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iRONic

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The Corcoan Memos…?!?!

JFC I can’t keep track of all the filings and pleadings in this slam-fucking-dunk case against the tangerine treason twat!! Did the prosecution get these memos from when he was subpoenaed to testify before Congress?

Mar-a-Lago search warrant was properly granted, says Trump documents judge | Donald Trump | The Guardian

The Corcoran memos – the contents of which were first reported by the Guardian last year – have played a major role in bolstering the charge that Trump conspired with Nauta and De Oliveira to play a “shell game” in hiding boxes of classified documents so Corcoran could not ensure their return.

The indictment quoted the memos as saying Trump responded: “Well, what if we, what happens if we just don’t respond at all or don’t play ball with them?” and “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?” and “Well, look, isn’t it better if there are no documents?”

After Corcoran found 38 classified documents in the storage room, his memos recount Trump asking him, “Did you find anything? …… Is it bad? Good?”, and made a sort of plucking motion, suggesting “if there’s anything really bad in there, like, pluck it out”.

Trump’s lawyers were also expected to argue that none of the commentary – about Trump asking whether they needed to comply with the subpoena, or the plucking motion – satisfied the crime-fraud exception because it did not amount to Trump using Corcoran’s legal advice for a crime.
 

Dave_5k

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She pressed government attorneys to provide more information about the funding of special counsel Smith's investigation, at one point remarking that the funding presents a "separation of powers concern."

She’s just making shit up now. She could have ruled on this from the bench, back when it was introduced. This has been thoroughly adjudicated, multiple times.
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My prediction: In the end, she’ll deny the defense’s motion. But not before she’s chewed up a lot more time pretending it’s a motion worthy of hearing.
She's already wasted over two months on this - cancelling all other progress on the case until she spent time pondering, debating, and having briefs on these various non-stop inane Trump appeals that might as well have been submitted by aliens from outer space for all of their relevance and legitimacy.

As she doesn't want to have any judgement that can be appealed and have her shit-canned from the case, she will either deny the defense motion, or I think more likely, will defer judgement for a month or so and not enter any final ruling that could be appealed. And then ultimately deny it without prejudice on some technical ground allowing Trump to re-file a "corrected" claim for further hearing and delay.
 

cytg111

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Wait Cannon was advised by her elders, Chief Judge, to recuse herself before she decided to keep the case?

I think its fair to suggest that Cannon is a partisan hack out of Clarence Thomas playbook. Corrupt piece of shit.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Wait Cannon was advised by her elders, Chief Judge, to recuse herself before she decided to keep the case?

I think its fair to suggest that Cannon is a partisan hack out of Clarence Thomas playbook. Corrupt piece of shit.
Link to credible source?
 

eelw

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BWAHAHAHA Cannon dismissed the entire case because he wasn’t appointed properly

Waves bye bye to the idiot. But how long will appeals take?
 

Motostu

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WTAF

I guess she's confident he's going to win and knows she'll get a seat on SCOTUS.
 
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This is probably a good thing honestly, as I believe this is finally an appealable motion on her part that Smith can use to get her removed.
Yes, in that regard, having her finally take some concrete, appealable action is a good thing. She could have just kept slow rolling the case.
 

eelw

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Appeal court will overrule. They’ll remove her from the case even without Smith asking. But do they have to power to remove her from the bench? But even if removed, won’t stop the next Repugican POTUS to nominate her
 
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brycejones

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Appeal court will overrule. They’ll remove her from the case even without Smith asking. But do they have to power to remove her from the bench? But even if removed, won’t stop the next Repugican POTUS to nominate her
The only way she can be removed is to be impeached and convicted. Also even if the appeals court reverses her Trump will appeal to SCOTUS and I wouldn’t be shocked if the court took it up.

Cannon just gave Trump at least another 9-12 month delay.
 

eelw

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The only way she can be removed is to be impeached and convicted. Also even if the appeals court reverses her Trump will appeal to SCOTUS and I wouldn’t be shocked if the court took it up.

Cannon just gave Trump at least another 9-12 month delay.
But the Alaskan judge was given the boot by the bench?
 

fskimospy

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The only way she can be removed is to be impeached and convicted. Also even if the appeals court reverses her Trump will appeal to SCOTUS and I wouldn’t be shocked if the court took it up.

Cannon just gave Trump at least another 9-12 month delay.
Yeah the main issue here is that it gives SCOTUS another excuse to delay.

Seems like Smith’s best bets are to either refile in DC or take his shot at having her removed now. This is a ridiculous enough ruling he probably has a good shot at removal and if he isn’t moving it to DC she will just keep doing this shit until she is removed.
 

eelw

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Hmm the logic behind her is that Smith isn’t a DOJ official. Doh SCOTUS will agree with this
 

K1052

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This case was never going to trial before the election so deciding to beclown one's self like this is a curious decision from anybody except maybe her.
 

gothuevos

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This is probably a good thing honestly, as I believe this is finally an appealable motion on her part that Smith can use to get her removed.

To the 11th circuit? And who oversees that?

And it likely ends up in front of SCOTUS, whose Federalist Society helped her write up that ruling in the first place.

It will never go to trial.
 

fskimospy

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To the 11th circuit? And who oversees that?

And it likely ends up in front of SCOTUS, whose Federalist Society helped her write up that ruling in the first place.

It will never go to trial.
Exactly one justice endorsed that view.

If Trump wins I agree it will never go to trial. If he loses it will and he will be convicted.
 

Fenixgoon

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Dumb question, if this is Canon's reasoning for dismissing the case, why wasn't that done in the beginning? This isn't some new revelation. Or does Trump's team have to float that as an argument for dismissal?