soundforbjt
Lifer
- Feb 15, 2002
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Trump ran out of Sharpys?
Yeah it's funny how initially conservatives said taking his passports was a sign of the FBI gone wild. Yeah, turns out they had to take them because the storage of classified material was so bad that everything was intermingled.
Amazingly, you can't get away with hoarding criminal evidence by storing it among personal effects and documents covered by attorney-client privilege. Trump is still gonna try, though.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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It also ties the storage of the documents directly to Trump as opposed to, "lots of people work at Mar-a-lago; how was I to know they had classified documents?"
Yeah, they are joking about it now, but those passports may singularly fux him. I know exactly where my passports are. They are kept in a safe with other important documents(emergency cash, international cash..etc etc.). To argue you aren't aware which documents were next to and in the same location where you keep your 3 passports is highly dubious.
Kinda destroys any plausible deniability as well. Not like didn't see the big TS/SCI banners when he opened that drawer to place his personal effects inside.
Melania has released a statement saying she’s never permit him mixing this stuff with her things. But does make you wonder how many times he tried though.
Why would any attorney work for Trump. This attorney may need an attorney as well.
www.politico.com
Days before Mar-a-Lago subpoena, Trump lawyer claimed she scoured his office, closets and drawers
A filing by Alina Habba in the case over Trump’s business empire could create exposure in the matter of classified information being stored at the ex-president’s home.
www.politico.com
cytg111
Lifer
- Mar 17, 2008
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My bad. When I was watching the segment, it made it sound like she said it. It’s from someone close to her
An 'annoyed' Melania Trump stays mum on Mar-a-Lago search as she promotes NFT business
Shortly after the FBI searched his Mar-a-Lago home earlier this month, former President Donald Trump fumed on social media about agents rummaging through his wife's clothing and personal items.
www.cnn.com
HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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Fox News jettisons another one of their so called principles to continue backing Trump. Not that they had a any real beliefs other than tax cuts for the and conservative judges.
‘Fox and Friends': Brian Kilmeade Says FBI Trump Raid Proves Presidents Shouldn’t ‘Blindly Back the Blue’ (yahoo.com)
‘Fox and Friends': Brian Kilmeade Says FBI Trump Raid Proves Presidents Shouldn’t ‘Blindly Back the Blue’ (yahoo.com)
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Republicans were for the Blue.... before they were against the Blue.
I think it really just depends on what color the person the Blue is after.
White GOP person=Blue is bad.
Any non-white person=Blue is good, good shot, etc.
dank69
Lifer
- Oct 6, 2009
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Most people here don't form opinions without facts that support those opinions. Most here probably think forming opinions without supporting facts would be stupid.
ivwshane
Lifer
- May 15, 2000
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They actually took the passports on purpose because they were with some of the classified documents and they wanted to show intent.
Lezunto
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Who is Humble Pie?
I don't know how many times I have to say it, I am a Democrat.
Just not a Socialist or a Progressive.
Trump unsurprisingly tore up presidential records.
The biggest disaster facing the country is that Trump can do no wrong in the eyes of his supporters, who number a good 40% of the population. All he has to do is give his version of events or deny or spout the magic words "fake news" to absolve himself of anything no matter how serious it may be. Recipe for civil war.
What positions do you consider Democrat and what do you consider Socialist or Progressive that you don't support?
Lezunto
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- Oct 24, 2020
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I actually obey the rules. I worked at Walmart for 18 months, never stole a thing, nor did I help anyone else do so. Okay, I confess. A guy who was training me told me to help myself a cold bottle of water in the stockroom. So, I did. He told me later I could have been fired.
Why would I keep something that is marked classified and more importantly, how would I even get my hands on something like that? Like all working folks, my fantasy was to be behind an armored car on a lightly used road that overturned and its doors spilled open and loose bills are filling the air.
The closest I came to something top secret is when I was sitting next to a Japanese shipping executive on a flight back to Newark. Forget where I was coming from, but it was some convention I had covered.
Not realizing that the rumpled guy sitting in the window seat was a reporter who actually knew about this industry, he pulled out a thin binder with a design for a new containership. I could not copy it. Couldn't even reach into my bag for a Reporter's Notebook pad.
I furtively glances filed away the company name, and tried to memorize the dimensions of ship and its carrying capacity. My boy noticed me eyeing his pages, but never said anything.
That's it. Wanna arrest me? Accuse me of stealing trade secrets? Gather your evidence and then ... get one of those warrants, affidavits and what else? One of those subpeenee things. And then you can (gasp!) CHARGE me ... go ahead.
Emperus, they might have waited for you. I hear you got movie star looks.
Lezunto
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- Oct 24, 2020
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Let's put it this way, I did not like the way Bernie's people treated Hillary supporters such as myself all through 2016 and then have 10% of them vote for Trump in revenge.
As far as Progressives go, many of you are what I call "some timey." Sometimes you're with Democrats, other times you're not. I prefer folks who have my back - behind my back.
- Dec 12, 2000
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New Trumpian defense: Espionage is such a “mundane” crime.
No, seriously, that’s his defense lawyer talking.
No, seriously, that’s his defense lawyer talking.
If I were the Rosenbergs I would be so pissed I got executed for such a mundane crime.
Circular word salad defense.
She's not his lawyer. She's his PR person. And she's very good at pivoting mid-sentence so you don't have time to actually consider the reality behind any of her statements.
That would all mean jack shit in a court of law. To any extent she could capitalize on this talent and her other "talents" in opening/closing statements to a jury, she can't prevent the prosecution from methodically laying a foundation for why serious crimes were committed and presenting evidence thereof.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Trump's public statement / defense is that he declassified the documents.
He's a special kind of stupid. This is a power he does not have. But Republicans are claiming it is real and it sounds good, so Trump goes for it.
Such a defense cuts off other notions, such as someone else did it! Someone else put it there. Not after he claims knowledge, ownership, etc.
He is cutting himself off from deniability through sheer stupidity.
He's a special kind of stupid. This is a power he does not have. But Republicans are claiming it is real and it sounds good, so Trump goes for it.
Such a defense cuts off other notions, such as someone else did it! Someone else put it there. Not after he claims knowledge, ownership, etc.
He is cutting himself off from deniability through sheer stupidity.
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