Trump: Jail time for people who burn the American flag

Moonbeam · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
The point is we don't know what a possible Trump bill would look like, all we have is a tweet. I don't have any idea nor do I make any unreasonable assumptions about what it would look like.

You realize, I hope, that no policy proposed by anybody that has not materialized can be judged for what it looks like. What people normally mean by predicting somebody's intentions when they speak is to look at their personal history and make an educated guess. Judging by his tweet and the content, or lack of content, to his character the ineluctably sensible thing to imagine is a f-ing disaster. You just aren't there yet. You're in denial and wish to avoid the obvious moral cost to your character. You are on the wrong side. Get out now before the rats abandoning ship line gets too long.

fskimospy · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
He didn't "explicitly" say he wanted to do anything in his tweet. You simply cannot be trusted to accurately represent anybody you disagree with.

Of course he did.

Someone who is as dishonest as you are has no room to make a judgment on anyone. I mean just look at the pathetic dodge you just tried here where you claimed that you were misrepresented and then refused to say how. That was such a transparent lie it's pathetic.

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

Moonbeam said:
You realize, I hope, that no policy proposed by anybody that has not materialized can be judged for what it looks like. What people normally mean by predicting somebody's intentions when they speak is to look at their personal history and make an educated guess. Judging by his tweet and the content, or lack of content, to his character the ineluctably sensible thing to imagine is a f-ing disaster. You just aren't there yet. You're in denial and wish to avoid the obvious moral cost to your character. You are on the wrong side. Get out now before the rats abandoning ship line gets too long.

Do you cook your paint chips before you eat them or do you eat them raw?

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

fskimospy said:
Of course he did.

Someone who is as dishonest as you are has no room to make a judgment on anyone. I mean just look at the pathetic dodge you just tried here where you claimed that you were misrepresented and then refused to say how. That was such a transparent lie it's pathetic.

No he didn't. You're lying.

fskimospy · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
He didn't say he wanted to do anything. Is lying a hobby of yours?

I honestly have no time for this level of childish lying. Grow up.

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

I didn't say "exactly" what you said I said. What more do I need to show?

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

fskimospy said:
I honestly have no time for this level of childish lying. Grow up.

Quit lying then. Trump didn't explicitly express any desires in his tweet. You lied and are lying to try and obfuscate your lying. Just quit lying.

raildogg · Nov 29, 2016

Didn't say similar things when during the election? I recall him saying some patriotic BS or another.

The flag waving followers totally fell for it but that isn't surprising. Patriotic people usually want a leader to follow behind.

MrSquished · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
Quit lying then. Trump didn't explicitly express any desires in his tweet. You lied and are lying to try and obfuscate your lying. Just quit lying.

He didn't express any desires? What are you talking about, the whole tweet implies he desires something. "There MUST be consequences". He then goes on to suggest potential punishments. Why would he suggest punishments if he didn't somewhat desire them? You don't suggest solutions if you don't believe in them.

Words matter. They matter even more when you are President-elect.

fskimospy · Nov 29, 2016

PixelSquish said:
He didn't express any desires? What are you talking about, the whole tweet implies he desires something. "There MUST be consequences". He then goes on to suggest potential punishments. Why would he suggest punishments if he didn't somewhat desire them? You don't suggest solutions if you don't believe in them.

Words matter. They matter even more when you are President-elect.

He's in full buckshat meltdown mode now. No point in trying to reason with him anymore.

Victorian Gray · Nov 29, 2016

Jaskalas said:
As an American born in America, where would Mr. Trump deport me?

Australia?

agent00f · Nov 29, 2016

fskimospy said:
He does seem to be emotionally unstable to say the least. More importantly though I don't think he sees a difference between his personal goals and the country's goals. If he did I doubt he would be quite so brazen about his corruption.

Remember this is the guy who proclaimed he can shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose any supporters. Everyone understands what the deal is even if some choose to lie about it.

Victorian Gray · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
He's a complete hack.

No, it's more nuanced than that.

ivwshane · Nov 29, 2016

tweaker2 said:
The idea of Trump symbolically wrapping himself in OUR flag in order to score "patriot points" with his base is disgusting.

It's just another cheap trick in a bagful of others that he's used to fool people into supporting his efforts to get his self-interested way.

And people keep buying into Trump's duplicitous chicanery as if he's never lied to them before.

Simply amazing.

Trump's formula of riling up his base with scary fairy tales and then setting himself up as the cavalry coming to their rescue is his way of spreading the pack of lies he's infecting the nation with. He repeats this same skit over and over again, and it's so blatantly obvious that I'm at a loss for words to explain why it works so well. And I'm so certain that he is constantly laughing his ass off at how easy it is to sell that snake oil of his and make fools of those that buy it like drug addicts buy their daily fix.

All I'm wondering now is just how long this Barnum and Bailey act of his is going to last.

Until the baby boomer generation starts dying off in mass numbers.

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

PixelSquish said:
He didn't express any desires? What are you talking about, the whole tweet implies he desires something. "There MUST be consequences". He then goes on to suggest potential punishments. Why would he suggest punishments if he didn't somewhat desire them? You don't suggest solutions if you don't believe in them.

Words matter. They matter even more when you are President-elect.

Is this a true statement?

"Then the new Republican president is explicitly saying he wants to jail people for protesting and strip them of their citizenship."

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

Victorian Gray said:
No, it's more nuanced than that.

It always is.

brycejones · Nov 29, 2016

fskimospy said:
He's in full buckshat meltdown mode now. No point in trying to reason with him ever.

ftfy

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

fskimospy said:
He's in full buckshat meltdown mode now. No point in trying to reason with him anymore.

He didn't agree with you, you still lied.

Puffnstuff · Nov 29, 2016

While I find it distasteful that a person would seek to burn the very flag that represents the freedoms that they now enjoy the freedom of expression is still in play and provides them with the right to do so in much the same way an obese bible waving church person can go to the buffet after Sunday service and gorge themselves.

Londo_Jowo · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 should change his username to fiddleplayer24 as he plays all the liberals in this forum like a fiddle.........LMAO!!!!

MrSquished · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
Is this a true statement?

"Then the new Republican president is explicitly saying he wants to jail people for protesting and strip them of their citizenship."

What Trump said explicitly is that flag burning should be made illegal and be punished.

He didn't explicitly say 1 year in jail or stripping citizenship for the consequences. However he made a strong statement that those are reasonable and desired possible outcomes because they are the only two he suggested. So there seems to be a shortlist.

Either way it's scary shit.

buckshot24 · Nov 29, 2016

PixelSquish said:
What Trump said explicitly is that flag burning should be made illegal and be punished.

He didn't explicitly say 1 year in jail or stripping citizenship for the consequences. However he made a strong statement that those are reasonable and desired possible outcomes because they are the only two he suggested. So there seems to be a shortlist.

Either way it's scary shit.

First, I don't think burning the flag should be a crime so we're on the same page there. Anyway, it is a false statement and I was right?

Puffnstuff · Nov 29, 2016

Doesn't anyone else see the irony in his behavior? Do as I say and not as I do has a new face in this country.

Victorian Gray · Nov 29, 2016

Londo_Jowo said:
buckshot24 should change his username to fiddleplayer24 as he plays all the liberals in this forum like a fiddle.........LMAO!!!!

If you say so.

alien42 · Nov 29, 2016

buckshot24 said:
Of course there aren't any limitations in a short "tweet" which is why you knuckleheads comparing a tweet with a multipage full fledged bill is the dumbest thing you could do. If he proposes a bill that has no limitations THEN you can compare the two things.

it doesn't matter that it was a tweet, what part of this don't you understand?

"Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

do you understand the word nobody? do you understand the implications of suggesting loss of citizenship or a year in jail?

stop being such an idiot and accept that you disagree with the demagogue.

Trump: Jail time for people who burn the American flag

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