Trump gave up one of our spies to his boyfriend Putin.

Viper1j

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WTF? I KNEW he was a Russian asset.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017

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In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.

A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.

The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.

The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.
At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or "exfiltration" as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.

A US official said before the secret operation there was media speculation about the existence of such a covert source, and such coverage or public speculation poses risks to the safety of anyone a foreign government suspects may be involved. This official did not identify any public reporting to that effect at the time of this decision and CNN could not find any related reference in media reports.

Asked for comment, Brittany Bramell, the CIA director of public affairs, told CNN: "CNN's narrative that the Central Intelligence Agency makes life-or-death decisions based on anything other than objective analysis and sound collection is simply false. Misguided speculation that the President's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence—which he has access to each and every day—drove an alleged exfiltration operation is inaccurate."

A spokesperson for Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declined to comment. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said, "CNN's reporting is not only incorrect, it has the potential to put lives in danger."

Wide concerns about Trump in intelligence community

The removal happened at a time of wide concern in the intelligence community about mishandling of intelligence by Trump and his administration. Those concerns were described to CNN by five sources who served in the Trump administration, intelligence agencies and Congress.

Those concerns continued to grow in the period after Trump's Oval Office meeting with Kislyak and Lavrov. Weeks after the decision to extract the spy, in July 2017, Trump met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Hamburg and took the unusual step of confiscating the interpreter's notes. Afterward, intelligence officials again expressed concern that the President may have improperly discussed classified intelligence with Russia, according to an intelligence source with knowledge of the intelligence community's response to the Trump-Putin meeting.

Knowledge of the Russian covert source's existence was highly restricted within the US government and intelligence agencies. According to one source, there was "no equal alternative" inside the Russian government, providing both insight and information on Putin.

CNN is withholding several details about the spy to reduce the risk of the person's identification.

The secret removal of the high-level Russian asset has left the US without one of its key sources on the inner workings of the Kremlin and the plans and thinking of the Russian president at a time when tensions between the two nations have been growing. The US intelligence community considers Russia one of the two greatest threats to US national security, along with China.

"The impact would be huge because it is so hard to develop sources like that in any denied area, particularly Russia, because the surveillance and security there is so stringent," a former senior intelligence official told CNN. "You can't reacquire a capability like that overnight."

Months of mounting fear

The decision to pull the asset out of Russia was the culmination of months of mounting fear within the intelligence community.

At the end of the Obama administration, US intelligence officials had already expressed concerns about the safety of this spy and other Russian assets, given the length of their cooperation with the US, according to a former senior intelligence official.

Those concerns grew in early 2017 after the US intelligence community released its public report on Russian meddling in the 2016 election, which said Putin himself ordered the operation. The intelligence community also shared a classified version of the report with the incoming Trump administration, and it included highly protected details on the sources behind the intelligence. Senior US intelligence officials considered extracting at least one Russian asset at the time but did not do so, according to the former senior intelligence official.

In the first months of his administration, Trump's handling of classified intelligence further concerned intelligence officials. Ultimately, they decided to launch the difficult operation to remove an asset who had been working for the US for years.

The President was informed in advance of the extraction, along with a small number of senior officials. Details of the extraction itself remain secret and the whereabouts of the asset today are unknown to CNN.
 

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https://www.nj.com/weather/2019/09/...he-storm-could-affect-nj-later-this-week.html

Here is a projection from 9/3. Is any part of AL in that path? Yup. Trump was right again, media peddling lies per the norm.


the image from noaa is dated 9/2

the controversy is if hurricane dorian is going to hit alabama not tropical storm dorian is going to hit again it was noted in the image.

Note i have no idea if the tropical storm uses the same name as the hurricane or if they name a tropical storm at all.
 

Greenman

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Great story, reads like a Tom Clancy novel. The only real question is if there is any truth to it.
 
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But....but.... this can’t be true the President is the best negotiator and the toughest on Russia.
 

tweaker2

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Denial is not a defense strategy I'd use when it comes to defending Trump's incompetence, his unique relationship with Putin and the fact that there are piles of evidence that Trump has had many years of financial dealings with a known money laundering bank through which Trump had made loans backed by various Russian oligarchs.

They and Putin own Trump's ass, clear and simple.
 

UNCjigga

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Am I missing something here? Sounds like the CIA made the decision to remove the spy from Russia out of an abundance of caution...not Trump. Thread title is a bit misleading?
 

tweaker2

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Am I missing something here? Sounds like the CIA made the decision to remove the spy from Russia out of an abundance of caution...not Trump. Thread title is a bit misleading?


Trump's incompetence toward handling sensitive intelligence data along with his close relationship with Putin seems to be the tipping point.

It's like mixing nitric acid with glycerine.
 

tweaker2

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Trump's sharpie map didn't look like that. Or have you forgotten?


Not forgotten, just conveniently ignored like so many other occasions where Trump's stupidity causes mass denial and avoidance syndrome among his supporters.
 

kage69

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Am I missing something here? Sounds like the CIA made the decision to remove the spy from Russia out of an abundance of caution...not Trump. Thread title is a bit misleading?

It is a bit misleading, I agree.

This story is just another aspect of what our guys have had to do since they started working for a conspiracy theorist and moron turned Putin lackey. Trump the Moron is a tremendous victory for foreign intelligence efforts, but hey at least he's reviled the world over (except Russia), a pathological liar and quite possibly the 21st century's worst negotiator/deal maker.

Glad to know we still have patriots willing to protect this country and allies from this dipshit traitor.