Trump plans 16-day holiday visit to Mar-a-Lago

[killster1]

Obama went golfing 306 times in 2920 days in office, or every 9.5 days. Trump has been golfing 154 times in 693, or every 4.5 days.

Trump golfs almost twice as often as Obama.

hahah but at camp david? or just golf in general? i know my obama more golf trips than all prez combine wasnt true but it sounded good 😉

 

[SMOGZINN]

hahah but at camp david? or just golf in general? i know my obama more golf trips than all prez combine wasnt true but it sounded good 😉

Trump has not yet been to Camp David or Andrews for golf. 100% of his golf trips have been to private resorts, all but two of the 154 trips to ones he owns. Obama only spent 20% of this golfing time at private courses, only once ever while overseas (Trump has golfed at every overseas trip), with the vast majority of Obama's golfing done at Andrews AFB.

 

[Jhhnn]

didnt obama take more golf trips than every president combine? i know OBAMA ruined a day of mine by visiting Yosemite and shutting down the whole park for fathers day. So lets get real all the prez vacations are a waste of money. Is he charging himself for room board etc? or just to get there? i take off 6 weeks at a time 2x a year, if the prez only takes off 16 days for xmas wow thats sad 🙂

sounds like hes actually saving us $$ here no?

Trump is welcome to his leisure as far as I'm concerned. I think we should make it permanent, that's all.

Or will you contend that electing him Prez wasn't a yuge mistake?

 

[killster1]

Trump is welcome to his leisure as far as I'm concerned. I think we should make it permanent, that's all.

Or will you contend that electing him Prez wasn't a yuge mistake?

i still think its better than if hillary won, sure. But im not about giving welfare to illegal aliens. if your family is in mexico or worried about womanizer comments then ya Hillary would have been better.

 

[SMOGZINN]

But im not about giving welfare to illegal aliens.

So far Trump has not stopped this, and it does not look like he will. So all we ended up with is a criminal President that has been completely incompetent at running the state. how is Trump any better?

 

[Jhhnn]

i still think its better than if hillary won, sure. But im not about giving welfare to illegal aliens. if your family is in mexico or worried about womanizer comments then ya Hillary would have been better.

Of course you believe that because your thinking processes have been scrambled by decades of relentless right wing agitprop & disinformation.

Our President is a criminal. That was obvious to most of us a long time ago. He is incapable of acting in the interests of the People because he cares only for himself. Should he miraculously do so, it will be entirely by accident.

Your petty bullshit about illegals on welfare pales entirely in comparison to the malevolent malfeasance of Trump.

 

[killster1]

Of course you believe that because your thinking processes have been scrambled by decades of relentless right wing agitprop & disinformation.

Our President is a criminal. That was obvious to most of us a long time ago. He is incapable of acting in the interests of the People because he cares only for himself. Should he miraculously do so, it will be entirely by accident.

Your petty bullshit about illegals on welfare pales entirely in comparison to the malevolent malfeasance of Trump.

Sorry its true, if you are a illegal on welfare now you are at risk of deportation and other things. Maybe you dont live around a area with 50% illegal people driving around at 20mph on the 55, or see them with escalades leather jacket and designer purse buying a cart full of soda and candy with foodstamps.

really i dont know of any trump crimes but i dont watch tv either (only when im paid to do so) I dont care about trump news which seems to be on everyones mind 25 hours a day. What has he done wrong that hillary didnt do?

 

[soundforbjt]

What has he done wrong that hillary didnt do?

Commit a felony.

 

[killster1]

Commit a felony.

You are so funny, you think hillary is a angel that has never committed felonies? wow i dont believe you think its true at all.

 

[soundforbjt]

You are so funny, you think hillary is a angel that has never committed felonies? wow i dont believe you think its true at all.

There's proof that Trump has committed a felony, if he were not President, he'd be indicted. Since the Republicans control all three branches of government, why hasn't Hillary been indicted?

 

[killster1]

There's proof that Trump has committed a felony, if he were not President, he'd be indicted. Since the Republicans control all three branches of government, why hasn't Hillary been indicted?

because no one cares about her, shes not in teh spotlight shes a woman, shes democrat, should i go on? im pretty sure her email scam was a felony right? why DONT RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO DO TIME IN JAIL? wow because life is not fair, you pay enough $$$ you get out most punishment if any at all. You dont live in the same world as me?

 

[soundforbjt]

because no one cares about her, shes not in teh spotlight shes a woman, shes democrat, should i go on? im pretty sure her email scam was a felony right? why DONT RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO DO TIME IN JAIL? wow because life is not fair, you pay enough $$$ you get out most punishment if any at all. You dont live in the same world as me?

Why is Manafort and Cohen going to jail? they're both rich. If you have proof Hillary committed a felony, I'm sure repubs and Donald would love to hear from you.

 

[Jhhnn]

"But Hillary!" is a really tired duh-version.

The fact remains that Cohen plead guilty to felonies & that prosecutors implicate Trump as having directed Cohen to perform those felonies. They have the sworn testimony of Cohen, AMI execs, & other evidence as well. Anybody else would have been indicted along with Cohen- Senator, Congressman, Governor, whoever. It seems more will be revealed soon. Congress needs to relieve him of the burden of the Presidency so that he can properly defend himself in a court of law. For him to continue in the face of these very credible accusations is to place the welfare of the officeholder above the office of President & we can't have that. Presidents are as replaceable as the rest of us.

 

[WelshBloke]

"But Hillary!" is a really tired duh-version.

I don't think kilsters diverting, I think that he has problems understanding reality.

 

[soundforbjt]

I don't think kilsters diverting, I think that he has problems understanding reality.

He admits he doesn't watch tv or apparently read anything but far-right "news", so he doesn't understand anything about it but his feels.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Give the guy a break. Right now his business, his foundation, his campaign, his inauguration and his presidency are all under criminal investigation. He needs a break...

 

[Muse]

To me, America seems to be rolling down a steep hill in a makeshift pine go-cart without brakes. Can a catastrophe be prevented? Only with big changes and the first one on my list is the current mis-administration... all of it.

Give the guy a break. Right now his business, his foundation, his campaign, his inauguration and his presidency are all under criminal investigation. He needs a break...

He should fucking resign, it would have the most benefit of anything he could do at this point in his life.

 

[zinfamous]

hahah but at camp david? or just golf in general? i know my obama more golf trips than all prez combine wasnt true but it sounded good 😉

Trump only golfs at and vacations at property that he owns; essentially laundering your and my tax dollars into his own private fortune, which he boldly, to this day, maintains full control over.

Dude has been paying himself something like $45-60million per year, 100% from our cash. If you ain't angry, then you ain't paying attention.

 

[Commodus]

really i dont know of any trump crimes but i dont watch tv either (only when im paid to do so) I dont care about trump news which seems to be on everyones mind 25 hours a day. What has he done wrong that hillary didnt do?

Well first, this seems like your problem: you need to actually stay informed as to what's happening in the world. Please do yourself a favor and read or watch news from multiple outlets that are reasonably neutral, including international sources like the BBC and CBC. If all you experience are soundbites and the occasional article shared on Facebook, you're missing out on a lot.

Here's a few things Trump has done that are illegal (there are many more that are simply wrong) that Clinton hasn't:

Committed a felony violation of federal election law (that's what Cohen's deal effectively confirmed).

Obstructed justice (among other things, he admitted to firing Comey to stall the Mueller investigation).

The Trump University fraud, which he settled right before inauguration.

Received a large chunk of his dad's money through tax fraud.

Routinely stiffed contractors, forcing them to sue him to get promised payments.

Admitted to sexually assaulting women (the "grab 'em by the pussy" audio clip).

Likely raped Ivana (she retracted the claim later, but probably only to avoid a lawsuit from Trump).

Several of the major figures connected to his campaign are either making plea deals or facing trial. But hey, I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that virtually everyone attached to Trump is a criminal, right?

And this is all assuming we accept Trump's "no collusion!" claim at face value, which we can't because he lies about virtually everything.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump only golfs at and vacations at property that he owns; essentially laundering your and my tax dollars into his own private fortune, which he boldly, to this day, maintains full control over.

Dude has been paying himself something like $45-60million per year, 100% from our cash. If you ain't angry, then you ain't paying attention.

He did brag that he might make money running for Prez. Turns out he's just using Uncle Sam to cover losses-

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...gto-get-rich-off-his-presidency/#2fc8ad603b1a

 

[BurnItDwn]

He better get in as much leisure time as he can, once he finds himself behind bars, he'll have less oportunities to travel.

 

[killster1]

Well first, this seems like your problem: you need to actually stay informed as to what's happening in the world. Please do yourself a favor and read or watch news from multiple outlets that are reasonably neutral, including international sources like the BBC and CBC. If all you experience are soundbites and the occasional article shared on Facebook, you're missing out on a lot.

Here's a few things Trump has done that are illegal (there are many more that are simply wrong) that Clinton hasn't:

Committed a felony violation of federal election law (that's what Cohen's deal effectively confirmed).

Obstructed justice (among other things, he admitted to firing Comey to stall the Mueller investigation).

The Trump University fraud, which he settled right before inauguration.

Received a large chunk of his dad's money through tax fraud.

Routinely stiffed contractors, forcing them to sue him to get promised payments.

Admitted to sexually assaulting women (the "grab 'em by the pussy" audio clip).

Likely raped Ivana (she retracted the claim later, but probably only to avoid a lawsuit from Trump).

Several of the major figures connected to his campaign are either making plea deals or facing trial. But hey, I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that virtually everyone attached to Trump is a criminal, right?

And this is all assuming we accept Trump's "no collusion!" claim at face value, which we can't because he lies about virtually everything.

OK maybe he did those things maybe not, i dont know who ivana is his exwife? OK i googled it

here is what she said "I wish to say that on one occasion during 1989, Mr Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage.
As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited toward me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."

So not sure about the rape one but he prob cheated on the election like everyone seems to be doing (it would be weird to not cheat somehow) Just seems hes not very good at getting away with anything. I knew about his construction practices long ago, not paying contractors and forcing them to sue for work done. Im sure that was part of some kinda bankruptcy scam tax scam as well. So ya i guess hes a crook like the rest of the government. What do i need to watch the news and stay informed for tho? how will it help me at all? i dont bother to vote living in california as it only matters on local laws and regulations. Everything else is automatic democrat bs.

show me where he pays himself 50million a year in tax money and i will start to hate him too. but i still hate hillary as well and im sure the next prez will be a pos as well.

 

[trenchfoot]

When Trump is relaxed, it's when he's the most dangerous. He's able to think about as clearly as he could ever get out there where his problems seem a thousand light years away. (yeah, I know, he thinks a light year is when his profits are down but still).

So when he's "not working" he's plotting as best he's able to. And right about now he's trying to figure out how he can avoid jail time and who he has to sacrifice/blame/accuse/set up to get it done.

But I'm not worried about it at all because of the fact that he's gotten himself into this magnificently self-incriminating mess practically all on his own (as usual) and there ain't no lawyer on the face of this earth that he can hide behind like he did in private practice due to the United States (we the people as a collective) being a whole lot richer than he his.

So at present, he doesn't have the advantage of using his wealth to intimidate and get smug about like he did when he was unaccountable to the people writ large, which now just so happens to include the actual majority of the nation who voted against him.

He's finally up against something that can as the saying goes "find'um, fix'um and finish'um".

His major mistake? In thinking once he got ahold of the office, the modus operandi of which he used to rake in the dineros in the private sector was now exponentially increased and uhh, excuse the term..........."unimpeachable".

 

[Commodus]

OK maybe he did those things maybe not, i dont know who ivana is his exwife? OK i googled it

here is what she said "I wish to say that on one occasion during 1989, Mr Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage.
As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited toward me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."

So not sure about the rape one but he prob cheated on the election like everyone seems to be doing (it would be weird to not cheat somehow) Just seems hes not very good at getting away with anything. I knew about his construction practices long ago, not paying contractors and forcing them to sue for work done. Im sure that was part of some kinda bankruptcy scam tax scam as well. So ya i guess hes a crook like the rest of the government. What do i need to watch the news and stay informed for tho? how will it help me at all? i dont bother to vote living in california as it only matters on local laws and regulations. Everything else is automatic democrat bs.

show me where he pays himself 50million a year in tax money and i will start to hate him too. but i still hate hillary as well and im sure the next prez will be a pos as well.

You keep informed so that you actually know what's going on, make wise decisions and offer opinions based on evidence, not just emotions.

For example, you just made a false equivocation about the level of corruption in the Trump administration relative to past governments. It's a demonstrable, observable fact that Trump and his cabinet are far more corrupt than Obama, not to mention most other past presidents. Obama didn't appoint an EPA leader known to take bribes from the coal industry, or an FCC chair obviously on the take from Verizon; Obama didn't appoint multiple officials who've quit because anti-corruption investigations were closing in on them (like Ryan Zinke, for instance).

And funny you talk about wanting proof that Trump pays himself "$50 million a year in tax money," because there are signs he's about to take a 16-day vacation at Mar-A-Lago at taxpayer expense. In fact, every time he goes to one of his properties he's using your money to fund his businesses. He didn't properly divest his businesses when he took the presidency, so there's a massive conflict of interest. There are strong signs he courts Saudi Arabia and Russia because of real estate plans and other deals that directly benefit him.

That's the thing: when you purposefully remain apathetic to politics and news, you let people like Trump manipulate you because they know you won't question their lies or just won't care. Ever heard of the saying "if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything?" You don't have to give Clinton a free pass by any means, but don't pretend she was going to be just as bad as Trump; she had experience, competence and at least a vague sense of concern for people besides herself.

 

[killster1]

You keep informed so that you actually know what's going on, make wise decisions and offer opinions based on evidence, not just emotions.

For example, you just made a false equivocation about the level of corruption in the Trump administration relative to past governments. It's a demonstrable, observable fact that Trump and his cabinet are far more corrupt than Obama, not to mention most other past presidents. Obama didn't appoint an EPA leader known to take bribes from the coal industry, or an FCC chair obviously on the take from Verizon; Obama didn't appoint multiple officials who've quit because anti-corruption investigations were closing in on them (like Ryan Zinke, for instance).

And funny you talk about wanting proof that Trump pays himself "$50 million a year in tax money," because there are signs he's about to take a 16-day vacation at Mar-A-Lago at taxpayer expense. In fact, every time he goes to one of his properties he's using your money to fund his businesses. He didn't properly divest his businesses when he took the presidency, so there's a massive conflict of interest. There are strong signs he courts Saudi Arabia and Russia because of real estate plans and other deals that directly benefit him.

That's the thing: when you purposefully remain apathetic to politics and news, you let people like Trump manipulate you because they know you won't question their lies or just won't care. Ever heard of the saying "if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything?" You don't have to give Clinton a free pass by any means, but don't pretend she was going to be just as bad as Trump; she had experience, competence and at least a vague sense of concern for people besides herself.

just curious about the 50 million, why cant you show me? i really dont care about any of the politics i am sorry i even made a reply in this thread 🙂