Trump just fired Comey!

[interchange]

You call him ignorant after he called you ignorant. I personally wonder how to tell who is right.

What about the possibility that both are right? With no context for the accusations of ignorance, that would be my first working theory.

 

[mikeymikec]

Lol, I have to laugh at the people who believe that Trump did the right thing in firing Comey.

Then again, these are the same who would had voted for Hitler, and they are the ones who believe the Holocaust is fake.

Frankly this is the same kind of BS that brandonbull just spouted on this page or the previous one in response to zinfamous. While I'm sure that a venn diagram of those two groups would show some overlap, it's absolutism to believe that they completely overlap.

 

[HomerJS]

LOL I knew the "both sides" canard would eventually come out.

Yeah that both sides talking point is the..........get ready for the alliteration
biggest bucket of bullshit

 

[Pens1566]

If articles of impeachment are drafted, I'll take that bet.

Same. He won't resign. It's not in his personality (disorder) to admit anything.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Even if I had evaluated him personally, I couldn't ethically provide a clinical assessment of his personality. Perhaps it's blurry, but I do think I can criticize his actions and point out his inconsistencies, disagree with his policies, and even speculate on future behavior.

Aside from that, I'm not sure which position you are actually taking. I am saying that I would be willing to take an internet forum bet of some sort wherein, should articles of impeachment be drafted, my horse would be on Trump not resigning prior to a vote.

I do not mean to imply that this choice would represent any level of ego function.

I was asking you as a more open minded poster, not in your professional capacity but how you answer and your reasons are not my business.

I've worn more than one hat and at one time was in a situation where I needed to make predictive assessments based on observed actions. While this may involve gaining a sense of personality was not an enumeration of clinical markers so much as empiricism and we were far better than applied guessing. That's why I thought the question might be fair game, one person looking at another and speculating as an ordinary but informed person.

 

[Pens1566]

Oh hey, turns out that Comey had asked Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein (you know, one of the people primarily involved in firing Comey) for an increase in funding for the Russia investigation just days before.

But I'm sure that's purely a coincidence, and not at all an attempt to stifle an investigation into Rosenstein's bosses right as it ramps up.

And there's your obstruction of justice evidence.

 

[hal2kilo]

Joe Arpaio?

What's sad is that it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Ironic that you call out one of the more coherent posters here as incoherent and claim there's more evidence against Obama colluding with the russians than there is of drumpf colluding.
seek help bull boy

 

[SMOGZINN]

Same. He won't resign. It's not in his personality (disorder) to admit anything.

Oh, he will resign. He just has to frame it right first. He is going to resign not because he is about to be impeached. Oh, no! He will resign because he is not getting the respect he deserves and refuses to continue to put in all the hard work for a country that doesn't appreciate it. You won't have Trump to kick around anymore.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yeah that both sides talking point is the..........get ready for the alliteration
biggest bucket of bullshit

Based on the talking points both sides are right...........so I guess we have two gigantic buckets of shit as usual.

 

[Commodus]

Russian press was allowed into Trump's meeting with the Russian foreign minister... the American press was not.

But her emails!

 

[Pens1566]

Russian press was allowed into Trump's meeting with the Russian foreign minister... the American press was not.

But her emails!

They're more open with their press ...

 

[IronWing]

Russian press was allowed into Trump's meeting with the Russian foreign minister... the American press was not.

But her emails!

That's okay. More Americans get their news from RT than any other news source.

 

[Grooveriding]

They're more open with their press ...

Well the State does control the media in Russia, so they're good hombres. Trump would be all too glad to move forward with wholly State controlled media. Right now he only has Breitbart, dailycaller, gatewaypundit and conspiracy theorists like Cernovich and Jones. He needs full control of all outlets like Putin has to make the media great again.

 

[UNCjigga]

Nobody is buying your anti-American, fascist fear mongering Progressive party line crap. There is more evidence against Obama and his admin conspiring with the Russians than there is against Trump. We lived through 8 years of backroom deals and red lines with Russia and Iran during Obama's reign.

I actually feel sorry that your mental state is not being addressed and you are allowed to constantly insult and belittle the members of this forum. Maybe you could try posting something coherent and not personally attacking people because you appear to lack the facilitates to mentally cope with people having opinions and ideas that are not inline with yours? If your are truly self aware about the world around you, I can only imagine the bleak outlook you have because reality must be quite the weight on your shoulders to carry around. I take no personal offense to your outbursts direct at myself and other posters.

And this fucking guy can't differentiate his rage radar between global diplomacy (which, admittedly, the Obama administration made some horrible missteps wrt Syria, Libya, Iran & Russia) vs. CRIMINAL collusion with a foreign power interfering in our democracy.

Just look in the mirror and ask yourself one question--at what point can you stop making excuses for the dumpster fire that is the Trump Administration and admit that for all their faults, nothing the Obama administration ever did in the first 100 days comes close to this level of incompetence?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And there's your obstruction of justice evidence.

But it is not proof and that is what is needed. I just read Rosenstein's letter and sad to say he has a lot of points against Comey. It looked fairly objective and so I am not convinced that the DAG is complicit in a coverup. After all Comey was shown this past week to have made serious lapses of judgement for which he didn't repent. In a sane country it would be a fair argument for replacement, which is what the Dems did. Unfortunately Trump can use the proper and correct to do harm and injustice. I'm leaning towards putting this entirely on Trump and possibly the AG, but I have doubts in accusing the DAG at this time.

 

[OutHouse]

The tears are delicious.

Idiots demand Comey's resignation. Idiots claim he isn't doing his job.

And then idiots cry foul when he is actually fired.

The only sad thing is that there are Americans who actually voted for these fools and put them in office. Hopefully this blatant hypocrisy will cost the democrats some more votes.

lol yea its funny as shit watching the conspiracy fools in here run around with their hair on fire. the LULZ in this thread are top notch.

 

[kage69]

Heh. Angus King is asking that Comey be selected to be the lead in an independent investigation. Oh how amazing that would be.

To paraphrase Obi Wan - You can't win, Trump. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Bloody hell, that would be incredible. Yet again I am proud of Angus King.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Bloody hell, that would be incredible. Yet again I am proud of Angus King.

Careful, he's an Independent and those few like these days

 

[zinfamous]

Oh hey, turns out that Comey had asked Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein (you know, one of the people primarily involved in firing Comey) for an increase in funding for the Russia investigation just days before.

But I'm sure that's purely a coincidence, and not at all an attempt to stifle an investigation into Rosenstein's bosses right as it ramps up.

wow, so potential obstruction of justice for the deputy AG as well? fascinating.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

wow, so potential obstruction of justice for the deputy AG as well? fascinating.

As I said don't be too quick to judge just yet. Comey asks the DAG who would certainly kick the request around with his superiors and should. Naturally Trump would be triggered, but we need to make sure we understand who is the messenger and who is the culprit.

 

[Pens1566]

But it is not proof and that is what is needed. I just read Rosenstein's letter and sad to say he has a lot of points against Comey. It looked fairly objective and so I am not convinced that the DAG is complicit in a coverup. After all Comey was shown this past week to have made serious lapses of judgement for which he didn't repent. In a sane country it would be a fair argument for replacement, which is what the Dems did. Unfortunately Trump can use the proper and correct to do harm and injustice. I'm leaning towards putting this entirely on Trump and possibly the AG, but I have doubts in accusing the DAG at this time.

I'm not insinuating that it would have to be the DAG who is complicit. Comey asking him for more funding doesn't limit that ask just to the DAG. I'm sure the request was informed up the chain.

In fact, I don't disagree with Rosenstein or his points. They would make complete sense IF this was the decision in January. But not now. Now it's simply the excuse that was apparently requested. And to boot, in his letter, Rosenstein never specifically asked for or recommended anything. I think that's his "out".

 

[theeedude]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192

He had grown enraged by the Russia investigation, two advisers said, frustrated by his inability to control the mushrooming narrative around Russia. He repeatedly asked aides why the Russia investigation wouldn’t disappear and demanded they speak out for him. He would sometimes scream at television clips about the probe, one adviser said.

Are we at impeachment yet?

 

[Commodus]

lol yea its funny as shit watching the conspiracy fools in here run around with their hair on fire. the LULZ in this thread are top notch.

So you think Trump and crew just decided out of the blue to fire Comey using reasons they could have offered months earlier, and that Trump's "I'm really glad you said you're not investigating me, but I'm firing you anyway" letter didn't at least raise eyebrows?

 

[Indus]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192

Are we at impeachment yet?

Never ever will it happen with the GOP in control.