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Trump Rally Crashed by Bernie Supporters

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Subyman said:
If a viable presidential candidate attacked your religion or your race and wanted to ban your people, perhaps you'd think differently.
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The gall of the man, wanting to ban non-citizens from entering our country illegally.

You could use your exact same argument to attack Obama in light of the "clinging to guns and religion" comment and many others like it.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
The gall of the man, wanting to ban non-citizens from entering our country illegally.

You could use your exact same argument to attack Obama in light of the "clinging to guns and religion" comment and many others like it.
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Yes, Trump is a man of peace and acceptance. That is why he has major protests. Keep living in fantasy land.
 
Subyman said:
No one is saying that it is right to be violent. I am saying it is inevitable and very unsurprising when he fans the flames that it will cause unrest. Your candidate knows what he is doing when he calls Mexicans rapists, all Islam is bad, ban muslims, build walls, punch protesters, talk about his dick size, make fun of the disabled, etc.
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Some Mexicans are rapists, murderers and drug dealers. Some of Islam is bad. There is some bad in all people, regardless of ethnicity, as well as good. These are inconvenient and politically incorrect truths. Where has he said ALL? You know he never said the word dick and was only firing back at Rubio's little innuendo. Your left wing ear pieces are messing with your reasoning.
 
jackstar7 said:
Do you believe in society? Civilization? Roads and bridges? Collective responsibility?
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Why does it have to be collective? Each individual is responsible for themselves. I believe in community, but it should be personal responsibility. I pay my bills, you pay yours. Your tuition is paid, her tuition is paid.
 
Here is what I believe is happening, bottom line:

We have a coddled group of people who feel threatened about the impending shake up in Washington, in the establishment. The threat is that able bodied moochers are going to lose some of their gravy. So they're losing their shit over it. It's like the tough love parent who comes in and puts a stop to the handouts and enabling of people to remain less than their best. Finally, there is someone who might potentially challenge their status quo. All the other shit is just rationalizing. Obama has not helped us with the entitlement mentality that is rampant in this country. Now someone is going to and they don't like it. Now some pussies might actually have to grow up.....at 32 years old.
 
GettyRoad said:
Why does it have to be collective? Each individual is responsible for themselves. I believe in community, but it should be personal responsibility. I pay my bills, you pay yours. Your tuition is paid, her tuition is paid.
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You still seem oblivious of the fact that The Duck and his LIVs are blaming everyone else but themselves for what they perceive ails this country. Personal responsibility be damned. That has been the entire theme of The Duck's campaign, for pete's sake.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Here is what I believe is happening, bottom line:

We have a coddled group of people who feel threatened about the impending shake up in Washington, in the establishment. The threat is that able bodied moochers are going to lose some of their gravy. So they're losing their shit over it. It's like the tough love parent who comes in and puts a stop to the handouts and enabling of people to remain less than their best. Finally, there is someone who might potentially challenge their status quo. All the other shit is just rationalizing. Obama has not helped us with the entitlement mentality that is rampant in this country. Now someone is going to and they don't like it. Now some pussies might actually have to grow up.....at 32 years old.
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If you mean he's going to cut "entitlements" to pay for his huge military buildup, probably, but it won't nearly be enough to even build and man his wall. No Trump supporter yet has answered the question of how He plans to pay for half of what he wants to do.
 
lopri said:
You still seem oblivious of the fact that The Duck and his LIVs are blaming everyone else but themselves for what they perceive ails this country. Personal responsibility be damned. That has been the entire theme of The Duck's campaign, for pete's sake.
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I believe in smart, responsible government. I don't believe that the government should be providing people with everything. It does not work well. You're supposed to work. I also don't believe in corporate crony welfare.
 
Oh I do not think people will disagree with those generic positions. No one thinks the government should provide everything.

But is it not unsettling that the aforementioned fact (The Duck and his supporters' scapegoat-seeking, personal responsibility-free agenda) has elided your conscience, if you value personal responsibility?
 
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soundforbjt said:
If you mean he's going to cut "entitlements" to pay for his huge military buildup, probably, but it won't nearly be enough to even build and man his wall. No Trump supporter yet has answered the question of how He plans to pay for half of what he wants to do.
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Perception is reality, hence my post. They feel threatened. It doesn't matter. Those people have no economic acumen. That's how people like Bernie Sanders have the support he does. Mexico is going to pay for the wall, by reduced aid, tariffs, confiscation of illegally transferred money, re-balancing trade, sanctions, or by whatever means necessary, but they are going to pay for it and there are ways to make it happen. A business mind will find ways to get things done. Politicians won't.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Perception is reality, hence my post. They feel threatened. It doesn't matter. Those people have no economic acumen. That's how people like Bernie Sanders have the support he does. Mexico is going to pay for the wall, by reduced aid, tariffs, confiscation of illegally transferred money, re-balancing trade, sanctions, or by whatever means necessary, but they are going to pay for it and there are ways to make it happen. A business mind will find ways to get things done. Politicians won't.
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So will he get them to pay for it before it's built or do we just take his word for it that Mexico will pay?
 
soundforbjt said:
So will he get them to pay for it before it's built or do we just take his word for it that Mexico will pay?
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I don't know, just trying to point out that it's not impossible. We could also just start locking up illegals and holding them for ransom. Not really that inhumane. They get food, shelter, clothing and medical, as well as can be used for roadside clean up and other tasks, while earning their standard prison pay, so they can buy things from stores.
 
lopri said:
Oh I do not think people will disagree with those generic positions. No one thinks the government should provide everything.

But is it not unsettling that the aforementioned fact (The Duck and his supporters' scapegoat-seeking, personal responsibility-free agenda) has elided your conscience, if you value personal responsibility?
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I don't think all Trump supporters are doing scapegoating. Some of them are in pain.
 
GettyRoad said:
I don't think all Trump supporters are doing scapegoating. Some of them are in pain.
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Hey, we are all in pain. That is simply a fact of life. But that was not what you questioned in this thread. And I pointed out to you that The Duck is not leading a campaign that you might think he is.
 
lopri said:
Oh I do not think people will disagree with those generic positions. No one thinks the government should provide everything.

But is it not unsettling that the aforementioned fact (The Duck and his supporters' scapegoat-seeking, personal responsibility-free agenda) has elided your conscience, if you value personal responsibility?
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Too deep.
 
Jhhnn said:
Yeh, and Donald is a faith healer.
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He's a movement, like Obama was back in 2008 with his hope and change message. Now we have make America Great Again. Generates the same hysteria. 😉

Hillary and Bernie have very boring events, by comparison.
 
GettyRoad said:
Why does it have to be collective? Each individual is responsible for themselves. I believe in community, but it should be personal responsibility. I pay my bills, you pay yours. Your tuition is paid, her tuition is paid.
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You know why it has to be collective, because we have collective problems. I'm quite certain you have problems that require collective action to solve. National defense, perhaps?

Some problems require cooperation. Remember how that word used to pop up in common discussion?
 
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