Trump and Kim have now shaken hands...breaking

[alien42]

From what I read, they don't "know" what they are doing. Only that there is increased activity.

I'm sure they're just building a hospital or school. I know you're a troll but you can't actually be this stupid.

 

[Jhhnn]

For starters, we didn't give them $400 mil on a plane.

If it wins Trump the Nobel, I'll be lmao. That may actually be worth 400 mil to see the media squirm and try to spin how shitty the Nobel was anyway (while forgetting about bootlicking obama when he got one).

It was Iran's money to begin with, frozen in US bank accounts since their revolution.

You obviously dodged the question, as well.

The Iran deal is a multiparty agreement with verification by the IAEA. There have been no indications that Iran hasn't followed it. The N Korea deal is like the pitch for Arizona oceanfront.

 

[hal2kilo]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-since-the-trump-kim-summit.html?via=taps_top

Kim Plays the Long Game
Don’t look now, but it’s just possible that North Korea isn’t actually denuclearizing.

This can't be happening. We're supposed to be comfortably sleeping now due the perfect best efforts of the great Orange One.

 

[IronWing]

Long game? It hasn't even been three weeks. I've played Risk games that have lasted longer.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Long game? It hasn't even been three weeks. I've played Risk games that have lasted longer.

mmmmmmmmmmmm Risk mmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[pcgeek11]

I'm sure they're just building a hospital or school. I know you're a troll but you can't actually be this stupid.

Who said that they were, not I.

Everything else is just guess work. And yes they very well could be making improvements to the site. I'm not saying that they aren't, only that we have no facts.

 

[UNCjigga]

Who said that they were, not I.

Everything else is just guess work. And yes they very well could be making improvements to the site. I'm not saying that they aren't, only that we have no facts.

North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say U.S. officials

"Work is ongoing to deceive us on the number of facilities, the number of weapons, the number of missiles," said one U.S. official.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926

So...does that change anything PCGeek??

 

[IronWing]

No one predicted this. Congress was on-board. They had the same intelligence. The country was unified behind Trump's strategy. This is Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst. The dog ate my homework.

 

[pcgeek11]

North Korea has increased nuclear production at secret sites, say U.S. officials

"Work is ongoing to deceive us on the number of facilities, the number of weapons, the number of missiles," said one U.S. official.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926

So...does that change anything PCGeek??

I wouldn't be shocked or surprised if they did.

I'm sure more information has come to light since I replied to this post days ago.

Are you surprised?

 

[Jhhnn]

The N Korean nuclear threat has been utterly overblown, particularly in relationship to this country. They sure as Hell haven't demonstrated any ability to put a payload on target 8000km downrange. They can't use them on anybody other than in self defense, anyway. They'd be obliterated in 30 minutes.

The chances of them ever denuclearizing are near zero. The Bush admin basically dared them to do it 15 years ago & they rose to the challenge. It makes them invasion proof.

 

[alien42]

Who said that they were, not I.

Everything else is just guess work. And yes they very well could be making improvements to the site. I'm not saying that they aren't, only that we have no facts.

we have plenty of facts and NK experts knowledge - https://www.38north.org/2018/06/yongbyon062618/

and over a dozen US intel officials have confirmed what NK is doing - https://youtu.be/dJD11Yul7oE

trump got played and kim is the only winner so far. amazingly, the White House hasn't even acknowledged the current NK news, so they are sticking with trump's lies.

 

[zinfamous]

Who said that they were, not I.

Everything else is just guess work. And yes they very well could be making improvements to the site. I'm not saying that they aren't, only that we have no facts.

The only facts you have in your life are the rancid turds that you continually deposit in your diapers.

You should be more concerned about those, rather than posting on the intertubes.

 

[cytg111]

Who knew diplomacy was this hard?
(canada, france, germany, china knows maybe?)
You can tell the big Orange was doubling down on a win on this one too. Whats gonna happen? As he faces a loss here he is going to double-double down on stupid on the NATO summit and on trade "relations".
So guess you guys are leaving NATO in a moment.. cya back in a few years.

 

[UberNeuman]

News Flash: Trump Supporters got played once again like the gullible dups they are.

and now I lol.

lol.

 

[pcgeek11]

The only facts you have in your life are the rancid turds that you continually deposit in your diapers.

You should be more concerned about those, rather than posting on the intertubes.

Well speaking of rancid turds. How you doin?

 

[UglyCasanova]

The N Korean nuclear threat has been utterly overblown, particularly in relationship to this country. They sure as Hell haven't demonstrated any ability to put a payload on target 8000km downrange. They can't use them on anybody other than in self defense, anyway. They'd be obliterated in 30 minutes.

The chances of them ever denuclearizing are near zero. The Bush admin basically dared them to do it 15 years ago & they rose to the challenge. It makes them invasion proof.

I agree with this. SK needs to worry about it, and China and Japan, but the risk to the US is very minimal. And I think the chance of them using it is near zero as well. Everything is about the Kim regimes survival. If that isn’t threatened they aren’t going to use nukes. Selling off the how-to's though is a different story and something to worry about, but they still have that knowledge even if they denuclearized.

 

[pcgeek11]

Every President since 1953 has been played by North Korea. Nothing new here at all. The game however isn't over yet for Trump, the USA or North Korea... Time will tell.

 

[fskimospy]

Every President since 1953 has been played by North Korea. Nothing new here at all. The game however isn't over yet for Trump, the USA or North Korea... Time will tell.

No previous president has been played this badly or this easily though. Trump purposefully ratcheted up tensions then called a summit where he gave Kim a bunch of concessions and alienated our allies in exchange for nothing.

He could have just done nothing and that would have been way better. He’s seriously the world’s worst negotiator.

 

[Jhhnn]

Every President since 1953 has been played by North Korea. Nothing new here at all. The game however isn't over yet for Trump, the USA or North Korea... Time will tell.

If we got played, what did they win?

 

[Jhhnn]

No previous president has been played this badly or this easily though. Trump purposefully ratcheted up tensions then called a summit where he gave Kim a bunch of concessions and alienated our allies in exchange for nothing.

He could have just done nothing and that would have been way better. He’s seriously the world’s worst negotiator.

It's just a sideshow to the havoc Trump is wreaking in this country & the ROTW.

Something good may yet come of it but there are much bigger things afoot elsewhere, things Trump wants us to look away from.

 

[pcgeek11]

No previous president has been played this badly or this easily though. Trump purposefully ratcheted up tensions then called a summit where he gave Kim a bunch of concessions and alienated our allies in exchange for nothing.

He could have just done nothing and that would have been way better. He’s seriously the world’s worst negotiator.

Please list these concessions that are so grave...

 

[fskimospy]

Please list these concessions that are so grave...

He agreed to North Korea’s demands for this summit to begin with. Second, he agreed to call off joint defense exercises with South Korea, which are a cornerstone of our mutual defense agreement. He did all this without consulting our allies, driving the sort of wedge between South Korea and the US that North Korea could only have dreamed of before. And he did all of this in exchange for nothing.

Even you should be able to admit this was a particularly bad job at negotiating.

 

[alien42]

He agreed to North Korea’s demands for this summit to begin with. Second, he agreed to call off joint defense exercises with South Korea, which are a cornerstone of our mutual defense agreement. He did all this without consulting our allies, driving the sort of wedge between South Korea and the US that North Korea could only have dreamed of before. And he did all of this in exchange for nothing.

Even you should be able to admit this was a particularly bad job at negotiating.

He also escalated Kim's global status by meeting with him face to face and then repeatedly complimenting him.

 

[pcgeek11]

He agreed to North Korea’s demands for this summit to begin with. Second, he agreed to call off joint defense exercises with South Korea, which are a cornerstone of our mutual defense agreement. He did all this without consulting our allies, driving the sort of wedge between South Korea and the US that North Korea could only have dreamed of before. And he did all of this in exchange for nothing.

Even you should be able to admit this was a particularly bad job at negotiating.

Omg. That is a "bunch" of something...

You have called a defeat before the negotiations are even started.
Throw up a white flag and go home.

 

[fskimospy]

Omg. That is a "bunch" of something...

You have called a defeat before the negotiations are even started.
Throw up a white flag and go home.

Not sure why you’re trying to defend this blunder outside of partisanship.

Trump made a dumb decision and got played. Why can’t you just admit it?