Trump: No Judges of Mexican Descent Allowed

[HomerJS]

Is Judge Curiel biased? One of the legal organizations he belongs to certainly is!

http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=df9a27c10b6d6ba38ba001440&id=f8a4a02241&e=cd8fc1ccd9%0A

Is Judge Curiel biased? The plaintiffs in the TU case wanted the trial to start immediately. This biased judge decided to start it after the election because he didn't want to interfere.

 

[hal2kilo]

His own lawyers came out and said they would not be seeking recusal as there was no grounds. And yet the idiots will keep on keeping on.

The fact that the Donald's legal team is not actually seeking recusal should speak volumes. As far as I know nothing has been filed to this point.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/actions-...-doing-his-job-in-trump-u-case-224338852.html

This is all a setup for when he looses the case. See I told you he was biased.

 

[Jaskalas]

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” -Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor - Rayycisst!

A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record

the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

Well then...

 

[Jaskalas]

Even conservatives recognize & condemn it for what it is-

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/06/03/overt-racism-looks-like/

They're also pro amnesty and have been fighting the Republican base ever since George W. Bush and John McCain tried to pass it.
Of course they're dynamically opposed to Trump, the establishment always has been.

 

[Moonbeam]

This is all a setup for when he looses the case. See I told you he was biased.

All of us folk who feel fucked over know that's exactly what will happen. If you are a conservative you will get fucked by the government and their liberal courts. Haha

 

[werepossum]

You do realize that words mean different things in different contexts, right?

I can't believe you just said 'don't listen to what those Spanish speakers say their language means, I took two years of Spanish.' That is fucking hilarious.

<sigh> Buy a Spanish dictionary. Or use a good online translator.

This payday loan advert?

Come on possum you're smarter than this

lol Evidently not. I missed the white text among all those flashing lights.

From your second link, "La Raza" means "the Human race" which means all of us, doesn't it?

Or didn't you read your own link?

<sigh> Read the paragraph just below that.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record


Well then...

What words happened before & after

 

[Jhhnn]

Is Judge Curiel biased? The plaintiffs in the TU case wanted the trial to start immediately. This biased judge decided to start it after the election because he didn't want to interfere.

Of course he's biased towards the great wall builder. He's a Mexican, right?

I do love the frantic dancing around the La Raza boogeyman, however. Oh God! La Raza! They're just like the Nazis! Donald's racism is better than their racism cuz he's White! Poor White People! So persecuted!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Of course he's biased towards the great wall builder. He's a Mexican, right?

I do love the frantic dancing around the La Raza boogeyman, however. Oh God! La Raza! They're just like the Nazis! Donald's racism is better than their racism cuz he's White! Poor White People! So persecuted!

and nobody builds fictitious walls better than drumpf

 

[werepossum]

From the second link:

You are so stupid.

From your example:
race
NOUN
1. (of people, animals)
a. la raza (f)
the human race la raza humana
race relations relaciones interraciales

The "human race" is a phrase that is functionally equivalent to "the human people" or simply "the people". However, one uses "race" and one uses "people". The word "human" ties them together and gives them essentially the same meaning, but the WORDS THEMSELVES mean different things. Similarly, "la raza humana" and "la gente humana" mean essentially the same thing. However, one would not say "el pueblo humano" anymore than one would say "the human people" because it's nonsensical; "pueblo" like "people" does not need a modifier to mean "people". "Race" and "raza" DO need a modifier to mean people, because on their own they mean a different thing.

This is evident in the history of the term - uniting all the non-white (and non-black) people of native descent against the white conquerors - as well as in La Raza's activities, which are exclusively to benefit those same people.

 

[jackstar7]

This is evident in the history of the term - uniting all the non-white (and non-black) people of native descent against the white conquerors - as well as in La Raza's activities, which are exclusively to benefit those same people.

And yet they've been courted by Republican leaders for years.

Funny that.

 

[fskimospy]

From your example:
race
NOUN
1. (of people, animals)
a. la raza (f)
the human race la raza humana
race relations relaciones interraciales

The "human race" is a phrase that is functionally equivalent to "the human people" or simply "the people". However, one uses "race" and one uses "people". The word "human" ties them together and gives them essentially the same meaning, but the WORDS THEMSELVES mean different things. Similarly, "la raza humana" and "la gente humana" mean essentially the same thing. However, one would not say "el pueblo humano" anymore than one would say "the human people" because it's nonsensical; "pueblo" like "people" does not need a modifier to mean "people". "Race" and "raza" DO need a modifier to mean people, because on their own they mean a different thing.

This is evident in the history of the term - uniting all the non-white (and non-black) people of native descent against the white conquerors - as well as in La Raza's activities, which are exclusively to benefit those same people.

You did have two years of Spanish, after all. You're probably an authority.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

drumpf plays the victim card, again.

Donald Trump sought Tuesday to quell the intensifying criticism over his comments about the impartiality of a federal judge, saying his remarks had been "misconstrued."

"Based on the rulings that I have received in the Trump University civil case, I feel justified in questioning whether I am receiving a fair trial," Trump said.

What a total whiny bitch. Aww, poor donny not getting his way, he's gonna pout and stomp his tiny feet.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/07/polit...e-trump-university-racist/index.html?adkey=bn

 

[hal2kilo]

drumpf plays the victim card, again.




What a total whiny bitch. Aww, poor donny not getting his way, he's gonna pout and stomp his tiny feet.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/07/polit...e-trump-university-racist/index.html?adkey=bn

We'll see how this cry baby bully thrashes Hillary.

 

[Moonbeam]

then put me on your fucking list already. you're a petulant child. And yes, if someone is running for the highest office in the land, you would hope they would have more decorum than that of the average citizen.
I tend to hold people who run for president to higher standards of behavior, and before you say bu..bu..bu... hillary, go fuck yourself with a rusty fireplace poker. I do not support her, I will be voting against drumpf not for hillary.
Not sure what I can do to get back on your list other than suggesting you toss drumpfs salad whenever the chance arises. Go play in traffic, go suck down a can of drano, in other words, fuck off, buck off.

You have a beautiful underbelly.

 

[Linux23]

Lmfao 😀

 

[werepossum]

And yet they've been courted by Republican leaders for years.

Funny that.

I think Republicans have merely tolerated La Raza. They court Hispanic voters because (A) they are voters and (B) because they tend to be socially conservative. For Republican leaders, a large block of anti-gay, anti-abortion voters is their own special triple-breasted woman.

You did have two years of Spanish, after all. You're probably an authority.

Nah, I just seem like an authority because I don't have to pretend something means something else.

You have a beautiful underbelly.

😀 😀 😀

 

[Bitek]

Despite the entertainment from watching a bunch of gringos debate the cultural meaning of La Raza based on internet S-E translators, the argument is a distraction.

When questioned, Trump responded because the judge is "a Mexican" and he's "building a wall, OK?!"

Also, Trump says Muslims can't be fair to him (presumably due to his ban.)

Not a specific Muslim judge, but as a generic statement of an entire class of people. This also was his intention with the "Mexican" judge.

Malign an entire class of people due the theory that they cannot possibly value professionalism and reason over loyalty to their tribe. I think his logic says far more about him than any minority group.

 

[lopri]

and nobody builds fictitious walls better than drumpf

His fingers are so distracting and disturbing.

 

[Meghan54]

Couple interesting bits here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...to-question-whether-hes-getting-a-fair-trial/


Curiel appointed the Robbins Geller law firm to represent plaintiffs

I've got a question about this. I've heard the Geller firm was appointed to the class case in 2014 by Judge Curiel. Just curious, what does that mean to you?

To me, if you say a judge appointed an attorney to a plaintiff/defendant, that means the judge picked the lawyer/law firm from amongst many, just picked a name from a hat, so to speak.



But that's not what transpired, at least completely.

The Geller firm has actually been intimately involved in this case since 2010 when they filed a lawsuit against Trump U. and Trump in CA for their client, Tarla Makaeff (Makaeff chose the law firm, the judge didn't appoint them to her). The firm was the original lead firm in this now messy situation Trump finds himself in.

(This is one of the earliest filings on the Makaeff v. Trump case I can find, dated Apr. 30, 2010)

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2723645-Makaeff-v-Trump-University.html


So, when the judge appointed Geller as the lead attorney in the class action lawsuit, now named Low v. Trump, it was because they'd already been very much involved in the litigation from day one, and because it was very easy to certify the law firm to take over the entire class suit because the Geller firm is a world renowned firm in these sorts of cases.

 

[emperus]

I've got a question about this. I've heard the Geller firm was appointed to the class case in 2014 by Judge Curiel. Just curious, what does that mean to you?

To me, if you say a judge appointed an attorney to a plaintiff/defendant, that means the judge picked the lawyer/law firm from amongst many, just picked a name from a hat, so to speak.



But that's not what transpired, at least completely.

The Geller firm has actually been intimately involved in this case since 2010 when they filed a lawsuit against Trump U. and Trump in CA for their client, Tarla Makaeff (Makaeff chose the law firm, the judge didn't appoint them to her). The firm was the original lead firm in this now messy situation Trump finds himself in.

(This is one of the earliest filings on the Makaeff v. Trump case I can find, dated Apr. 30, 2010)

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2723645-Makaeff-v-Trump-University.html


So, when the judge appointed Geller as the lead attorney in the class action lawsuit, now named Low v. Trump, it was because they'd already been very much involved in the litigation from day one, and because it was very easy to certify the law firm to take over the entire class suit because the Geller firm is a world renowned firm in these sorts of cases.

You're bringing too much logic into this. This is what the Republicans do. They redefine reality and force people to debate things that generally have been commonplace and normal.

There has been no debate whether the judge is biased. Trump's view of bias is someone who doesn't agree with him. Most court advisors believe the judge has generally ruled against the Plaintiffs. Like this one, which generally makes it much more difficult for the class action to proceed and is probably appeal-able.

http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2...protection/curiel-trump/#.V1bo0DYd2po.twitter

On September 18, 2015, Judge Curiel granted in part Trump’s motion for decertification of class action. This included a big win for Trump: Judge Curiel decertified all issues of damages, which means that each plaintiff will have to individually prove damages, even if the class action prevails at trial. It also included a loss for Trump on a technical issue that requires a little bit of explanation, because, later on, it was the only issue raised by Trump University in support of summary judgment.

 

[buckshot24]

Despite the entertainment from watching a bunch of gringos debate the cultural meaning of La Raza based on internet S-E translators, the argument is a distraction.

It isn't a huge issue for me as I've said pretty consistently that he shouldn't have brought up the judge's race. But "raza" does mean race, there is no doubt about that it doesn't mean "human race".

Also, Trump says Muslims can't be fair to him (presumably due to his ban.)

He didn't say that they can't be fair he said it is possible that they could have a bias.

Not a specific Muslim judge, but as a generic statement of an entire class of people. This also was his intention with the "Mexican" judge.

Since he only said that it was "possible" and not "they can't be fair", you're wrong.

 

[buckshot24]

Nah, I just seem like an authority because I don't have to pretend something means something else.

You are correct, he is wrong. That has never stoped ES to continue his intellectual elitism.

 

[Jhhnn]

It isn't a huge issue for me as I've said pretty consistently that he shouldn't have brought up the judge's race. But "raza" does mean race, there is no doubt about that it doesn't mean "human race".

He didn't say that they can't be fair he said it is possible that they could have a bias.
Since he only said that it was "possible" and not "they can't be fair", you're wrong.

And it's possible that Trump just blew the racist dog whistle so loud that it changed pitch & the rest of us could hear it, loud & clear.

 

[buckshot24]

And it's possible that Trump just blew the racist dog whistle so loud that it changed pitch & the rest of us could hear it, loud & clear.

Whatever you think, he didn't say that a Muslim judge couldn't be fair. To suggest otherwise is a misrepresentation.