Trump gave up one of our spies to his boyfriend Putin.

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glenn1

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Couldn't have happened to nicer people than the spy agencies for whom American citizens and residents are the main target of their total surveillance via evesdropping of every means of communication and database out there.
 

Sunburn74

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Couldn't have happened to nicer people than the spy agencies for whom American citizens and residents are the main target of their total surveillance via evesdropping of every means of communication and database out there.
Seems like a weird thing to say. You basically want our intelligence community to be crippled and ineffective? Seems like a weird request.
 

Commodus

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I love that this is the kind of thing that gets you guys going wild. :)

The President being so much of a fuckup that he'd rather falsify important weather data than admit that he's wrong? Yeah, that's a problem.
 

Sunburn74

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The President being so much of a fuckup that he'd rather falsify important weather data than admit that he's wrong? Yeah, that's a problem.
Or that US military assets know they can be compromised with a 3am drunken tweet.
 

mect

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The President being so much of a fuckup that he'd rather falsify important weather data than admit that he's wrong? Yeah, that's a problem.
And that he fucks up so consistently that everyone just assumes he's lying and ignores what he says. What a great quality for a leader.
 

glenn1

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Seems like a weird thing to say. You basically want our intelligence community to be crippled and ineffective? Seems like a weird request.

Not like it's ever going to happen since if they were crippled the spying on citizens would be the very last thing they'd give up, but otherwise yes, I think our military we spend more than the next 20 countries combined or whatever could do without one less morsel of HUMINT in our next actual war with Russia. Edward Snowden showed the risks of our spy agencies far outweigh any benefits by several orders of magnitude.
 

Sunburn74

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Not like it's ever going to happen since if they were crippled the spying on citizens would be the very last thing they'd give up, but otherwise yes, I think our military we spend more than the next 20 countries combined or whatever could do without one less morsel of HUMINT in our next actual war with Russia. Edward Snowden showed the risks of our spy agencies far outweigh any benefits by several orders of magnitude.
I would disagree with you. The problematic domestic surveillance you're referring to is specific to one particular agency and is subject to congressional and judicial oversight (although congress in its dysfunctional state has really failed to take a good look at the issue. I won't discuss judicial oversight much because its largely been a failure due to the fact that judicial review is not adversarial in these cases). Other agencies have different domains and jurisdictions. Overall, I'm not a fan of broad domestic surveillance but it seems foolish to throw the baby out with the bathwater, especially when it comes to monitoring the activities of foreign countries that do pose immediate threats to US security (such as russia, NK, and china etc)
 

brandonbull

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Trump made the correct decision to out our spy. Tell us how Mueller said there was no obstruction again when he said there was? We love fairy stories.
I guess you have different versions of the Mueller report and his testimony than what was publicly released.
 

brandonbull

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Seems like a weird thing to say. You basically want our intelligence community to be crippled and ineffective? Seems like a weird request.
Sorta like people that are hoping for the country to fail so Trump isn't reelected.
 

SlowSpyder

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ci...on-russian-double-agents-alleged-exfiltration

The Central Intelligence Agency on Monday evening slammed what it called CNN's "misguided" and "simply false" reporting, after the cable channel's chief national security correspondent authored a hole-filled piece claiming that the CIA had pulled a high-level spy out of Russia because President Trump had "repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy."

CNN is fake news.
 
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VRAMdemon

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So, apparently, the US needed to get a top spy in Russia out before Trump blew his cover. Once again, it looks like Putin's investment in Trump is paying off in spades.

All this while he attempted to allow Al Queda to set foot on American soil. The 25th please.
 

Viper1j

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So, apparently, the US needed to get a top spy in Russia out before Trump blew his cover. Once again, it looks like Putin's investment in Trump is paying off in spades.

All this while he attempted to allow Al Queda to set foot on American soil. The 25th please.

What he said..

It may very well be too late for the 25th. You can't unring a bell.

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