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Texashiker

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And there we have it, a textbook example of willful ignorance. (again)

You are being obtuse.


"Was Trump ever accused to racism before he ran for president? Has trump or his businesses ever been sued for discrimination?

Do you have anything to back up your statements?"

Ok, yes, he was sued for discrimination,,,, in the 1970s.

Does not make him a raciest today.
 
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Ok, yes, he was sued for discrimination,,,, in the 1970s.

Does not make him a raciest today.

"Was Trump ever accused to racism before he ran for president?

Has trump or his businesses ever been sued for discrimination?

Do you have anything to back up your statements?"
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Poor liberals do not understand what happens when they tell lies.

We understand perfectly. Your wife leaves you and makes you pay child support and you can't keep a job consistently.

Perhaps its time you stop lying to yourself and everybody else.
 

UglyCasanova

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All this name calling and mudslinging aside, even if trump is a racist does that mean no one can show support for his candidacy on a university campus? One of the posters above mentioned that a university campus was no a place to express political support and ideas. Per the girl in the video a university is supposed to be a safe space. Does anyone on here actually agree with this? If so what's your rationale?
 
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Still trying to figure out why the actions of 2 students out of a total enrollment of about 38,000 is so important.
 

UglyCasanova

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Because these two are just another example of a widespread mentality sweeping higher ed that attempts to control and restrict freedom of speech. Is this video or the participants thereof important? No of course not. Is the mentality gripping higher ed demanding safe spaces and restricting speech that may be deemed offensive to some important? Absolutely.

Does anyone on here support this?
 

Jaskalas

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Yes it happened, a long time ago.

Does that make him a racist today?
just makes him an old-school racist

If 40-50 years ago is all you've got...
Democrat Party... paging Robert Byrd.

Seems you pick and choose who gets to turn a new leaf and move on from a society of 40-50 years ago. In Trump's case it was largely his father's business in the 60s. While he actively played a role in the 70s where it continued, one has to wonder the other interests at play, and the others players involved.

Does Trump disavow racism? Absolutely.
So what did the Democrat's grand wizard do differently?
 

agent00f

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If 40-50 years ago is all you've got...
Democrat Party... paging Robert Byrd.

Seems you pick and choose who gets to turn a new leaf and move on from a society of 40-50 years ago. In Trump's case it was largely his father's business in the 60s. While he actively played a role in the 70s where it continued, one has to wonder the other interests at play, and the others players involved.

Does Trump disavow racism? Absolutely.
So what did the Democrat's grand wizard do differently?

Must be a coincidence the actual klanfolk all seem to support him out of a rather large GOP field.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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If 40-50 years ago is all you've got...
Democrat Party... paging Robert Byrd.

Seems you pick and choose who gets to turn a new leaf and move on from a society of 40-50 years ago. In Trump's case it was largely his father's business in the 60s. While he actively played a role in the 70s where it continued, one has to wonder the other interests at play, and the others players involved.

Does Trump disavow racism? Absolutely.
So what did the Democrat's grand wizard do differently?

I'd love to hear trump or anyone who has worked with trump come out and tell us how he regrets his racist views. I'd love to hear trump tell us what he and his dad did regarding discrimination was wrong and something he regretted. I'd love to see how trump was so embarrassed by his views that he became a supporter of black people and did what he could to help them out.

Because those are some of the things the former racist Robert Byrd did to show how he changed.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...9-robert-byrd-a-true-statesman-rep-john-lewis


When can we expect these examples?
 
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Because these two are just another example of a widespread mentality sweeping higher ed that attempts to control and restrict freedom of speech. Is this video or the participants thereof important? No of course not. Is the mentality gripping higher ed demanding safe spaces and restricting speech that may be deemed offensive to some important? Absolutely.

Does anyone on here support this?

2 out of 38,000 is not an example of something being particularly "widespread". The words mountain and molehill come to mind.
 

disappoint

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Because these two are just another example of a widespread mentality sweeping higher ed that attempts to control and restrict freedom of speech. Is this video or the participants thereof important? No of course not. Is the mentality gripping higher ed demanding safe spaces and restricting speech that may be deemed offensive to some important? Absolutely.

Does anyone on here support this?

Support what? Restriction of speech? There are already restrictions to certain speech as I'm sure you're aware. Speech that could be harmful for example yelling "fire!" in a crowded place if there isn't a fire, or saying "I have a bomb" just as 2 examples. I'm sure you could come up with other examples.

I support freedom of speech that isn't harmful. Although I can make a good argument for further restrictions of speech.

If you're really interested in the source of the argument against free speech check out this site: http://hubguitar.com/articles/discouraging-thoughts

It's a site that talks about the psychology behind why people quit learning something like a musical instrument, in that case a guitar.

Negative Self-Talk
  • Example: “I suck.”
    Common source: Discouraging experiences.
    Solution: Reach outside of your comfort zone, but don’t put yourself into a situation where you might crash and burn. Seek supportive environments. Stay away from friends who don’t support you. Find the fun in music.

See the part about "stay away from friends who don't support you"? The reason for this is although part of you might brush off or forget about negative talk from your friends or family, your subconscious mind does not. To further complicate matters your subconscious mind does not by default distinguish fact from fiction very well. This is why you can go see a movie you know is not real, yet purposefully decide to allow suspension of disbelief to take place temporarily.

There is no reason to hate yourself because of this flaw, it isn't a flaw so much as a feature with a possible bad side effect. I call it a feature because it makes creativity possible which is the engine of invention without which we would lead a very boring existence. Imagine if no one could invent anything new ever? Remember inventing something new requires believing something that isn't real yet is possible.

Anyway back to the side effect. The negative self talk people do to themselves sometimes can be generated by negative talk others have spoken to them, even if your conscious mind doesn't believe it's true, brushed it off as insignificant or has long been forgotten. The subconscious never forgets, it can bubble up later when you don't expect it and you won't be aware of it's source. At least not right away. There are methods to access and find the source of the thought or emotion but that is another topic.

Despite this, some think it should be each individual person's responsibility to separate themselves from people who would negatively influence them or learn to control their thoughts and emotions, and not up to the government or institution of higher learning via restriction of speech.

Edited to add:
Then again some also believe it should be up to individuals themselves to decide not to imbibe in or abuse potentially harmful substances such as drugs or alcohol, and not up to the government. However not everyone agrees with this because they want the government to step in and stop people from harming themselves. That is because they feel empathetic toward people who make bad decisions because they realize they have at times made bad decisions as well and it could happen to them. This urge to "put yourself in other peoples shoes" is called empathy.

Now consider for a moment if instead of someone deciding to take drugs, that another person was secretly poisoning them with drugs.

At this point I think we would all agree that an authority should step in and stop this action, which is why we have laws against it.

Now what if that harmful substance was not a drug but information that the person administering it knows is harmful but the person receiving it is not aware of the harm it can do?

Should there be a law against it? Don't answer too hastily unless you are aware of the scope of how harmful information can be.
 
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alcoholbob

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Lol while you have at the same time Canadian "feminist" PM at the same time praising the diversity of Canada that it has gender segregated mosques. Authoritarian lefties--it's bad when the right does it, but it's okay when the left does it.