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Trump calls for 'complete shutdown' on Muslims entering US

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Only the left can on one hand argue that we need to understand every issue a minority group might have, while at the same time stereotyping and demeaning millions of people.

LOL your strategy conveniently forgets the righties walk into a charleston church and shoot 9 people or you urinate on a guy sleeping because he's hispanic or you beat up someone because he says black lives matter.

Don't forget for one second the righters hands are drenched with blood of domestic terrorists. Just look at Oklahoma city next time you pretend to be so higher than thou.
 
You wont call muslim terrorists muslim terrorists, but you have no problems calling millions of americans 'crazies'.

This is part of the appeal of trump.

The left has turned into a bunch of fucking bigots, calling everyone that disagrees with them a racist, a moron, a idiot, a mouth breather, a redneck, etc etc. They do everything the object too, to millions of Americans, and then are surprised when those people respond.

He's only the most hated public figure in America in the minds of the nutter left.

I try not to even respond to posts by hanging a label on anyone these days.

It is just way easier to watch some peoples responses and let them hang themselves.
 
You wont call muslim terrorists muslim terrorists, but you have no problems calling millions of americans 'crazies'.

This is part of the appeal of trump.

The left has turned into a bunch of fucking bigots, calling everyone that disagrees with them a racist, a moron, a idiot, a mouth breather, a redneck, etc etc. They do everything the object too, to millions of Americans, and then are surprised when those people respond.

He's only the most hated public figure in America in the minds of the nutter left.

I'm not trying to bust balls, please explain the outrage some on the right feel about Obama not using the words Islamic terrorist or Muslim terrorist? Who care what word he uses, I never saw this as something important.
 
Jesus that fucking idiot even went so far as to include American citizens currently abroad in his proposed ban. His nonsense is getting dangerous.

I really have no words to describe how absolutely ridiculous this all is.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ump-calls-for-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-us
Trump, in a formal statement from his campaign, urged a “total and complete shutdown” of all federal processes allowing followers of Islam into the country until elected leaders can “figure out what is going on.” Asked by The Hill whether that would include American Muslims currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.’ ”
 
Trump is getting as stupid as he can.

So Muslim countries should ban Christians entering their states too?
 
Jesus that fucking idiot even went so far as to include American citizens currently abroad in his proposed ban. His nonsense is getting dangerous.

I really have no words to describe how absolutely ridiculous this all is.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ump-calls-for-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-us
I'm sure in a few days, we'll have people telling us how we "misunderstood" him and the "liberal media" is simply attacking him, just like when he told us that thousands cheered in Jersey City on 9/11, etc...
 
Jesus that fucking idiot even went so far as to include American citizens currently abroad in his proposed ban. His nonsense is getting dangerous.

I really have no words to describe how absolutely ridiculous this all is.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ump-calls-for-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-us
Trump does understand that this country has laws that limit the powers of government, right? This is getting weird. The teabaggers have turned into Jar-Jar Binks.
 
Trump is getting as stupid as he can.

So Muslim countries should ban Christians entering their states too?
They already do. I see no problem banning them from a majority christian country like the US, they and their religion of violence/sharia law don't belong here.
 
I'm not trying to bust balls, please explain the outrage some on the right feel about Obama not using the words Islamic terrorist or Muslim terrorist? Who care what word he uses, I never saw this as something important.

Easy answer. The Righties took the words from FDR and bastadardized to the following...

The only fear we have is....brown skinned people. Even FDR was two faced about it later issued executive order allowing him to round up Japanese Americans.
 
I'm sure in a few days, we'll have people telling us how we "misunderstood" him and the "liberal media" is simply attacking him, just like when he told us that thousands cheered in Jersey City on 9/11, etc...
Oh please, even the Washington Post reported celebrating on rooftops. The shit happened - granted not thousands, but a bunch. And some muslims in NYC are still celebrating 9/11:
https://youtu.be/W5BtQgTGOI4

^^Would love to hear your opinion on those scum of the Earth who hate our country but still live here and claim they are commanded by Allah to terrorize disbelievers.
 
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They already do. I see no problem banning them from a majority christian country like the US, they and their religion of violence/sharia law don't belong here.

You seem to have a problem with the whole separation of of church and state the US was founded on to begin with, but what else is new.

But you can just keep on stating odd things I guess.

Oh please, even the Washington Post reported celebrating on rooftops. The shit happened. And some muslims in NYC are still celebrating 9/11:
https://youtu.be/W5BtQgTGOI4

^^Would love to hear your opinion on those scum of the Earth who hate our country but still live here and claim they are commanded by Allah to terrorize disbelievers.

Ah, that didn't take long.

I have no problem whatsoever with taking someone who is a terrorist out in a heartbeat. Irregardless of religion.
 
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You seem to have a problem with the whole separation of of church and state the US was founded on to begin with, but what else is new.

But you can just keep on stating odd things I guess.



Ah, that didn't take long.

I have no problem whatsoever with taking someone who is a terrorist out in a heartbeat. Irregardless of religion.
So these "Americans" have no problem telling you they are commanded by Allah to terrorize you, that is why they were put on the earth, OBL is their hero, and they thought 9/11 was an amazing event. Are you classifying them as terrorists? If so, what is your solution to people like this who haven't broken the law but are inciting this hate until they find someone impressionable/dumb enough to commit their acts of terror? E.g. Somebody radicalized the SB shooters, and if you knew it was an American what would you do to them if you were king for a day?

Therein lies the problem.
 
^^Would love to hear your opinion on those scum of the Earth who hate our country but still live here and claim they are commanded by Allah to terrorize disbelievers.

There's a reason ISIS and AQ gets more recruits from the European countries vs USA. There are well over 20000+ muslim extremists born in Europe who true loyalty is to Islam and they openly aid, abet and travel to the middle east to fight for Islam.

Compared to them we have under 500 in the USA.

Why because in Europe they've been living in isolated ghetto like communities cut off from their country. They are resented everywhere and have no jobs and no interaction. So they turn to the mosques and radicalize and feel they're not part of the country they live in. They resent the state. They have zero loyalty towards their country. The mullahs tells them the cartoons insult their religion and families and look what happens?

Here in USA the number of extremists who are radicals are under a 500 and most likely under 400 counting false positives. Why? Because the muslim community feel they are Americans. have a shot at a good life, the American Dream. As a result they are honored to help protect and defend their country. Here's your proof:
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If you change the equation and deny them their American status and freedoms, you will change the numbers and more will be radicals. I don't know about you but I'd much rather have The Department of Homeland Security trying to account for the movements and if needed arrest 500 radicalized individuals than over 20000.

And I've lived and worked in NYC for most of my life, I've not come across this guy or guys like these. If I found someone preaching this kind of hate, I'd call the cops and the FBI to have them be shipped off to Guantanamo because that's not freedom of speech, that's treason.. the same treason 47 repulican senators committed trying to undermine the peace in the United States and wanting to create a war that affects America.
 
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Have a nice day.
That's what I thought. You cry about my inability to separate religion and state but cannot answer the tough questions like who to "take out (your words)" that are "terrorists". But what constitutes a terrorist - 1) one who has already committed violence or 2) those who openly incite others in the name of religion to commit violence? The problem with 2 is that it obv infringes on 1st amendment rights. However, where do we draw the line with the hateful rhetoric that discusses killing Americans? If we arrest them on that, aren't we just as bad as them for wanting to attack us for speaking ill of their prophet? Therefore, all we can do is monitor the fucktards and hope they don't learn how to use Tor.
 
I expect nothing less from Trump. Class act all around. Ban based on religion, sounds like something that will pass muster via SCOTUS. Trump is truly an idiot. I really don't think he has ever connected to an individual on a personal level. He thinks in groups and responds to groups for the acts of individuals.
 
That's what I thought. You cry about my inability to separate religion and state but cannot answer the tough questions like who to "take out (your words)" that are "terrorists". But what constitutes a terrorist - 1) one who has already committed violence or 2) those who openly incite others in the name of religion to commit violence? The problem with 2 is that it obv infringes on 1st amendment rights. However, where do we draw the line with the hateful rhetoric that discusses killing Americans? If we arrest them on that, aren't we just as bad as them for wanting to attack us for speaking ill of their prophet? Therefore, all we can do is monitor the fucktards and hope they don't learn how to use Tor.

Uhm, the part where they threaten others. Pretty cut and dry.
 
There's a reason ISIS and AQ gets more recruits from the European countries vs USA. There are well over 20000+ muslim extremists born in Europe who true loyalty is to Islam and they openly aid, abet and travel to the middle east to fight for Islam.

Compared to them we have under 500 in the USA.

Why because in Europe they've been living in isolated ghetto like communities cut off from their country. They are resented everywhere and have no jobs and no interaction. So they turn to the mosques and radicalize and feel they're not part of the country they live in. They resent the state. They have zero loyalty towards their country. The mullahs tells them the cartoons insult their religion and families and look what happens?

Here in USA the number of extremists who are radicals are under a 500 and most likely under 400 counting false positives. Why? Because the muslim community feel they are Americans. have a shot at a good life, the American Dream. As a result they are honored to help protect and defend their country. Here's your proof:
kareem.jpg


If you change the equation and deny them their American status and freedoms, you will change the numbers and more will be radicals.

And I've lived and worked in NYC for most of my life, I've not come across this guy or guys like these. If I found someone preaching this kind of hate, I'd call the cops and the FBI to be shipped off to Guantanamo because that's not freedom of speech, that's treason.. the same treason 47 repulican senators committed trying to undermine the peace in the United States and wanting to create a war that affects America.
Your stats are wrong. According to Pew Research 2011 study, 19% of muslims were either favorable to Al Queda or "didn't know". That's almost 500,000 muslims. Your "500" imaginary number is missing a few zeros.

Yes, you'd call the cops on these guys? And just what are the cops going to do? They aren't breaking any laws and are free to spread that hate outside of mosques in NYC. Just like the radical muslims celebrating on rooftops in NJ were free to go when they could pin nothing on them except their hateful nature. I can tell you that shit is going to change, including possible 1st amendment rights erosion if these attacks continue on our soil for the next 10 years. Attrition is a horrible but effective way to take them seriously.
 
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