Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

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MikeMike

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Let's just ignore Felix. It will only serve to derail this thread by engaging him. We've all dealt with trolls before.

Anyways,

I believe this is going to explode by the end of this week with everything. The IC is leaking too much information to not be trying to put pressue on the republican congress to begin investigations.

I am intrigued in what Chaffetz's role is in all this. Is he just ignorant, is he SUPER party line defend your "brothers", or is he also part of the game? Perhaps he just sees that Trump would fully support his ideas and opinions on everything and that Trump's views align equally with his so he doesn't want to lose that base?
 
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greatnoob said:
Treason is punishable by death in the US (correct me if I'm wrong). Nobody cares you say? Not even the Trump government that one (of probably many) of their own has links to Russia?
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Treason? What an idiot. No wonder you call yourself a noob.

Noob.
 
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Commodus said:
So, do Trump, his campaign members and his sphere of influence have a good explanation for why they were in constant contact with senior Russian officials through the campaign and beyond?
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Whats wrong with Russia? We are their friends you silly person.
 
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MikeMike said:
Let's just ignore Felix. It will only serve to derail this thread by engaging him. We've all dealt with trolls before.

Anyways,

I believe this is going to explode by the end of this week with everything. The IC is leaking too much information to not be trying to put pressue on the republican congress to begin investigations.

I am intrigued in what Chaffetz's role is in all this. Is he just ignorant, is he SUPER party line defend your "brothers", or is he also part of the game? Perhaps he just sees that Trump would fully support his ideas and opinions on everything and that Trump's views align equally with his so he doesn't want to lose that base?
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Chaffetz is likely just a party loyalist. It was pretty obvious during the election that many Republicans were willing to overlook Trump's many problems in the name of regaining power, and Chaffetz will continue that trend so long as he thinks that supporting Trump helps his chances of staying in office. Of course, with tonight's revelations, he may have a hard time maintaining that line...
 
theeedude

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Dems should filibuster everything until an independent counsel is appointed to investigate this treason.
 
Jaskalas

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If one believes Russia's involvement in hacking the DNC.
And combines that with Trump campaign communication with Russia.
Topped by denials of communication....

That sounds like a case for impeachment.
 
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MikeMike

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Don't forget that Trump said he was unaware of the accusations that Flynn mislead Pence, even though Trump was informed WEEKS ago about it.
 
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compuwiz1

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Still waiting for someone to post what specific laws have been broken. It's alleged that people were talking and maybe they were, but for anything to come of this, it will have to be proven that there were exchanges that were unlawful. I'm not seeing that yet. Everything will come out and I welcome an investigation...lets get to the bottom of it.
 
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compuwiz1 said:
Still waiting for someone to post what specific laws have been broken.
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Dunno about specific laws but allegedly Trump would have lied about communication, and allegedly had his campaign in contact with the source of the DNC hacks.
 
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UberNeuman said:
WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time that they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
Well, how about that.
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Also it said:

" The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation. "

So how about that?

I have read about some communications and lies, but nothing that would remotely speak of Treason.

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

So far phone conversations alone don't cut the mustard. We need to know the contents of those phone calls and a lot more... I think the Treason Word is being tossed around way too much at this time, without any real evidence.
 
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senseamp said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act
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Not seeing that application in this case. Were the people working on Trump's campaign not private citizens at the time?

This is just an appetite for blood in the water, churned up by speculation, but not actual facts of wrong doing. Dems are still looking for ways to negate the loss. Give me something concrete like the who's, the whens and the specific acts that were violations of laws. Until then, all this "noise' being broadcast is just the continuation of trying to undermine the President.
 
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Haha, point and laugh at the trumptards pretending as if they care about daddy committing treason.
 
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This is why we need an independent counsel to investigate this thoroughly. It's possible there was no treason, but the Republicans blocking an independent investigation and instead targeting the leaks is creating an appearance that they are trying to hide something far bigger than Flynn talking to the Russians embassy staff. Trump is undermined by this, for sure, no one is disputing that. But it's on him and the GOP to clear up this cloud hanging over him with full transparency. All we know now is that Trump people (Flynn, Manafort, Tillerson, et al) have strong ties to the Russian leadership and foreign policy apparatus, that Russia interfered in the US presidential election on behalf of Trump, and that Trump is espousing very Russian friendly positions. I guess it could be a giant coincidence, but there is enough there to investigate.
 
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I'm not opposed to an investigation and if it turns up something, I'll accept the finding, but until then...
Russghazi!!!
 
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