Trump slams NATO allies at 9/11 Memorial Dedication

[edcoolio]

remember NATO? The ones who went to war in Afghanistan after 9/11? Losing hundreds of their soldiers?

Apparently he makes a quip about not asking how much the new headquarters cost but goes after members about paying their dues. Classy.

The OP correctly stated that NATO lost hundreds of soldiers in Afghanistan and declared war. Unfortunately, the numbers show a different reality of how countries define "war". Their contributions in both blood and treasure vary, as does their ability and will to put their soldiers in harm's way. Montenegro, for example, may be small but their war deaths are a grand total of 1. Not exactly a shining example of allowing your soldiers to fight after declaring war with the rest of NATO.

Classy or not, looking at the numbers, it is obvious that the NATO forces doing most of the fighting were English speaking commonwealths or former colonies. The United States, The United Kingdom, and Canada make up the bulk of the forces - and the deaths.

Canada alone (pop. 36 m.) had more deaths (158) due to direct NATO action in Afghanistan than both Germany (pop. 81.5 m.) and France (pop. 67 m.) combined (158).

The United States accounted for 2,271 deaths out of a total of 3,407 deaths in Afghanistan.

(All of the data is publicly available, with differing exact numbers, so I used these figures.)

As an aside, I am an American Citizen who is confident and respectful. I feel no shame whatsoever traveling overseas, and neither should you, at any time. Perhaps some would do well with a class or two in self confidence... just sayin'.

 

[agent00f]

about 6 minutes in, cause i ff the coffee making thing..

"[looks like] its really messed up, did our president just push some man to the back? - allthough it looked kind of cool, hihi, if you are a fan and you like his persona"

Also, 150 views.. 0roo0roo, is that you? ... It has to be or close proximity... damn boy.

It's Scott Adams, the cartoonist who pretended he wasn't all about the Donald when he literally says "it looked kind of cool, if you are a fan and you like his persona... it was cool".

0roo0roo types are pretty incompetent at lying for how much they do it.

 

[brandonbull]

For a guy getting shoved out of the way unexpectedly, he seems to be in good humor about it. I'm guessing that a PM of a country is not used to being pushed unexpectedly, so for his initial reaction is to crack a smile instead of making a weird face suggests something other than malice.

 

[Grooveriding]

Myopia on display there. It shows the shoved individual was an adult with poise and self-control, making him able to react as such to the behaviour of an adult with the temperament of a child. There is no real mystery to it. Trump is a piece of shit and all round lousy human being. This whole event was a sad display of adults having to deal with a boorish manchild in the room. If Trump had an iota of self-awareness, he'd have been taking notes on how to conduct himself.

All around he continued to do a grade A job of making America the laughing stock of the world. Elect a piece of shit degenerate and this is what you get. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[sandorski]

For a guy getting shoved out of the way unexpectedly, he seems to be in good humor about it. I'm guessing that a PM of a country is not used to being pushed unexpectedly, so for his initial reaction is to crack a smile instead of making a weird face suggests something other than malice.

WTF? You are touched, aren't you?

The PM certainly thought things were jovial/ok, Trump clearly thought otherwise.

 

[cytg111]

For a guy getting shoved out of the way unexpectedly, he seems to be in good humor about it. I'm guessing that a PM of a country is not used to being pushed unexpectedly, so for his initial reaction is to crack a smile instead of making a weird face suggests something other than malice.

Isnt he they guy that gets accepted into NATO in a weeks time? His behavior makes sense I think.
I will grant you that it would be nice to see more of the clip, with audio too to get the full context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iimj0j4NYME
The best I can find, I cant hear him being called forward .. theres a shoot but noone is shooting yet so, really...

 

[TheVrolok]

As an aside, I am an American Citizen who is confident and respectful. I feel no shame whatsoever traveling overseas, and neither should you, at any time. Perhaps some would do well with a class or two in self confidence... just sayin'.

lol, looks like you're missing the point. Additionally, like Trump, you seem to think having self confidence and showing some humility at times is mutually exclusive.

 

[agent00f]

For a guy getting shoved out of the way unexpectedly, he seems to be in good humor about it. I'm guessing that a PM of a country is not used to being pushed unexpectedly, so for his initial reaction is to crack a smile instead of making a weird face suggests something other than malice.

Unlike american conservatives, civilized people are aware intl diplomacy isn't just feudin' in the hills.

 

[soundforbjt]

Trump has zero class, there's a reason he's shunned in NY society.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I can't wait until those European moochers meet their military spending obligations so America can slash its bloated defense budget. Wait, nevermind, Russia is a decaying power with the GDP of Italy, they're no threat at all. No, wait, Russia is a superpower posed to prey on poor, defenseless Europe. Don't cross the narrative streams.

 

[edcoolio]

lol, looks like you're missing the point. Additionally, like Trump, you seem to think having self confidence and showing some humility at times is mutually exclusive.

No.

It is you who have missed the point. Completely.

People were stating that they felt ashamed to be American overseas, to the point of pretending to be from another country. That has nothing to do with humility and everything to do with a lack of self-confidence. For example, if someone has self-confidence, they could easily say they were American and have humility about a particular subject or political point of view.

Also, Trump was never mentioned. I'm not sure from where the subconscious need to tie each and every comment to the President originates, but there it is.

 

[edcoolio]

I can't wait until those European moochers meet their military spending obligations so America can slash its bloated defense budget. Wait, nevermind, Russia is a decaying power with the GDP of Italy, they're no threat at all. No, wait, Russia is a superpower posed to prey on poor, defenseless Europe. Don't cross the narrative streams.

The issue with President Trump and Russia is greatly troubling, as Russia is the only country on the planet that could engage the west (and the United States) in all-out war with the possibility of victory and guarantee of destruction.

For example, the Russians have more strategic nuclear warheads, active, than the United States and a greater number overall of nuclear warheads in general.

Russia is a weak economic power, dependant on commodities export while having the second most powerful military.

 

[0roo0roo]

So you do think that YouTube opinions count as evidence.

You do realize that virtually no one here ever actually believes what you say, right? That you post videos that people either don't watch at all or don't take seriously? And that your tendency to almost always lean on videos instead of composing your own write-up suggests that you don't really formulate your own views, you just swing by Breitbart/Infowars and wait for them to tell you what to believe?

Arguing just to argue at this point, the freeze frame is there for you to see with commentary, because apparently that is what is required, explaining the obvious to someone who chooses not to see because of how much of a partisan hack you've become..
Coffee with Scott Adams - Did Trump shove a NATO leader? 2017.05.25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vzEJIa7lo


Requiring the media to explain what you need to believe?

Look in the mirror and weep. It couldn't be more blatant.

They cheered before he could get the sheep back "on message".


The left have become what they once complained about.

 

[agent00f]

Arguing just to argue at this point, the freeze frame is there for you to see with commentary, because apparently that is what is required, explaining the obvious to someone who chooses not to see because of how much of a partisan hack you've become..
Coffee with Scott Adams - Did Trump shove a NATO leader? 2017.05.25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vzEJIa7lo


Requiring the media to explain what you need to believe?

Look in the mirror and weep. It couldn't be more blatant.

They cheered before he could get the sheep back "on message".


The left have become what they once complained about.

So to scott adams and yourself it was simultaneously "cool" that trump would shove someone out of his way, but he was just horsing around same as the pussy grabbing or birtherism and the list goes on. You seem to think that people should be dumb enough to believe this, presumably because you believe your peers are good enough at lying. A rather odd belief for someone who nobody would ever accuse of smarts or competence.

 

[cytg111]

Arguing just to argue at this point, the freeze frame is there for you to see with commentary, because apparently that is what is required, explaining the obvious to someone who chooses not to see because of how much of a partisan hack you've become..
Coffee with Scott Adams - Did Trump shove a NATO leader? 2017.05.25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vzEJIa7lo


Requiring the media to explain what you need to believe?

Look in the mirror and weep. It couldn't be more blatant.

They cheered before he could get the sheep back "on message".


The left have become what they once complained about.

It is all Jon Stewarts fault? You got Trump fumbling around the globe and you point towards retiree Jon Stewart as the root of all evil? When I am leaving for Mars im leaving you behind .

 

[Commodus]

Arguing just to argue at this point, the freeze frame is there for you to see with commentary, because apparently that is what is required, explaining the obvious to someone who chooses not to see because of how much of a partisan hack you've become..
Coffee with Scott Adams - Did Trump shove a NATO leader? 2017.05.25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vzEJIa7lo


Requiring the media to explain what you need to believe?

Look in the mirror and weep. It couldn't be more blatant.

They cheered before he could get the sheep back "on message".


The left have become what they once complained about.

I love the irony of crying "partisan hack" when all you do is post highly partisan videos, add a tiny bit of commentary and expect us to be instantly converted to your point of view.

Here's a challenge for you: post a detailed reply to someone (not necessarily me) using solely your own writing. That means paragraphs, not one- or two-line quips. You can cite evidence, but it has to be links to articles from reasonably objective sources. If you post a YouTube link, you automatically lose the argument. If you link to Breitbart, InfoWars or other sites that peddle in obviously biased or outright false claims, you also lose the argument (to be fair: this also means ruling out hard-left sites like DailyKOS).

Can you do it? I'd be happy if you could, but you have yet to demonstrate that you have in-depth thoughts of your own.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Literally lol'd when oroo is saying Trump gently touched the other guy. Obviously video footage be damned!

 

[TheVrolok]

No.

It is you who have missed the point. Completely.

People were stating that they felt ashamed to be American overseas, to the point of pretending to be from another country. That has nothing to do with humility and everything to do with a lack of self-confidence. For example, if someone has self-confidence, they could easily say they were American and have humility about a particular subject or political point of view.

Also, Trump was never mentioned. I'm not sure from where the subconscious need to tie each and every comment to the President originates, but there it is.

Did you honestly believe those talking about walking around with maple leaf pins and ending every sentence with "eh" were being literal? Tongue-in-cheek new to you? And who was talking about being ashamed to be an American? Now not able to differentiate embarrassment and shame? Too much nuance all around?

 

[edcoolio]

Did you honestly believe those talking about walking around with maple leaf pins and ending every sentence with "eh" were being literal? Tongue-in-cheek new to you? And who was talking about being ashamed to be an American? Now not able to differentiate embarrassment and shame? Too much nuance all around?

Thou doth protest too much.

 

[zinfamous]

Literally lol'd when oroo is saying Trump gently touched the other guy. Obviously video footage be damned!

OoomparoOroroROoo is merely an empty vessel for the unfiltered thoughts of random morons.

 

[TheVrolok]

Thou doth protest too much.

I'm quite sincere.. Wait, let me guess, you've never actually read Hamlet?

 

[edcoolio]

I'm quite sincere.. Wait, let me guess, you've never actually read Hamlet?

The individual that posted about pretending to be Canadian was quite sincere. The moronic responses were not.