Trump: Jail time for people who burn the American flag

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Moonbeam

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If you say so.
If you don't let your dog out it will poop on the floor. He has a lot of pent up aggression He's one of those mean old men like the Blue Meanies and Apple Bonkers the Beatles warned about. Board a yellow submarine and dive beneath the waves. Poop down there has all transformed into an octopus's garden.
 

Herr Kutz

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You know what would be even more ridiculous than this? Banning Americans from wearing a tshirt that displays the American flag. Hope that day never comes...
 

MrSquished

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First, I don't think burning the flag should be a crime so we're on the same page there. Anyway, it is a false statement and I was right?

It's partially misleading. Trump did explicitly say he absolutely wanted flag burning protestors punished. Aka you have to make it illegal and a crime.

He did not explicitly say he wanted either 'up to a year' or 'citizenship stripping' as the punishments.

But he really came damn close to saying that about the punishments. He definitely put them forward as a logical and desired possible outcome for the crime.
 

kage69

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It's like he's on a mission to prove to America he's as ignorant and petty as his critics say he is.

Just...wow. Funny stuff coming from a Scalia fan.
 

buckshot24

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it doesn't matter that it was a tweet, what part of this don't you understand?

"Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

do you understand the word nobody? do you understand the implications of suggesting loss of citizenship or a year in jail?

stop being such an idiot and accept that you disagree with the demagogue.
Haha, you just want to be unfair and unbalanced. Your choice. Comparing a tweet with a fully fledged out law is the height of insanity and the meltdown continues. You go right ahead.
 

agent00f

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Haha, you just want to be unfair and balanced. Your choice. Comparing a tweet with a fully fledged out law is the height of insanity and the meltdown continues. You go right ahead.

You know it's bad when even his supporters admit he's a pathological liar.
 

alien42

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Haha, you just want to be unfair and balanced. Your choice. Comparing a tweet with a fully fledged out law is the height of insanity and the meltdown continues. You go right ahead.

i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

oh, that's right, more bullshit flowing from that hole in your face.
 

buckshot24

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It's partially misleading. Trump did explicitly say he absolutely wanted flag burning protestors punished. Aka you have to make it illegal and a crime.

He did not explicitly say he wanted either 'up to a year' or 'citizenship stripping' as the punishments.

But he really came damn close to saying that about the punishments. He definitely put them forward as a logical and desired possible outcome for the crime.
Ok fair enough, not really worth arguing over. Flag burning shouldn't be criminalized and that much we can agree on.
 

buckshot24

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i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

oh, that's right, more bullshit flowing from that hole in your face.
Are you being an idiot on accident or is this purposeful? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is on purpose.
 

agent00f

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LOL, Trumpsters don't even try to hide the fact they're in the running for the worst garbage out there.
 

alien42

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Are you being an idiot on accident or is this purposeful? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is on purpose.

once again, i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

you can be as dishonest as you want but when you lie about something i said or did, i will call you out on it.

own up to your own mistakes like a real man.
 

agent00f

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once again, i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

you can be as dishonest as you want but when you lie about something i said or did, i will call you out on it.

own up to your own mistakes like a real man.

In all fairness this is somewhat off. Buckshot's not lying himself here as much as pointing out trump is a liar, therefore trump's lie cannot be compared to clinton who was ostensibly not lying.

Of course the fact he proclaims to be so very christian yet willfully worships a false idol is quite revealing.
 

buckshot24

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once again, i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

you can be as dishonest as you want but when you lie about something i said or did, i will call you out on it.

own up to your own mistakes like a real man.
I'm scared.

You just did it though. You were parsing his tweet as if it were a legal document. Apparently this wasn't on purpose.
 

MrSquished

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Haha, you just want to be unfair and unbalanced. Your choice. Comparing a tweet with a fully fledged out law is the height of insanity and the meltdown continues. You go right ahead.

You asked me to evaluate a sentence that had nothing in it about a fully fledged law or anything. Are you having a meltdown and need me to quote your query? Or can you manage it yourself.
 

buckshot24

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You asked me to evaluate a sentence that had nothing in it about a fully fledged law or anything. Are you having a meltdown and need me to quote your query? Or can you manage it yourself.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't directed at you.
 

alien42

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I'm scared.

You just did it though. You were parsing his tweet as if it were a legal document. Apparently this wasn't on purpose.

don't be scared of being a real man, own your mistakes and learn from them.

you are possibly the most dishonest person i have ever interacted with, and that's saying a lot.
 

Moonbeam

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once again, i never compared a tweet to a fledged out law so wtf are you talking about?

you can be as dishonest as you want but when you lie about something i said or did, i will call you out on it.

own up to your own mistakes like a real man.
His point is that if Trump Twitters an intention to build a gas chamber, the final product will not necessarily look like the original plan. For example that the final product may use a newly invented more toxic gas than previously planned.
 

nickqt

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President-elect Trump, future head of the executive branch of the US Government, tweets that he personally believes that US citizens should have their US citizenship stripped and then imprisoned, for expressing a Constitutional right.

Period.

Attempting to spin that away makes you one of Trump's most valued chumps.

So, anyone attempting to spin it..congrats on being a valued Trump's Chump.

Eat healthy, work out, and take your vitamins, because you're going to be spinning his bullshit for at least the next 4 years while lying to yourself that you aren't just a low-life Chump for a Strongman buffoon.
 

buckshot24

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don't be scared of being a real man, own your mistakes and learn from them.

you are possibly the most dishonest person i have ever interacted with, and that's saying a lot.
You just parsed a tweet as if it were a legal document noting the language therein to say that there weren't any exceptions. I haven't made any mistakes to own up to.
 

Chaotic42

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Supporting free speech doesn't mean being okay with the blonde-haired, blue-eyed family down the street being Methodist instead of Baptist. It's being able to walk past the Satan-worshiping, flag burning, interracial lesbian couple and saying "I may not agree with how you live your lives, but your rights to do so are just as important as mine."
 
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agent00f

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President-elect Trump, future head of the executive branch of the US Government, tweets that he personally believes that US citizens should have their US citizenship stripped and then imprisoned, for expressing a Constitutional right.

Period.

Attempting to spin that away makes you one of Trump's most valued chumps.

So, anyone attempting to spin it..congrats on being a valued Trump's Chump.

Eat healthy, work out, and take your vitamins, because you're going to be spinning his bullshit for at least the next 4 years while lying to yourself that you aren't just a low-life Chump for a Strongman buffoon.

Chump frankly downplays how effective they can be. Buckshot's milked many earnest replies out of honest people.
 

alien42

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You just parsed a tweet as if it were a legal document noting the language therein to say that there weren't any exceptions. I haven't made any mistakes to own up to.

it was just a fucking sentence and i didn't parse it, that would be breaking down the grammar of the sentence.

there weren't any exceptions, period. you continue to be wrong as everyone has repeatedly pointed out.

you are an idiot as usual and i'm done with your bullshit. i can't wait for you to get banned again.