Trump/Republicans plans not to certify the 2024 election.

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Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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K1052 said:
I don't think it is impossible Republicans act in ways that run contrary to public opinion in the name of trying to stay in or obtain power. I think the likely trouble is on the state end this time and not the federal level though and even that has probably (?) diminished from 2020. Federal courts are a wild card however which could sow chaos.
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All Republican election lawsuits will filter through the one district in Texas that has the single, radical nut as a judge. (Speaking of, we really need a new Judiciary Act that delineates where states suing the Federal government can file their lawsuits, or at least how they get assigned to a Federal judge within a state)
 
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fskimospy

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Brainonska511 said:
Legitimacy effectively derives from public opinion (as measured by the vote). The public at large isn't going to buy into Republicans arcane process to not certify results. The only way the Republican attempts could feasibly work is in a very tight election where they could throw up enough hay, but even then, that would be pretty dubious.
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The thing is they aren't going to come out twirling their mustache and laughing, saying 'muahaha, I refuse to certify so that Trump will be president!'. They will say something like 'unfortunately due to widespread evidence of election fraud throughout the state I cannot feel confident in the results, so I cannot certify them.'
 
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fskimospy

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Brainonska511 said:
All Republican election lawsuits will filter through the one district in Texas that has the single, radical nut as a judge.
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It will be funny to see Republicans file suit in Amarillo, Texas to claim that the results of the election in like Maine were invalid.

It will be even funnier when Kacsmaryk magically conjures up standing for them and rules the entire election must be thrown out, followed by the fifth circuit agreeing and retroactively declaring the Biden presidency unconstitutional.
 
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fskimospy said:
It will be funny to see Republicans file suit in Amarillo, Texas to claim that the results of the election in like Maine were invalid.

It will be even funnier when Kacsmaryk magically conjures up standing for them and rules the entire election must be thrown out, followed by the fifth circuit agreeing and retroactively declaring the Biden presidency unconstitutional.
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And conservatives on SCOTUS saying "Interesting, we will not stay the lower court decision and will hear the case in 2025". I used to be more skeptical of them doing insane shit but the immunity ruling really demolished that for me.
 
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fskimospy said:
It will be funny to see Republicans file suit in Amarillo, Texas to claim that the results of the election in like Maine were invalid.

It will be even funnier when Kacsmaryk magically conjures up standing for them and rules the entire election must be thrown out, followed by the fifth circuit agreeing and retroactively declaring the Biden presidency unconstitutional.
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That's simple we've already seen the play from the AG of Texas. The "fraud" in Maine is denying the fine citizens of Texas the election of the candidate they voted for.
 
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And conservatives on SCOTUS saying "Interesting, we will not stay the lower court decision and will hear the case in 2025". I used to be more skeptical of them doing insane shit but the immunity ruling really demolished that for me.
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Yeah, there would already be 3 votes to hear to it. Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch.
 
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And Biden will officially declare the Supreme Court corrupt and Trump a traitor to America and committing treason. If the republicans start a coup I have no problem with the coup being shut down.

You can’t have democrats not standing up to a coup simply because they are actual humans and not evil scum. You meet the coup head on and let the chips fall where they may.

Is anyone suggesting the democrats and then majority of Americans simply roll over if STATES commit treason? At that point there is a civil war already taking place.
 
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fskimospy said:
If someone attempted to illegally overturn the results of the last election he lost it seems perfectly reasonable to think they may attempt to illegally overturn the results of the next election they lose.
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Particularly after Republicans either voted out or forced to resign via non-stop threats nearly every lower-level Republican election official in swing districts that certified the election - and replaced them with MAGA hard-core election deniers
 
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pcgeek11 said:
This thread really delivers.

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If my suggestions that peer review science saying that conservatives more so than liberals deny facts that threaten their egos would it be unreasonable to assume they might deny facts that also threaten the egos of liberals in those cases where also fall victim to such fears? I mean, isn't it possible that if you can't see Trump attempting a coup because you would fear admitting as much, could it be you project the same nonsensical rationalizations onto liberals, that they are essentially afraid of their own shadow and have dived into an empty swimming pool?

So, since you seem so sure that liberals are smoking crack and imagining dragons around the edges of the map of the known world, if it happens to pass that a real coup is attempted and numerous states attempt to deny certification that you will rethink your position. How much evidence would it take to convince you that democracy is in real danger.

I mean, sure all this bull shit about liberal violent resistance to a fascist takeover of the country sounds like a load of crap to me because I think if it happens liberals will fall like a house of cards buying their own tickets to the gas house trains, but I wonder if it really happens will you think differently than you do now. As a fascinated observer of conservative behavior I am interested in how much evidence it would take to shake their motivated faith.
 
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I think they learned their lesson from those ^

That lesson being: don't get caught. Do it better. If you've read details about the cases above, holy hell were these people arrogant and stupid.

There is zero doubt in my mind they'll try to cheat. I hope Biden does whatever he can to beef up security and oversight.
There is zero doubt in my mind they'll claim the Democrats cheated, Karl Rove perfected the art of blaming the opponent for the thing you yourself are doing.

Past behavior is a good indicator of future, especially when there is absolutely no remorse or admitting of guilt.
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Just because something is inept doesn't mean it wasn't a real attempt. Bay of Pigs was a pretty feeble "invasion" but it was an attempt to overthrow Castro's government.

i watched many, many livestreams from the capitol from the leaks that were put online. They were fascinating. Bottom line--at best most of those people were lawbreaking rioters. Many are on (their own) videos saying worse stuff, namely to string up various people they thought they were going to find there. Some got very close to the room where some congresspeople were, it was a touchy situation.

Anyone who tries to handwave that shit away can go fuck right off because they are lying, full stop. If you want to argue that Trump wasn't behind it, that's what the court case (that we might not see) is supposed to prove or disprove.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
They didn't.

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
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The attack on the Capitol was not the coup attempt. The fake electors and Pence were the coup attempt.

Trump asked Pence to violate the constitution to throw out valid votes for his opponent so he could stay in power. That’s the dictionary definition of a coup.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Self-coup - Wikipedia

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