Trump claims "Historic Growth in Q2." Ranks 5th after the top 5 Obama Quarters

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dphantom

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Now see how stupid you are? You're being duped. Every one of those articles is talking about YEARLY SUSTAINED GROWTH AVERAGE. Not quarterly. The Trumps are using a mediocre QUARTERLY growth rate and comparing it to these articles that are plainly stating yearly sustained average and you fell for it. Like a fucking dupe.

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4% is a solid growth rate - not mediocre. Obama and Bush before him were mediocre with annual growth rates. As I mentioned earlier, we'll see if this is sustained. I suspect not on an annual basis but hope for the best. I do think a 3% annual is not out of the question for 2018 which would beat all 8 years of Obama. But again, we'll have to see especially with tariffs in sight.
 

trenchfoot

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Trump riding on Obama's recovery coat tails tooting his clown car horn is comedy gold. Trump's whole tenure has in toto been about Trump making a traitorous Putin loving jackass of himself while claiming himself to be the stallion who saved America from the evil godless Hillary bringing ruin and damnation to the nation.
 

dphantom

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Hillary is really the one in collusion with russians. nothing illegal but if u want a russian story, go after that one. trump has no collusion story.

and riding Obama coattails...really?? Obama and Bush before him had the worst economic performance in a very long time. 16 years of agonizing, painful economic activity. Way too early to say anything about Trump so we'll see what the next year or two looks like.
 

fskimospy

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Hillary is really the one in collusion with russians. nothing illegal but if u want a russian story, go after that one. trump has no collusion story.

and riding Obama coattails...really?? Obama and Bush before him had the worst economic performance in a very long time. 16 years of agonizing, painful economic activity. Way too early to say anything about Trump so we'll see what the next year or two looks like.

This is insane. I don’t know what right wing media you’ve been reading but you’re off the deep end. There’s no collusion of Clinton with the Russians, there’s massive evidence of Trump collusion with Russians. After all, we have the explicit statement by the Russian government that they wanted Trump to win.

Trump’s economic performance so far is fine, slightly worse than Obama’s. That’s just math.
 

Capt Caveman

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Hillary is really the one in collusion with russians. nothing illegal but if u want a russian story, go after that one. trump has no collusion story.

and riding Obama coattails...really?? Obama and Bush before him had the worst economic performance in a very long time. 16 years of agonizing, painful economic activity. Way too early to say anything about Trump so we'll see what the next year or two looks like.

Oh look, someone that believes Russian Fake News. Next, you'll tell us that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.
 

dphantom

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This is insane. I don’t know what right wing media you’ve been reading but you’re off the deep end. There’s no collusion of Clinton with the Russians, there’s massive evidence of Trump collusion with Russians. After all, we have the explicit statement by the Russian government that they wanted Trump to win.

Trump’s economic performance so far is fine, slightly worse than Obama’s. That’s just math.
no there is no collusion mueller has found none so far
 

fskimospy

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no there is no collusion mueller has found none so far

There was literally a meeting in Trump Tower with Trump’s son, his son in law, and his campaign manager for the purpose of getting help from the Russian government.

Are you people fucking crazy.
 
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brycejones

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Hillary is really the one in collusion with russians. nothing illegal but if u want a russian story, go after that one. trump has no collusion story.

and riding Obama coattails...really?? Obama and Bush before him had the worst economic performance in a very long time. 16 years of agonizing, painful economic activity. Way too early to say anything about Trump so we'll see what the next year or two looks like.

Hillary lost, you really need to get over it.
 
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dphantom

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There was literally a meeting in Trump Tower with Trump’s son, his son in law, and his campaign manager for the purpose of getting help from the Russian government.

Are you people fucking crazy.
nothing illegal to date about that. if and when it is shown that was illegal and was an attempt to undermine the 2016 election per mueller mandate, then I will change my position for the specific person(s) indicted.
 

dphantom

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Hillary lost, you really need to get over it.
get over what? I could care less about hillary at this point. we know what is happening and did happen to protect her candidacy. But as you say she lost and will be at best a minor footnote in history. drop this idiocy and move on to address the real problems we face.
 

fskimospy

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nothing illegal to date about that. if and when it is shown that was illegal and was an attempt to undermine the 2016 election per mueller mandate, then I will change my position for the specific person(s) indicted.

You have fucking lost it.

If Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton and John Podesta had been in a meeting trying to get dirt from Iran about Donald Trump you would have lost your mind.

It’s time to put partisanship aside. We have to remove this piece of shit.
 

ivwshane

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I love how fucking idiots dphantom scream, "no collusion! No collision!" because Mueller hasn't found any. Hey dumb ass, Mueller isn't done with the investigation and the stuff he has found he has already bright charges.
Unlike your benghazi bullshit and your Hillary and Russia collusion bullshit, why don't you wait at least until the investigation is over before making any claims. That's what the less shameful of your kind have been willing to do.

I would point you to all the investigative reporting journalists have done that actually show collusion with Russia (how have you not hear about trumps own lawyer claiming trump was aware of and approved of a meeting with Russians on behalf of the Russian government) but you look like the type to scream, "fake news" when presented with uncomfortable facts.

As to your poor economic numbers under Obama garbage, I just have one question; where was the economy when Obama took over?
Maybe pondering that will trigger a little bit of thinking for yourself and lead you to conclude that, ignoring the shitty economy Obama inherited, his economic record is pretty decent and well above the 2% mark. Nah, we all know how you idiots think, the great recession started under Obama and ended under trump.

No trend here! /s
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No trend here!/s
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Oops no trend! /s
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Capt Caveman

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i believe he has a birth certificate from hawaii, no? So why would you assume otherwise?

Your first comments about Hillary being in collusion with Russia and how the economy was poor under Obama tells us that you're a fake news believer b/c you're wrong on both cases unless you believe fake news.
 

Mai72

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Funny....just had a neighbor stop me on the street and tell me that it's been 20 years since the GDP had been this high. Said Obama never got above 1%. Of course, he's a big Cheeto supporter, only watches Fox news, is the president of some sort of Kentucky alien organization (as in outer space), believes jet trails are the US government spraying chemicals, has been abducted by aliens three times......etc. (Yes, I'm serious)..

The main reason why I don't talk politics with people.

It's an emotional issue for most. Logical and critical thinking gets thrown out the window. And, most people are just stupid fools who should never be allowed in a voting booth, :)
 

Mai72

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I love how fucking idiots dphantom scream, "no collusion! No collision!" because Mueller hasn't found any. Hey dumb ass, Mueller isn't done with the investigation and the stuff he has found he has already bright charges.
Unlike your benghazi bullshit and your Hillary and Russia collusion bullshit, why don't you wait at least until the investigation is over before making any claims. That's what the less shameful of your kind have been willing to do.

I would point you to all the investigative reporting journalists have done that actually show collusion with Russia (how have you not hear about trumps own lawyer claiming trump was aware of and approved of a meeting with Russians on behalf of the Russian government) but you look like the type to scream, "fake news" when presented with uncomfortable facts.

As to your poor economic numbers under Obama garbage, I just have one question; where was the economy when Obama took over?
Maybe pondering that will trigger a little bit of thinking for yourself and lead you to conclude that, ignoring the shitty economy Obama inherited, his economic record is pretty decent and well above the 2% mark. Nah, we all know how you idiots think, the great recession started under Obama and ended under trump.

No trend here! /s
dow-obama-trump.png


No trend here!/s
171120131302-chart-unemployment-2017-340xa.jpg


Oops no trend! /s
_99758087_4-wages-nc.png

Damn...

Great post.
 
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brycejones

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get over what? I could care less about hillary at this point. we know what is happening and did happen to protect her candidacy. But as you say she lost and will be at best a minor footnote in history. drop this idiocy and move on to address the real problems we face.

Yet you're the person who brought her up. Do you have a cankle fetish?
 

HomerJS

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You don’t understand what you’re linking and whoever made that collage is incredibly dishonest. They said SUSTAINED 3% growth was not going to happen, not that no one quarter would exceed 3%. They also happen to be right.

This last quarter saw absolutely massive fiscal stimulus combined with frontloaded purchases due to a possible trade war. On no planet does that indicate that sustained 3% growth is likely going forward.

Whoever made the image you linked is an idiot or a liar. This is the problem with conservative media, they are actively attempting to deceive people at all times.
Haha. Trump sheep 2x fail when trying to fail others. What morons!!
 

HomerJS

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get over what? I could care less about hillary at this point. we know what is happening and did happen to protect her candidacy. But as you say she lost and will be at best a minor footnote in history. drop this idiocy and move on to address the real problems we face.
Why don't you tell that to your boy after wiping the orange from your mouth
 

HomerJS

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Hillary is really the one in collusion with russians. nothing illegal but if u want a russian story, go after that one. trump has no collusion story.

and riding Obama coattails...really?? Obama and Bush before him had the worst economic performance in a very long time. 16 years of agonizing, painful economic activity. Way too early to say anything about Trump so we'll see what the next year or two looks like.
Maybe not proof yet but there is damn sure evidence of collusion
 

Starbuck1975

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You have fucking lost it.

If Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton and John Podesta had been in a meeting trying to get dirt from Iran about Donald Trump you would have lost your mind.

It’s time to put partisanship aside. We have to remove this piece of shit.
Yes we need to impeach Trump.

How is the Podesta Group doing by the way?
 

Bitek

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That 4.1% growth came from a bump in the soybean and corn exports as the
exporters rushed to beat the sanctions date.
The growth would have been 3.6% instead of 4.1.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-tariffs-soybeans-fueled-us-gdp-bump-225326578.html

"In the second quarter, the U.S. recorded an 80% annualized jump in food, feed and beverage exports, mainly from soybeans and corn. Without that surge, exports would have increased 5.3% instead of 9.3%, which means the GDP growth would have been around 3.6%, according to Paul Ashworth, the chief U.S. economist at Capital Economics."


cheeto is an effing moron. :rolleyes:

Remember to vote in November.

I talked about this in the Speedys EU trade thread.
What it also means we've borrowed growth forward.

A slowdown will likely come later, at which Trump will lie and blame it on someone else, and the trumpeters will repeat it witlessly