Trump NY indictment thread

[fskimospy]

Can't wait for Trump to screw him over.

I think there’s a good chance if Trump wins he never pays him back but I also think he knows that and is banking on other favors.

 

[eelw]

Now imagine the faux outrage if Biden had to get a loan from someone. Hell, they’ll accuse him of wrong doing if someone paid for his ice cream.

 

[fskimospy]

Now imagine the faux outrage if Biden had to get a loan from someone. Hell, they’ll accuse him of wrong doing if someone paid for his ice cream.

They already attacked him for making a loan 1/1,000th the size and getting paid back.

 

[eelw]

They already attacked him for making a loan 1/1,000th the size and getting paid back.

But we’re talking the other way around. It is far worse when they need the money vs them giving it and getting paid back with unknown funds.

 

[interchange]

Oh it's totally fair to conclude that Trump went under more significant scrutiny as a result of his political career resulting in discovery and civil litigation for fraudulent practices that have been pervasive through his business career.

It's totally wrong to conclude that this means his current legal woes are a politically biased witch-hunt. If you want to engage in some sort of analysis of why his actions weren't discovered and litigated sooner, go ahead.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh it's totally fair to conclude that Trump went under more significant scrutiny as a result of his political career resulting in discovery and civil litigation for fraudulent practices that have been pervasive through his business career.

It's totally wrong to conclude that this means his current legal woes are a politically biased witch-hunt. If you want to engage in some sort of analysis of why his actions weren't discovered and litigated sooner, go ahead.

Exactly right.

In the past he was a low rent grifter who donated to the local DA to avoid scrutiny. Once he got to the national stage he encountered people he couldn’t bribe.

 

[UNCjigga]

So I guess we all know the going rate on Presidents you can keep in your back pocket.

 

[QueBert]

HOW did he manage to secure the $175 million for the bond? I swear this fuckers luck is unlike any I've ever seen. Now I don't think for a second anything bad would have actually happened to him if he hadn't came up with the $$$. But fuck the judge who lowered it from $455 to 175 million. I fully expected him to not be able to come up with the 175, and I was wrong. But I know damn well he would have never been able to do 455.

And I read he posted some idiotic shit on Truth Social complaining about $175 million being unfair. Yes that's a shit load of money, but it was $455. BOO FUCKING HOO.

 

[Fenixgoon]

HOW did he manage to secure the $175 million for the bond? I swear this fuckers luck is unlike any I've ever seen. Now I don't think for a second anything bad would have actually happened to him if he hadn't came up with the $$$. But fuck the judge who lowered it from $455 to 175 million. I fully expected him to not be able to come up with the 175, and I was wrong. But I know damn well he would have never been able to do 455.

And I read he posted some idiotic shit on Truth Social complaining about $175 million being unfair. Yes that's a shit load of money, but it was $455. BOO FUCKING HOO.

Billionaire's insurance company to the rescue.

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www.cnn.com

The kicker is that trump came up with collateral all in cash. So how he got the cash . That's the 175mil question.

 

[Pens1566]

Oh it's totally fair to conclude that Trump went under more significant scrutiny as a result of his political career resulting in discovery and civil litigation for fraudulent practices that have been pervasive through his business career.

It's totally wrong to conclude that this means his current legal woes are a politically biased witch-hunt. If you want to engage in some sort of analysis of why his actions weren't discovered and litigated sooner, go ahead.

Yep. If he would have stayed in his lane none of these cases would even be a thing.

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

 

[dank69]

Trump screwing more business associates:

Trump sues Truth Social co-founders, says they're not entitled to stock shares

Former President Donald Trump has sued the co-founders of Truth Social, alleging they mismanaged the social media platform early on and should therefore lose their stock in the company, which recently went public.

www.yahoo.com

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

HOW did he manage to secure the $175 million for the bond? I swear this fuckers luck is unlike any I've ever seen. Now I don't think for a second anything bad would have actually happened to him if he hadn't came up with the $$$. But fuck the judge who lowered it from $455 to 175 million. I fully expected him to not be able to come up with the 175, and I was wrong. But I know damn well he would have never been able to do 455.

And I read he posted some idiotic shit on Truth Social complaining about $175 million being unfair. Yes that's a shit load of money, but it was $455. BOO FUCKING HOO.

In a rational world, owing someone that much money would preclude him becoming president. Alas.

 

[Stokely]

The rich know which party butters their bread. Just look at the tax "reform" installed under Trump I's reign and who benefitted. And no Paul Ryan, saving enough to pay your Netflix bill every month--to use his own ridiculous example-- is not at all what I'd call "benefitting".

 

[Greenman]

In a rational world, owing someone that much money would preclude him becoming president. Alas.

What would be the debt limit in your rational world? Would it be a hard number or a percentage of assets? Would it also include credit score? Should we also look at where income originates? Maybe an in depth audit of the persons complete financial history would be the way to go?
I'm not against the idea, but I wonder how it would work.

 

[brycejones]

What would be the debt limit in your rational world? Would it be a hard number or a percentage of assets? Would it also include credit score? Should we also look at where income originates? Maybe an in depth audit of the persons complete financial history would be the way to go?
I'm not against the idea, but I wonder how it would work.

All assets above say $5m should have to be placed in a blind trust for the duration of one’s service in office. This would apply to judges, reps, senators, positions subject to senate approval, and the President and vice president.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What would be the debt limit in your rational world? Would it be a hard number or a percentage of assets? Would it also include credit score? Should we also look at where income originates? Maybe an in depth audit of the persons complete financial history would be the way to go?
I'm not against the idea, but I wonder how it would work.

How about we cap it at the average lifetime income of a US citizen?

For the record, that's about $1.7M today.

 

[Greenman]

How about we cap it at the average lifetime income of a US citizen?

For the record, that's about $1.7M today.

So if a candidate had two billion in assets, but owed 1.7 million on their new yacht, they would be ineligible? That seems a little out of balance to me.

 

[Trell]

So if a candidate had two billion in assets, but owed 1.7 million on their new yacht, they would be ineligible? That seems a little out of balance to me.

In that scenario they would just pay off the pittance of 1.7 million and it wouldn't be an issue...

 

[hal2kilo]

What would be the debt limit in your rational world? Would it be a hard number or a percentage of assets? Would it also include credit score? Should we also look at where income originates? Maybe an in depth audit of the persons complete financial history would be the way to go?
I'm not against the idea, but I wonder how it would work.

That's what they do if you want a clearance. The president needs to have a clearance. Trump would never be able to get a clearance.

 

[Pens1566]

That's what they do if you want a clearance. The president needs to have a clearance. Trump would never be able to get a clearance.

Technically the President does not have a clearance. Neither do members of congress.

But you're right in that he'd never pass the evaluation that "normies" go through. For many many many reasons.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

So if a candidate had two billion in assets, but owed 1.7 million on their new yacht, they would be ineligible? That seems a little out of balance to me.

Yes, as stated if they have billions, they shouldn't owe anyone anything prior to running for office.

Having a few grand in outstanding debts can preclude us normies from getting security clearances, I don't see why public office holders should be held to a different standard.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

That's what they do if you want a clearance. The president needs to have a clearance. Trump would never be able to get a clearance.

Beat me to it.

 

[fskimospy]

What would be the debt limit in your rational world? Would it be a hard number or a percentage of assets? Would it also include credit score? Should we also look at where income originates? Maybe an in depth audit of the persons complete financial history would be the way to go?
I'm not against the idea, but I wonder how it would work.

I don't think there should be a legal prohibition from holding office but I think a rational voter would see someone that deeply in debt and decide that someone that compromised shouldn't hold high office.

Trump clearly doesn't have the money to cover these judgments, he said as much to the court, that means these guys have tremendous leverage over him.

 

[eelw]

Lol there’s 70 million irrational voters though

 

[fskimospy]

Lol there’s 70 million irrational voters though

Sure are, haha. At some point with a democracy it comes down to the voters though.