he made less than advertised.

I thought it was pretty revealing when Mitt Romney reduced his charitable deductions before releasing his return. It seemed like a tacit admission that there are problems with the tax code. But in fairness to your question, no, I was not going to vote for Romney no matter what his return said.
 
Has any candidates tax return changed your opinion of them? Or made you vote or not vote for them? It is a nice gesture. But releasing tax information is really just pointless. Nobodys mind is made up over taxes. I'd venture a guess very few even factor it when deciding a candidate.

I suspect Eskimospy is correct. Trump doesn't want to release information that would make it look like he made less than advertised.

I don't know about you but no one single is a deal breaker for me. If it was, there would never be anyone to vote for.
 
of course it doesn't, you're as partisan as they get and thoroughly proved it in this thread.

Nope. I would be outed as a partisan if, for example, I was interested in Clinton's tax returns and all the potential baggage that might be exposed relating to the Clinton Foundation.

Please point me to such a thread topic where I stated interested in the financials of Democratic candidates.
 
This. He's flopping around like a trout out of the stream. He's on record as praising Hillary and defending her re: her vote on the Iraq war. And look at him now.

Because before he announced his candidacy, Trump made a big deal of how impressive his financials were, and stated that he would release his tax returns:

So, Mr. Cubby, do you feel that we, the electorate, should insist that candidates follow through with promises they make to the electorate, promises that they can EASILY keep?

This is yet another example where Trump has gone back on earlier statements. It's now abundantly clear that Trump has no intention of releasing ANY tax return at all, even tax returns from earlier years that are not being audited. Does that make you the least bit uncomfortable with Trump?

How many times does Trump have reverse himself on what he's said in recent history before people know for sure that he totally cannot be trusted to do ANYTHING that he says he'll do? If he cannot follow through on a simple promise that is completely within his power to keep, why would anyone believe his statements about what he would try to do as President?

Speaking of altered reality, you do realize that his support spans party lines and there are even some Bernie supporters that claim they'll vote for Trump over Hillary. And there are PLENTY of people in the GOP that don't want him and are also considering a vote for Hillary to be the lesser of 2 evils. But none of those facts penetrate that concrete skull protecting that 1 functional brain cell that you have left.

I'm probably voting libertarian this fall as I'll probably barf up a lung if I attempt to voter for either of those two freaks.

And you, dear Ivy continue to shine as an example of why legalizing drugs may be a bad idea.

It doesn't matter. Republican supporters don't care about the facts, they never have and they never will. The GOP has been manufacturing an altered reality now for half a century and it has built in protections that simply reinforce that reality. They've picked their candidate and they will stick with him because the party comes before the country. They will support their party if it means burning the country to the ground, this is not new.

All we can do is let it play out and hope that a majority of voting Americans haven't been sucked into the bubble.
 
It doesn't matter. Republican supporters don't care about the facts, they never have and they never will. The GOP has been manufacturing an altered reality now for half a century and it has built in protections that simply reinforce that reality. They've picked their candidate and they will stick with him because the party comes before the country. They will support their party if it means burning the country to the ground, this is not new.

All we can do is let it play out and hope that a majority of voting Americans haven't been sucked into the bubble.

Remember when Black Lives Matter protests actually inspired people to actually burn a city to the ground? Yet people still support BLM 😉

So, I mean, if literally burning the country to the ground is not sufficient reason to stop supporting a cause, why should figuratively burning the country to the ground be sufficient reason?
 
Nope. I would be outed as a partisan if, for example, I was interested in Clinton's tax returns and all the potential baggage that might be exposed relating to the Clinton Foundation.

Please point me to such a thread topic where I stated interested in the financials of Democratic candidates.

Just a point of fact but Clinton already released about thirty years of taxes. Now can you make a similar claim with regards to hillarys transcripts for her paid speeches?
 
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