Trump Slams Hillary - Full Text

[sm625]

Weak sauce, Trump took 10 times as much.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/12/b...plaza-hotel-to-saudi-and-asian-investors.html

Yeah but Trump doesnt work for the state dept, nor does he authorize billion dollar arm sales after the receipt of money into one of his "foundations". But none of that matters because Hillaryz is gon gimme dat FREE STUFFZ!

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah but Trump doesnt work for the state dept, nor does he authorize billion dollar arm sales after the receipt of money into one of his "foundations". But none of that matters because Hillaryz is gon gimme dat FREE STUFFZ!

What free stuff is Hillary giving away?

 

[crashtech]

It's more like his pitch to working class schmoes is pretty easily countered with the fact that he is in the midst of multiple lawsuits for defrauding working class schmoes with his scam university.

He promised regular people if they just trusted him he would give them everything they always dreamed of. Then he stole their money. There's no way around that, it's lethal.

Whether they are easily countered remains to be seen. Truth is always a victim in politics, and it seems that Hillary may have some issues of her own regarding honesty, depending on who you ask.

 

[crashtech]

avg working class shmoe here and none of that resonated with me. in fact I am the prototypical, middle aged, white, hetero male. kinda like drumpfs base. he's just a vile, repugnant, con man who got much further into this election cycle than anyone thought he would short of himself.

I'm in a similar demographic, yet find Hillary more repugnant than Trump. For me it's a case of who is disliked the least, and I have a feeling many Hillary supporters secretly feel the same way.

 

[emperus]

I think a lot of resonant, populist notes are being struck in that speech. It's interesting to observe how disconnected the largely intellectual crowd here is from the concerns of average working class schmoes. Some of the elements in the speech are not even parts of the Republican platform, speaking instead to those Bernie voters that he'll need to win.

Lol. Wut? The difference between this "intellectual" crowd of yours is that we actually understand who Trump is and the record of the Republican party. And fyi, do you really believe the younger more educated Bernie voter is going to believe Trump's lies? A Bernie voter voting for Trump is purely a protest vote.

 

[senseamp]

Yeah but Trump doesnt work for the state dept, nor does he authorize billion dollar arm sales after the receipt of money into one of his "foundations". But none of that matters because Hillaryz is gon gimme dat FREE STUFFZ!

Correlation != causation.
When has the US NOT authorized billion dollar arm sales to Saudis?
Still going with that 47% sh!t? Worked out great for Romney.

 

[MongGrel]

I only heard pieces but apparently there were two teleprompters and it sounded a lot more normal other than being loaded with lies. You can tell a new man is in charge and its not Trump.

Well, he did fire his campaign manager a few days ago after his kids getting the kickbacks prompted him to do so.

He's using a script now it appears.

 

[Dulanic]

If I didn't fact check I might actually buy into his bullshit. He makes a lot of good points about the trade deals and the corporations buying out government. Though he makes even more bad ones. I don't trust a WORD he says.

 

[crashtech]

Lol. Wut? The difference between this "intellectual" crowd of yours is that we actually understand who Trump is and the record of the Republican party. And fyi, do you really believe the younger more educated Bernie voter is going to believe Trump's lies? A Bernie voter voting for Trump is purely a protest vote.

Younger and educated does not necessarily mean less easily swayed or less emotionally driven. A big part of a politician's job is to spin convincing narratives without regard to their basis in truth. That's why so many lawyers become politicians, they are professional story tellers as well.

 

[MongGrel]

Younger usually equates to naive no matter the education from my personal experience, but it varies.

 

[Moonbeam]

American democracy has been lost, bought by the wealthy. It makes not the slightest difference who wins if it isn't Trump. Only Sanders who is gone and Trump who remains talks about the real issue and says he will do something about it. It makes no difference if he does or he does not so long as the issue identified is the right one. We are already lost as it is. One has only a change to vote for the one who says he wants change. Hillary or a lying Donald, who cares really. Its a choice between cremation or burial. People just don't seem to see we are already toast, like we have something to lose. We have already been fucked. Stick a fork in yourself, you're done.

 

[zinfamous]

Whether they are easily countered remains to be seen. Truth is always a victim in politics, and it seems that Hillary may have some issues of her own regarding honesty, depending on who you ask.

well, that's just it, isn't it?

It really doesn't depend on who you ask when it comes to Trump's lies. Everyone knows they are lies.

 

[Subyman]

American democracy has been lost, bought by the wealthy. It makes not the slightest difference who wins if it isn't Trump. Only Sanders who is gone and Trump who remains talks about the real issue and says he will do something about it. It makes no difference if he does or he does not so long as the issue identified is the right one. We are already lost as it is. One has only a change to vote for the one who says he wants change. Hillary or a lying Donald, who cares really. Its a choice between cremation or burial. People just don't seem to see we are already toast, like we have something to lose. We have already been fucked. Stick a fork in yourself, you're done.

America will become more liberal and wealth inequality will be addressed. Its just a matter of how long we have to wait. We almost got the right candidate this election cycle. I'll go another 4 years of status quo for another chance at real change without the consequences of a Donald presidency.

 

[bshole]

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[Exophase]

America will become more liberal and wealth inequality will be addressed. Its just a matter of how long we have to wait. We almost got the right candidate this election cycle. I'll go another 4 years of status quo for another chance at real change without the consequences of a Donald presidency.

If Hillary is elected in 2016 you're going to get either more Hillary in 2020 or a Republican (my money is on the Republican). There won't be a right candidate on the Democrat side, no one is going to overthrow her in the primaries.

 

[emperus]

Younger and educated does not necessarily mean less easily swayed or less emotionally driven. A big part of a politician's job is to spin convincing narratives without regard to their basis in truth. That's why so many lawyers become politicians, they are professional story tellers as well.

Younger means less inclined to be racist or xenophobic. And more educated means less inclined to fall for the Bullshit that Trump spews. These are Bernie voters, you know the espoused socialist. Do you really think a sizable chunk of his supporters are going to support Trump and the Republican party.

These are the same voters that swept Obama into office and the majority will either jump to Hilary or sit out if they don't vote Trump in a protest to destroy the establishment

 

[emperus]

If Hillary is elected in 2016 you're going to get either more Hillary in 2020 or a Republican (my money is on the Republican). There won't be a right candidate on the Democrat side, no one is going to overthrow her in the primaries.

That's the dilemma I face. I pray either she proves me wrong while she's in office or she realizes she's too old to run for a 2nd term.

 

[DrunkenSano]

well, that's just it, isn't it?

It really doesn't depend on who you ask when it comes to Trump's lies. Everyone knows they are lies.

Trump lies. Hillary lies. Anyone we get to vote for lies. System has been rigged for quite a while.

 

[ivwshane]

Trump lies. Hillary lies. Anyone we get to vote for lies. System has been rigged for quite a while.

Exactly how is the system rigged, please be specific?

All humans lie so I can only imagine that the issue is the severity of a lie and/or the frequency of lying. So what lies has Hillary told that you find abhorrent or what is your basis for the frequency at which Hillary lies?

 

[Subyman]

If Hillary is elected in 2016 you're going to get either more Hillary in 2020 or a Republican (my money is on the Republican). There won't be a right candidate on the Democrat side, no one is going to overthrow her in the primaries.

Depends. Plenty of things can happen that are infinitely better than what I know, a Donald Trump presidency can't happen.

 

[Exophase]

Depends. Plenty of things can happen that are infinitely better than what I know, a Donald Trump presidency can't happen.

Sure things could happen leading to her resignation, vacancy, or refusal to run a second term. These things are probably considerably more likely than losing the primaries. I don't want to think of what horrible mistakes she needs to commit to lose the primaries.

I just wouldn't talk about any of those things as real chances. Nothing like the chance Bernie had at nomination this cycle, anyway.

 

[Linux23]

Well I had almost given up hope but now I'm not so sure. That was a masterful speech. He has a chance to win in my opinion, if he can stick to those issues.

Yeah the speech was well crafted.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah but Trump doesnt work for the state dept, nor does he authorize billion dollar arm sales after the receipt of money into one of his "foundations". But none of that matters because Hillaryz is gon gimme dat FREE STUFFZ!

I do love the way that non-critical thinkers go on about Saudi arms sales. It's the kind of thing that gets discussed & evaluated at the Cabinet level & below- You know, the DoD, NSA, CIA, commerce dept, on and on. Not to mention Nato & our lying Israeli pals.

The Saudis got nothing that wasn't approved by a lot of people.

It's not like Repubs disapprove of Saudi arms sales, anyway.

 

[Subyman]

Sure things could happen leading to her resignation, vacancy, or refusal to run a second term. These things are probably considerably more likely than losing the primaries. I don't want to think of what horrible mistakes she needs to commit to lose the primaries.

I just wouldn't talk about any of those things as real chances. Nothing like the chance Bernie had at nomination this cycle, anyway.

I agree. Progress will continue, we may just have to wait. In the mean time, I trust Hillary more than Trump to keep America in decent shape until next time.

 

[compuwiz1]

I agree. Progress will continue, we may just have to wait. In the mean time, I trust Hillary more than Trump to keep America in decent shape until next time.

You said trust and Hillary in the same sentence. Oxymoron, moron!