News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

[fskimospy]

Let’s see what Cannon rules about immunity in regards to PRA after hearing arguments later this month. If more likely when she rules for the orange monkey, Smith will definitely look to get her removed. Unfortunately this will delay definitely for a few months. If she actually rejects immunity claims, then orange monkey will delay, delay, delay with appeals. Dumb SCOTUS will definitely write the other immunity ruling to not cover documents issues.

I don’t think she’s going to rule in his favor there because, as you mention, it will get her removed. I think she’s just going to do the slowest slow walk to ever slow walk in order to push the trial until after the election.

 

[tweaker2]

So I harken back to that very minute where Cannon was *randomly* chosen to provide *fair and impartial judgement* over this highly controversial case that could ultimately lead to the incarceration of a known criminal whose notoriety for escaping and evading justice is established fact and who just so happens to be in the running for our nation's highest position of leadership.

And I laughed this somewhat cynical laugh of sorts, shook my head at the thought of Cannon, who had already been proven beyond doubt that she was entirely in Trump's back pocket and shouldn't be anywhere near him, especially where she can apply her *ahem* "fair and impartial charms" to a repeat performance of her disgusting and roundly criticized delaying tactics she is now infamous for. Yet there she is, being *randomly* picked to provide interference for Trump's fate of being convicted AGAIN for crimes against The People.

Justice is being blatantly and arrogantly defiled by the corrupted conservative SCOTUS members and lower courts, by the HOR hypocritically misnomer'ed "Freedom Caucus" and by his cult following that believe he can do no wrong despite the overwhelming irrefutable documented evidence to the contrary.


And the whole world is watching this battle between democracy and authoritarianism. What is common sense to the world's democracies that Trump should never again attempt to force the USA into a gov't run by theocratically influenced autocrats backed by a small number of powerful oligarchs is lost on those folks who incredulously believe that Trump must be our POTUS in the same way Putin is Russia's perpetual president, the same way Xi Jinping is China's president, et al.

edit - added the word "is"

 

[eelw]

Yes Cannon is only one of over 20 federal judges in Florida, but in the southern part where this case was filed, she is one of the three assigned to that area. So yes it was pure dumb luck she was assigned and not some conspiracy

 

[JTsyo]

Yes Cannon is only one of over 20 federal judges in Florida, but in the southern part where this case was filed, she is one of the three assigned to that area. So yes it was pure dumb luck she was assigned and not some conspiracy

Just luck? How many judges are there supposed to be in south Florida? Why are there empty slots? Her chances should have been half of what it was. Think now there's 5 judges with one spot still empty.

 

[hal2kilo]

If it wasn't for Cannon his goose would be cooked. Witness No. 5, Butler will be his down fall. Comes off as just an normal person. Yea, working for Trump.

Legal experts: Trump witness has "startling evidence" for jury

Judge Cannon's "outrageous bias" raises questions about whether there will be a trial at all, says Norm Eisen.

www.salon.com

 

[Pens1566]

Just luck? How many judges are there supposed to be in south Florida? Why are there empty slots? Her chances should have been half of what it was. Think now there's 5 judges with one spot still empty.

IIRC, it had something to do with an earlier filing from Trump that he originated in Ft. Pierce where she is the ONLY judge. Since that earlier motion was hers, the case was directed to her as well. Creative judge-shopping.

 

[hal2kilo]

If it wasn't for Cannon his goose would be cooked. Witness No. 5, Butler will be his down fall. Comes off as just an normal person. Yea, working for Trump.

Legal experts: Trump witness has "startling evidence" for jury

Judge Cannon's "outrageous bias" raises questions about whether there will be a trial at all, says Norm Eisen.

www.salon.com

By the way, he did his interview with CNN because Cannon wasn't going to protect him from being publicly identified.

 

[APU_Fusion]

By the way, he did his interview with CNN because Cannon wasn't going to protect him from being publicly identified.

This is unconscionable for a judge. Basically asking for witnesses to be sleeping with da fishes.

 

[Dave_5k]

On the surface, lots of news calling this bad news for Trump that Cannon didn't dismiss the case. Rather, it is outstanding news for Trump, with Cannon still 110% in his corner and dragging things out indefinitely with Trumpian logic driving all trial timelines and details.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-classified-documents-georgia-election-interference

If Cannon had ruled for Trump, Jack Smith would've had a trivial home-run getting this rapidly reversed by the appellate court, and solid basis to ask for Cannon removal. Instead, Cannon drags this out again - refusing to make a final ruling of any sort on the Presidential Records Act, instead strongly implying she plans to let Trump present it as a defense at trial but is carefully avoiding making any appealable ruling on it while she drags her feet on all of the trial details.

I would note the 11th Circuit already specifically ruled, in harshly reversing Cannon previously, that Trump's claim to have declassified the documents and therefore they belong to him as personal documents is a meaningless red herring. Claiming national security documents as "personal" was already ruled a non-starter in over-ruling Cannon once, but she persists in slavishly following this Trump logic despite prior reversal. To wit, even magically assuming Trump declassified the documents (for which exactly zero evidence and zero legal claims have been filed):

11th Circuit: "In any event, at least for these purposes, the declassification argument is a red herring because declassifying an official document would not change its content or render it personal," the three-judge panel wrote. "So even if we assumed that [Trump] did declassify some or all of the documents, that would not explain why he has a personal interest in them."

 

[eelw]

It is silly a higher court can’t just intervene in such obvious incompetence.

 

[Pens1566]

On the surface, lots of news calling this bad news for Trump that Cannon didn't dismiss the case. Rather, it is outstanding news for Trump, with Cannon still 110% in his corner and dragging things out indefinitely with Trumpian logic driving all trial timelines and details.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-classified-documents-georgia-election-interference

If Cannon had ruled for Trump, Jack Smith would've had a trivial home-run getting this rapidly reversed by the appellate court, and solid basis to ask for Cannon removal. Instead, Cannon drags this out again - refusing to make a final ruling of any sort on the Presidential Records Act, instead strongly implying she plans to let Trump present it as a defense at trial but is carefully avoiding making any appealable ruling on it while she drags her feet on all of the trial details.

I would note the 11th Circuit already specifically ruled, in harshly reversing Cannon previously, that Trump's claim to have declassified the documents and therefore they belong to him as personal documents is a meaningless red herring. Claiming national security documents as "personal" was already ruled a non-starter in over-ruling Cannon once, but she persists in slavishly following this Trump logic despite prior reversal. To wit, even magically assuming Trump declassified the documents (for which exactly zero evidence and zero legal claims have been filed):

11th Circuit: "In any event, at least for these purposes, the declassification argument is a red herring because declassifying an official document would not change its content or render it personal," the three-judge panel wrote. "So even if we assumed that [Trump] did declassify some or all of the documents, that would not explain why he has a personal interest in them."

Yeah, it wasn't a final order so it just keeps everything in a still gray area.

My legal guru thinks there's one more move from the prosecution before going to the 11th and that's an in limine motion to exclude the PRA. She has to rule and that will force the issue, likely to the 11th (she'll reject it) where it'll all get decided.

It'll be fun to see someone debate how a civil statute has any bearing on a criminal matter. I'd say it should be an easy call, but way too much legal calvinball going on lately to make sane predictions.

 

[cytg111]

Another covering of this aspect, Cannon is essentially setting the stage for a “pardon”…

 

[fskimospy]

It is silly a higher court can’t just intervene in such obvious incompetence.

They can, but they have to be asked to. Definitely looks like Smith is going to do that relatively soon.

 

[BoomerD]

So…Trump is speaking out about Jack Smith “attacking” the judge in this case…because, after all…OMG! who in their right mind would dare to speak out against a sitting judge in a case in which they’re involved?

Donald Trump blasts Jack Smith for "attacking" Aileen Cannon

Trump lashed out over Jack Smith's court filing saying the special counsel should be "sanctioned or censured" for "attacking" Cannon.

www.newsweek.com

"Deranged 'Special' Counsel Jack Smith, who has a long record of failure as a prosecutor, including a unanimous decision against him in the U.S. Supreme Court, should be sanctioned or censured for the way he is attacking a highly respected Judge, Aileen Cannon, who is presiding over his FAKE Documents Hoax case in Florida," the former president wrote in a post on his social media platform, Truth Social.

 

[eelw]

So…Trump is speaking out about Jack Smith “attacking” the judge in this case…because, after all…OMG! who in their right mind would dare to speak out against a sitting judge in a case in which they’re involved?

Yup the blatant hypocrisy that comes out of their mouth, unsure if they too stupid to see it or not.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yup the blatant hypocrisy that comes out of their mouth, unsure if they too stupid to see it or not.

It's now a feature of whatever identity this Trump/Pub party is.

 

[tweaker2]

So…Trump is speaking out about Jack Smith “attacking” the judge in this case…because, after all…OMG! who in their right mind would dare to speak out against a sitting judge in a case in which they’re involved?

Donald Trump blasts Jack Smith for "attacking" Aileen Cannon

Trump lashed out over Jack Smith's court filing saying the special counsel should be "sanctioned or censured" for "attacking" Cannon.

www.newsweek.com

Definitely not a surprise for Trump to lash out at his enemies like the cornered rat that he is. However, from the view that his cult mob see things, he is fighting their fight. He is standing tall for them. For them it really doesn't matter how blatantly guilty and complicit he is. For them it's all very personal.

Trump is a voodoo doll and every cut he feels his followers feel. Every insult thrown at him is a personal insult to them. His fate is their fate. His lies are their immoral sermons from the mount of Trump Tower.

Add to it all is Trump's racist misanthropic attitude that he has infected his hordes of misguided acolytes with.

What could go wrong has gone wrong and however bizarre, however surreal and politically catastrophic Trump has turned the body politic into, it's here, it's now and more and more folks are being normalized by the constant attacks Trump and his sycophants are mounting against "the Deep State", the "wicked lying media", our own security services and the "hoax deeply compromised method" our system of voting is run. Suspicion and mistrust is what Trump sells and business is booming.

 

[fskimospy]

So…Trump is speaking out about Jack Smith “attacking” the judge in this case…because, after all…OMG! who in their right mind would dare to speak out against a sitting judge in a case in which they’re involved?

Donald Trump blasts Jack Smith for "attacking" Aileen Cannon

Trump lashed out over Jack Smith's court filing saying the special counsel should be "sanctioned or censured" for "attacking" Cannon.

www.newsweek.com

This is a pretty transparent way to try and muddy the waters so he can say 'everyone is attacking judges, why am I being singled out?!'.

 

[QueBert]

So…Trump is speaking out about Jack Smith “attacking” the judge in this case…because, after all…OMG! who in their right mind would dare to speak out against a sitting judge in a case in which they’re involved?

Donald Trump blasts Jack Smith for "attacking" Aileen Cannon

Trump lashed out over Jack Smith's court filing saying the special counsel should be "sanctioned or censured" for "attacking" Cannon.

www.newsweek.com

And meanwhile, Trump wants Fani Willis off his Georgia case because she had sex with a co worker lol.

 

[fskimospy]

I get how for litigation while in office the president can’t be limited to only judges they didn’t appoint but once out of office it should be absolute common sense that your cases can’t be handled by someone who owes their job to you.

 

[Zorba]

It is silly a higher court can’t just intervene in such obvious incompetence.

It's silly this woman could be on the bench for 30 more years and there is nothing that can be done to get rid of her. Trump will likely make her a supreme court justice if he wins. Probably promising that too her already through back channels.

 

[eelw]

It's silly this woman could be on the bench for 30 more years and there is nothing that can be done to get rid of her. Trump will likely make her a supreme court justice if he wins. Probably promising that too her already through back channels.

Nominated but doubt she’ll get past committee hearings

 

[ivwshane]

I get how for litigation while in office the president can’t be limited to only judges they didn’t appoint but once out of office it should be absolute common sense that your cases can’t be handled by someone who owes their job to you.

You are implying that judges cannot be impartial. Obviously there are some who are not but if we don’t have that kind of basic trust in them then the whole system needs to be reworked until the trust can be restored.

 

[IronWing]

Nominated but doubt she’ll get past committee hearings

Boof Boy sailed right through.

 

[Zorba]

This is a pretty transparent way to try and muddy the waters so he can say 'everyone is attacking judges, why am I being singled out?!'.

Has Jack Smith even actually publicly said anything against Cannon? I haven't seen anything.