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Trump crushes French President Macron

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ecogen said:
I know you think that, and that's fine. Why are you so upset that I'm genuinely entertained by making fun of slow, and why do you find it so hard to believe that I find it more entertaining than "yelling at my mirror", as you put it?
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How do you figure I'm upset?
 
ecogen said:
You seem pretty upset. Maybe you're the one that needs help?
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Maybe. Can you point to why you think that? I would bet its an attempt to try and turn the tables because you don't like what I have said, and have no response, but, maybe you do have something.
 
SlowSpyder said:
The tweets speak for themselves. He's absolutely right and called it like it is.
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No, but if that's how you feel. We can arrive at WWIII as you wish since Trump seeks to undermine the west while beaming at your ally Putin.

Going back to WWI, what do you think was the event which eventually led to the Great War where those who served were disrespected far more by Trump than any knee in a football game? Hint, it wasn't the Archduke. That was merely the match on the field of gasoline.
 
realibrad said:
Maybe. Can you point to why you think that? I would bet its an attempt to try and turn the tables because you don't like what I have said, and have no response, but, maybe you do have something.
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Well, you're an excessive nitpicker, you seem to keep missing the forest for the trees in most conversations, you have a poor understanding of how to use statistics etc. You could use some help dealing with those matters.

I don't really mind what you said about me needing help, but that's mostly because I don't really care about your opinion on the issue as I'm sure you don't care about my opinion on you needing help.
 
ecogen said:
Well, you're an excessive nitpicker, you seem to keep missing the forest for the trees in most conversations, you have a poor understanding of how to use statistics etc. You could use some help dealing with those matters.

I don't really mind what you said about me needing help, but that's mostly because I don't really care about your opinion on the issue as I'm sure you don't care about my opinion on you needing help.
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When have you and I ever talked about statistics hmmm....

If I did not care about your opinions, would I ask for them?
 
realibrad said:
When have you and I ever talked about statistics hmmm....

If I did not care about your opinions, would I ask for them?
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When you claimed that London's murder rate had passed NYC's and I pointed out that London had a higher murder rate for a single month and that your claim was wrong since you can't take a single data point and make a such a statement. Obviously you proceeded to defend that claim to the end.

As for your second question, why not?
 
ecogen said:
When you claimed that London's murder rate had passed NYC's and I pointed out that London had a higher murder rate for a single month and that your claim was wrong since you can't take a single data point and make a such a statement. Obviously you proceeded to defend that claim to the end.

As for your second question, why not?
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Ah. Well, it appears that you still do not get the point that was made then. Its factually correct, but, misleading to take a single point of data as the basis of an argument. That is why you need context. Its still strange you do not get that.

Anyway, what did you see that made you believe I was angry again?

This...

"Well, you're an excessive nitpicker, you seem to keep missing the forest for the trees in most conversations, you have a poor understanding of how to use statistics etc. You could use some help dealing with those matters."

Just says why you might find it hard to talk to me. It says nothing as to why you would think I was upset in any way. Was that a deflection maybe?
 
realibrad said:
Ah. Well, it appears that you still do not get the point that was made then. Its factually correct, but, misleading to take a single point of data as the basis of an argument. That is why you need context. Its still strange you do not get that.
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Thus proving my point that you do not know how to use statistics. Thanks.


realibrad said:
"Well, you're an excessive nitpicker, you seem to keep missing the forest for the trees in most conversations, you have a poor understanding of how to use statistics etc. You could use some help dealing with those matters."

Just says why you might find it hard to talk to me. It says nothing as to why you would think I was upset in any way. Was that a deflection maybe?
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Well, talking to a brick wall is pretty hard. At least this particular brick wall seems to get upset which makes it a tad easier and somewhat entertaining.
 
ecogen said:
Thus proving my point that you do not know how to use statistics. Thanks.




Well, talking to a brick wall is pretty hard. At least this particular brick wall seems to get upset which makes it a tad easier and somewhat entertaining.
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Ah. Okay so your plan was to shift to something that you could say I got wrong, because you have nothing.
 
realibrad said:
Ah. Okay so your plan was to shift to something that you could say I got wrong, because you have nothing.
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I mean, you claimed London passed NYC's murder rate recently by using a single outlying data point. Doesn't get much more wrong than that.
 
SlowSpyder said:
The tweets speak for themselves. He's absolutely right and called it like it is.
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Indeed they do. When Trump threatens Nato the Europeans will obviously try to compensate for that by joining forces on their own. They wouldn't have a prayer against Putin if they didn't. Witness Ukraine & Georgia prior to that. Trump attacks Macron for even suggesting such a sensible thing & you lap it up.
 
Jhhnn said:
Indeed they do. When Trump threatens Nato the Europeans will obviously try to compensate for that by joining forces on their own. They wouldn't have a prayer against Putin if they didn't. Witness Ukraine & Georgia prior to that. Trump attacks Macron for even suggesting such a sensible thing & you lap it up.
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This isn't really accurate. Russia's army is effectively much smaller than they like to project. Most of their forces are decommissioned and in disrepair. Russia can't afford to maintain them. Militarily Russia isn't much of a threat to the EU, that's why they're using information warfare.
 
ecogen said:
This isn't really accurate. Russia's army is effectively much smaller than they like to project. Most of their forces are decommissioned and in disrepair. Russia can't afford to maintain them. Militarily Russia isn't much of a threat to the EU, that's why they're using information warfare.
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It's also why they're turning the US against its oldest ally. Putin wants Trump to fight his wars for him.
 
Vic said:
It's also why they're turning the US against its oldest ally. Putin wants Trump to fight his wars for him.
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No argument there. Trump is the perfect useful idiot, but your media is the thing that paved the way for this bullshit to be possible, when you have brainwashed people to the extent that they don't find it strange to flip flop between two opposing position in the span of a minute and just support what they're told to support you're kinda screwed.

We're starting to get some of that shit here with Poland, Hungary and Italy. Hopefully now that the refugee crisis is starting to die down the fucktards will slowly start to lose popularity again.
 
ecogen said:
This isn't really accurate. Russia's army is effectively much smaller than they like to project. Most of their forces are decommissioned and in disrepair. Russia can't afford to maintain them. Militarily Russia isn't much of a threat to the EU, that's why they're using information warfare.
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Russia's resources & capabilities are enormous in comparison to individual Nato countries on their borders. Putin is a nationalist bent on making Russia great again. Part of that is always militarism. Crimea is of strategic importance, so when the situation presented itself, he took it. When the opportunity to punish Ukraine further in the Donbass arose, he took that too. If he can peel the Baltic republics away from their western neighbors he'll probably act much the same.

Putin waged an enormous propaganda campaign in Ukraine to facilitate the election of Yanukovich whose lootocratic ways weakened Ukraine even further after a series of lousy govts. When it all fell down, Putin took what he wanted.
 
Jhhnn said:
Russia's resources & capabilities are enormous in comparison to individual Nato countries on their borders. Putin is a nationalist bent on making Russia great again. Part of that is always militarism. Crimea is of strategic importance, so when the situation presented itself, he took it. When the opportunity to punish Ukraine further in the Donbass arose, he took that too. If he can peel the Baltic republics away from their western neighbors he'll probably act much the same.

Putin waged an enormous propaganda campaign in Ukraine to facilitate the election of Yanukovich whose lootocratic ways weakened Ukraine even further after a series of lousy govts. When it all fell down, Putin took what he wanted.
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I don't disagree with most of what you're saying.

But keep in mind Ukraine wasn't in NATO or the EU, that was the issue unfortunately. I'm not trying to throw excuses but unfortunately this was a case of realpolitik in action. Russia doesn't have the balls for direct military action on any NATO or EU country's borders. Hopefully the rest of the Baltic states will follow Montenegro's example and join NATO.
 
ecogen said:
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying.

But keep in mind Ukraine wasn't in NATO or the EU, that was the issue unfortunately. I'm not trying to throw excuses but unfortunately this was a case of realpolitik in action. Russia doesn't have the balls for direct military action on any NATO or EU country's borders. Hopefully the rest of the Baltic states will follow Montenegro's example and join NATO.
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The Baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania & Estonia are already part of Nato. They were part of the USSR from WW2 until 1991 or so when the breakup occurred. They are strategically important to Russia. Promoting nationalism is part of weakening Nato, of course. Why should Poles or Germans fight for those people, anyway? Why should Americans, either? Our lives are more important than theirs, right?
 
SlowSpyder said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...pproval-ratings-french-surrender-to-the-nazis

Trump is absolutely right again. I don't know that he should have tweeted these, but he is spot on and I care more about logic than feelings.

The tweet highlights:
“Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia. But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two - How did that work out for France?” and ”They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not!”

"The problem is that Emmanuel suffers from a very low Approval Rating in France, 26%, and an unemployment rate of almost 10%. He was just trying to get onto another subject. By the way, there is no country more Nationalist than France, very proud people-and rightfully so!........"

"On Trade, France makes excellent wine, but so does the U.S. The problem is that France makes it very hard for the U.S. to sell its wines into France, and charges big Tariffs, whereas the U.S. makes it easy for French wines, and charges very small Tariffs. Not fair, must change!"
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ROFL
 
Jhhnn said:
The Baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania & Estonia are already part of Nato. They were part of the USSR from WW2 until 1991 or so when the breakup occurred. They are strategically important to Russia. Promoting nationalism is part of weakening Nato, of course. Why should Poles or Germans fight for those people, anyway? Why should Americans, either? Our lives are more important than theirs, right?
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Fuck me, I come back and find out that I committed a Trump. I'm a fucking moron. Saw the story about him confusing the Balkans with the Baltics and apparently it stuck. I was referring to Bosnia and Serbia IIRC which are the only Balkan countries that have not joined yet.
 
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