Trump calls for 'complete shutdown' on Muslims entering US

[Indus]

Source: well umm everywhere but I got it from AP

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump called Monday for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States," an idea that prompted one of his rivals to call him "unhinged."

The proposed ban would apply to immigrants and visitors alike, a sweeping prohibition affecting all adherents of Islam who want to come to the U.S. The idea also raised immediate questions about whether it could pass muster under constitutional protections of the free exercise of religion.

Trump's campaign said in a statement such a ban should stand "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

The statement added that Trump's proposal comes in response to a level of hatred among "large segments of the Muslim population" toward Americans.


"Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life," Trump said in the statement.

He added on Twitter: "Just put out a very important policy statement on the extraordinary influx of hatred & danger coming into our country. We must be vigilant!"

Several of Trump's Republican rivals were quick to reject the latest provocation from a candidate who has delivered no shortage of them.

"Donald Trump is unhinged," Jeb Bush said via Twitter. "His 'policy' proposals are not serious."

Carly Fiorina said, "Trump's overreaction is as dangerous as President Obama's under-reaction."

John Kasich slammed Trump's "outrageous divisiveness," while a more measured Ted Cruz, who has always been cautious about upsetting Trump's supporters, said, "Well, that is not my policy."

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said Trump's proposed ban would apply to "everybody," including Muslims seeking immigration visas as well as tourists seeking to enter the country.

He did not respond to questions about whether it would also include Muslims who are U.S. citizens and travel outside of the country, or how a determination of someone's religion might be made by customs and border officials.

In response to a request for additional detail, Trump said via a campaign spokeswoman: "Because I am so politically correct, I would never be the one to say. You figure it out!"

Trump's proposal comes a day after President Barack Obama spoke to the nation from the Oval Office about the shootings in San Bernardino, California, which Obama said was "an act of terrorism designed to kill innocent people."

The FBI said Monday the Muslim couple who carried out the massacre had been radicalized and had taken target practice at area gun ranges, in one case within days of the attack last week that killed 14 people.

Trump's campaign has been marked by a pattern of inflammatory statements, dating back to his harsh rhetoric about Mexican immigrants.

He has taken a particularly hard line against Muslims in the days since the Paris attacks, advocating enhanced surveillance of mosques due to fears over radicalization.

Unfortunately he's a total liar. Today he posted on his twitter.. he has never seen any muslim sports heroes.. yet his website has photos of him with Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Shaquille O'Neil.

Interesting thing from a movie called the American President: "He is interested in two things and two things only: making people afraid of it and telling who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections."

Even my father is now wanting to vote for him. I was stunned. I tried reasoning and asked my dad today who was to blame for the 2008 financial crisis.. he didn't remember and said Obama. Then I asked my dad who took care of him during his CABG surgery (I had taken a month off work to be the primary caretaker) and he didn't remember.. he said he did it himself. I don't want to go so far as to call my dad a senile old man, but the fear is truly working..

Trump will probably become president. Conservatives rejoice!

 

[JSt0rm]

but if they do get in we should let them buy assault rifles.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Its so epically strange. How do we know someone is a Muslim? Does this apply to Canadian Muslim's? What if someone says no does that mean they're safe? What if someone finds Mohammed while in the US?

 

[JSt0rm]

Its so epically strange. How do we know someone is a Muslim? Does this apply to Canadian Muslim's? What if someone says no does that mean they're safe? What if someone finds Mohammed while in the US?

Brown skin says it all.

 

[WelshBloke]

Its so epically strange. How do we know someone is a Muslim? Does this apply to Canadian Muslim's? What if someone says no does that mean they're safe? What if someone finds Mohammed while in the US?

Compulsory bacon sandwiches at the border?

 

[Hugo Drax]

Make it like a TB Tine test.

Bacon fat and q-tips. A muslim would be repelled at being dabbed with Satanic Bacon fat.

So the ones who refuse just get sent back.

 

[Bowfinger]

Its so epically strange. How do we know someone is a Muslim? Does this apply to Canadian Muslim's? What if someone says no does that mean they're safe? What if someone finds Mohammed while in the US?

It's typical Trump: stupid, unworkable, and deliberately inflammatory. The media are slobbering all over it, of course, because train wrecks grab eyeballs. Trump's opponents and right-thinking spokesmen will howl in outrage, thus giving Trump even more free publicity. And, the dimwitted Trump fan boys will high-five each other for supporting the buffoon who's going to save 'murica. It's the perfect marriage of politics and reality TV.

 

[NTMBK]

I'm not American so it's hard to judge, but... You guys aren't seriously going to vote for this guy? Right?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Its so epically strange. How do we know someone is a Muslim? Does this apply to Canadian Muslim's? What if someone says no does that mean they're safe? What if someone finds Mohammed while in the US?

America is turning into another version of the places some of them fled from
Hopefully for a long time to come, Canada will still represent freedom and a better way of life

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm not American so it's hard to judge, but... You guys aren't seriously going to vote for this guy? Right?

Its weird looking at it from the outside isn't it?


I thought that the base that hes trying to appeal to are the libertarian freedumb crowd but hes a true authoritarian that doesn't appear to believe in the freedom of religion.

 

[feralkid]

I'm not American so it's hard to judge, but... You guys aren't seriously going to vote for this guy? Right?

No siree, Bob.

It's a complete novelty act, but about 8% of American voters don't understand this.

Oh, and of that 8%, the vast majority seems to like to tell us all about it on this forum.

 

[fskimospy]

Its weird looking at it from the outside isn't it?


I thought that the base that hes trying to appeal to are the libertarian freedumb crowd but hes a true authoritarian that doesn't appear to believe in the freedom of religion.

To be clear, this is the republican primary, not the real election. No, people are not actually going to vote for him, he's just appealing to the crazies right now. Overall he is the most widely hated public figure in America that I can think of right now.

 

[Remobz]

Its weird looking at it from the outside isn't it?


I thought that the base that hes trying to appeal to are the libertarian freedumb crowd but hes a true authoritarian that doesn't appear to believe in the freedom of religion.

You can thank ISIS among other Muslims for helping to push a certain segment of American society towards such attitudes.

The more Muslims terrorize the world and USA in particular then TRUMP gets a free pass on many things.

Oh by the way, I heard your British Muslim brother was trying to cut off the head of his victim with a knife. I am pretty sure such actions will NEVER happen again.

 

[OrByte]

Is it too late to invoke Godwin's Law?

 

[feralkid]

You can thank ISIS among other Muslims for helping to push a certain segment of American society towards such attitudes.

The more Muslims terrorize the world and USA in particular then TRUMP gets a free pass on many things.

Oh by the way, I heard your British Muslim brother was trying to cut off the head of his victim with a knife. I am pretty sure such actions will NEVER happen again.

He Ain't No Muslim, Bruv

 

[WelshBloke]

To be clear, this is the republican primary, not the real election. No, people are not actually going to vote for him, he's just appealing to the crazies right now. Overall he is the most widely hated public figure in America that I can think of right now.

Yeah probably. He seems fairly popular with a sizable proportion of the republican base though.

You can thank ISIS among other Muslims for helping to push a certain segment of American society towards such attitudes.

The more Muslims terrorize the world and USA in particular then TRUMP gets a free pass on many things.

Oh by the way, I heard your British Muslim brother was trying to cut off the head of his victim with a knife. I am pretty sure such actions will NEVER happen again.

I'm detecting mixed messages coming from you there.

He Ain't No Muslim, Bruv

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Compulsory bacon sandwiches at the border?

But the Jews

 

[MongGrel]

Its weird looking at it from the outside isn't it?

It's weird looking at it from the inside to many in the US.

()

Even if he pulls off a GOP nod it's not like he'd just be elected of course.

 

[Orignal Earl]

You can thank ISIS among other Muslims for helping to push a certain segment of American society towards such attitudes.

The more Muslims terrorize the world and USA in particular then TRUMP gets a free pass on many things.

Oh by the way, I heard your British Muslim brother was trying to cut off the head of his victim with a knife. I am pretty sure such actions will NEVER happen again.

That certain segment of American society can be pushed in lot's of directions.
When you let them get started on that slope, it won't be long until they are coming after someone you care about

 

[rpanic]

But the Jews

Two for one test.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm not American so it's hard to judge, but... You guys aren't seriously going to vote for this guy? Right?

Its the Republican primary. The system is set up so a few conservative states vote early, religious conservatives reliably turn out to vote in the primary. The traditional thing to do for Republicans is go hard right to appease the early conservative voters, get the nomination then move to the center to get enough votes to be elected. Trump can't be serious about this it would be impossible to work.

 

[mrjminer]

OP has no source. Nothing is able to be validated, and nothing can be contextualized.

Congratulations on showing your biased idiocy, though, rest of the people in the thread.

 

[rpanic]

I think its a big joke that keeps backfiring on him, he is trying to get out but gets pulled in more.

 

[WelshBloke]

Its the Republican primary. The system is set up so a few conservative states vote early, religious conservatives reliably turn out to vote in the primary. The traditional thing to do for Republicans is go hard right to appease the early conservative voters, get the nomination then move to the center to get enough votes to be elected. Trump can't be serious about this it would be impossible to work.

Its going to be pretty tough for him to move to the center from here isnt it?

Whats he going to say "Yeah all that stuff earlier... Yeah... Just joking about that. Unless you liked it then you know... *wink*"?

 

[WelshBloke]

I think its a big joke that keeps backfiring on him, he is trying to get out but gets pulled in more.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it started.

The guys got a massive ego and I can see it being difficult for him to extricate himself now.