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[Muse]

I found the Bugs and Daffy cartoons to be hilarious, as a child. If they are produced for adults, why do children find them funny?

'Cause you were a grown up little guy.

 

[woolfe9998]

'Cause you were a grown up little guy.

If by that, you mean I was smarter than my contemporaries (other 5 year olds), then you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar.

 

[Amused]

Wiki says the series was produced from 1930 to 1969. I hadn't realized that it was produced that far back, so thanks for the fact check.

The golden age for Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes was the 40s and 50s when they were produced as filler for cinemas. Anything outside of that rarely ranks high at all.

All the best episodes that Boomers and Gen Z grew up with are from that era. Everything from the later 50s and 60s was crap intended for children. The material is markedly less funny. The earlier stuff from the 30s is OK, but hadn't matured yet.

 

[hal2kilo]

The golden age for Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes was the 40s and 50s when they were produced as filler for cinemas. Anything outside of that rarely ranks high at all.

All the best episodes that Boomers and Gen Z grew up with are from that era. Everything from the later 50s and 60s was crap intended for children. The material is markedly less funny. The earlier stuff from the 30s is OK, but hadn't matured yet.

Don't forget Merry Melodies come on Screwy Squirrel.

 

[Amused]

I found the Bugs and Daffy cartoons to be hilarious, as a child. If they are produced for adults, why do children find them funny? I think with a lot of cartoons they are made for children as a prime audience, but the writers include jokes that only adults tend to get.

Anything is funny to a kid. So it's a low bar. Just have funny animals doing looney stuff is enough.

But the jokes are more adult in the early Looney Tunes and when you watch them today, you realize what you didn't get as a kid.

 

[Amused]

Don't forget Merry Melodies come on Screwy Squirrel.

Yep, that too.

 

[woolfe9998]

Anything is funny to a kid. So it's a low bar. Just have funny animals doing looney stuff is enough.

But the jokes are more adult in the early Looney Tunes and when you watch them today, you realize what you didn't get as a kid.

Perhaps, but I disliked certain cartoons, and those particular cartoons were by far the funniest to me. Perhaps I just "got" the more adult oriented humor earlier than some kids. I'll just stick with that narrative.

 

[Muse]

The golden age for Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes was the 40s and 50s when they were produced as filler for cinemas. Anything outside of that rarely ranks high at all.

All the best episodes that Boomers and Gen Z grew up with are from that era. Everything from the later 50s and 60s was crap intended for children. The material is markedly less funny. The earlier stuff from the 30s is OK, but hadn't matured yet.

Hmm. I remember loving the Looney Tunes stuff as a kid and no doubt by virtue of their appearance between features in the cinema.

So, a few years ago I bought two 4-disc sets of Looney Tunes. But I haven't opened the 2nd set because I was disappointed in what I was seeing in the first set. So, I just dusted them off and looking at the packaging I'm seeing nothing to identify when they were created, just boilerplate about them being vintage, restored, blah blah:

Looney Tunes Golden Collection
Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume Two

Guess I'll have to dig deeper and see if this is the dreaded made-for-kiddies stuff or maybe there's some of the cool made for adults stuff.

Edit: Ah, the Volume Two collection has this...

1	The Big Snooze	Elmer	October 5, 1946	Bob Clampett	LT
2	Broom-Stick Bunny	Witch Hazel	February 25, 1956	Chuck Jones	LT
3	Bugs Bunny Rides Again	Yosemite Sam	June 12, 1948	Friz Freleng	MM
4	Bunny Hugged	The Crusher	March 10, 1951	Chuck Jones	MM
5	French Rarebit		June 30, 1951	Robert McKimson	MM
6	Gorilla My Dreams	Gruesome Gorilla	January 3, 1948	Robert McKimson	LT
7	The Hare-Brained Hypnotist	Elmer	October 31, 1942	Friz Freleng	MM
8	Hare Conditioned		August 11, 1945	Chuck Jones	LT
9	The Heckling Hare	Willoughby	July 5, 1941	Tex Avery	MM
10	Little Red Riding Rabbit		January 4, 1944	Friz Freleng	MM
11	Tortoise Beats Hare	Cecil	March 15, 1941	Tex Avery	MM
12	Rabbit Transit	Cecil	May 10, 1947	Friz Freleng	LT
13	Slick Hare	Elmer	November 1, 1947	Friz Freleng	MM
14	Baby Buggy Bunny		December 18, 1954	Chuck Jones	MM
15	Hyde and Hare		August 27, 1955	Friz Freleng	LT

Volume one isn't broken down in a chart, but it says it contains a lot of stuff from the 50's and some from the 40's:

Looney Tunes Golden Collection - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[woolfe9998]

Yuck. For curiosity sake, I looked up the origin of the actual word "moron." It came from the eugenicist Henry Goddard. They evidently were already using the word "idiot" to describe those with a mental age of 2, and "imbecile" for those with a mental age of 3-7. But Goddard thought that those with a mental age of 8-12 were the dangerous ones, because they could pass as "normal" and might be allowed to reproduce. So he adapted the Greek word "moronia" meaning foolish as the English word "moron."

 

[hal2kilo]

Having had a mentally handicapped brother. I found that the term actually relate to levels of IQ.

https://campbellmgold.co.uk/archive_esoteric/morons_imbeciles_idiots.pdf

Of course these terms are out of favor as is retarded.

 

[Amused]

Hmm. I remember loving the Looney Tunes stuff as a kid and no doubt by virtue of their appearance between features in the cinema.

So, a few years ago I bought two 4-disc sets of Looney Tunes. But I haven't opened the 2nd set because I was disappointed in what I was seeing in the first set. So, I just dusted them off and looking at the packaging I'm seeing nothing to identify when they were created, just boilerplate about them being vintage, restored, blah blah:

Looney Tunes Golden Collection
Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume Two

Guess I'll have to dig deeper and see if this is the dreaded made-for-kiddies stuff or maybe there's some of the cool made for adults stuff.

Edit: Ah, the Volume Two collection has this...

1	The Big Snooze	Elmer	October 5, 1946	Bob Clampett	LT
2	Broom-Stick Bunny	Witch Hazel	February 25, 1956	Chuck Jones	LT
3	Bugs Bunny Rides Again	Yosemite Sam	June 12, 1948	Friz Freleng	MM
4	Bunny Hugged	The Crusher	March 10, 1951	Chuck Jones	MM
5	French Rarebit		June 30, 1951	Robert McKimson	MM
6	Gorilla My Dreams	Gruesome Gorilla	January 3, 1948	Robert McKimson	LT
7	The Hare-Brained Hypnotist	Elmer	October 31, 1942	Friz Freleng	MM
8	Hare Conditioned		August 11, 1945	Chuck Jones	LT
9	The Heckling Hare	Willoughby	July 5, 1941	Tex Avery	MM
10	Little Red Riding Rabbit		January 4, 1944	Friz Freleng	MM
11	Tortoise Beats Hare	Cecil	March 15, 1941	Tex Avery	MM
12	Rabbit Transit	Cecil	May 10, 1947	Friz Freleng	LT
13	Slick Hare	Elmer	November 1, 1947	Friz Freleng	MM
14	Baby Buggy Bunny		December 18, 1954	Chuck Jones	MM
15	Hyde and Hare		August 27, 1955	Friz Freleng	LT

Volume one isn't broken down in a chart, but it says it contains a lot of stuff from the 50's and some from the 40's:

Looney Tunes Golden Collection - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hands down the funniest is "Rabbit Seasoning." That one is in the first Golden collection.

But yep, that's the golden age. 40s and 50s.

 

[woolfe9998]

Having had a mentally handicapped brother. I found that the term actually relate to levels of IQ.

https://campbellmgold.co.uk/archive_esoteric/morons_imbeciles_idiots.pdf

Yes it does. The aforementioned eugenicist was a proponent of IQ testing, and the "mental age" I refer to in my post was an early 20th century metric derived from the results of IQ tests of the age. Indeed, virtually all the early developers and promoters of IQ tests were eugenicists.

Mental deficiency: idiot, imbecile, and moron

The term “mental deficiency” served as a more general term encompassing various levels of mental disability, which were ranked in accordance with an intelligence scale. Such designations as “idiot,” “imbecile,” and “moron” were introduced into the psychological community as scientific...

eugenicsarchive.ca

 

[hal2kilo]

Back to the thread. I just saw a picture of the Governor of OK with Inhofe about 6 ft behind him. Things could have been worse. Wonder what would have happened if he got COVID and ended up a statistic.

 

[dullard]

Herman Cain, who attended the Tulsa rally has tested positive and been hospitalized...

Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain hospitalized with Covid-19

Cain was photographed at President Donald Trump's rally in Oklahoma sitting in close proximity with other attendees, none of whom appeared to be wearing masks.

www.cnbc.com

And died. The 9-9-9-Covid-19 plan. He touted probably the worst way to propose to run the federal government: like a fast food advertisement. No intelligence or thought needed for policy, just make it sound good in a TV ad.

Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19 diagnosis

Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate and supporter of President Donald Trump who pointedly refused to wear a mask during the coronavirus pandemic, has died after contracting COVID-19, his website said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com