Trump advisor Alex Jones Threatens To Shoot Robert Mueller

[Sheik Yerbouti]

There's nothing wrong with Jones, he's an entertainer.

jesus christ, your definition of 'entertainment' is very telling, and on so many levels

 

[CZroe]

How is he not partially to blame for Trump? Any GOP nutter over the last 3 or 4 decades that has been actively gaslighting the idiot base that supports them, from Goldwater to Reagan to Limbaugh to Beck to Hannity, are all fucking responsible for Trump.

???

“The base that supports” Trump and got him elected weren’t the ones following Beck and Hannity in the years leading up to it. It was the switching Democrats who swung states like PA and MI plus Conservatives/Republicans rebelling against their own establishment... both elected (better Republican candidates) and media (Hannity, Beck).

 

[shortylickens]

There's nothing wrong with Jones, he's an entertainer.

Thats what people like you call him whenever he goes crazy and says some ridiculous shit.
Unlike Stephen Colbert, who claims to be AND WORKS AS an entertainer and is called a threat to the American way of life, by people like you.

 

[Jhhnn]

???

“The base that supports” Trump and got him elected weren’t the ones following Beck and Hannity in the years leading up to it. It was the switching Democrats who swung states like PA and MI plus Conservatives/Republicans rebelling against their own establishment... both elected (better Republican candidates) and media (Hannity, Beck).

Trump snookered 'em good, didn't he?

I'm sure the people at the top of the GOP are deeply resentful of Trump. He stole their base. That's reflected in the Primary. The only rival even close was Cruz, and he plays the crazy nearly as well as Trump. They don't like him, either.

So the question is, how did the base become crazy enough to see Trump as a Savior? It wasn't from listening to Democrats.

 

[CZroe]

Trump snookered 'em good, didn't he?

I'm sure the people at the top of the GOP are deeply resentful of Trump. He stole their base. That's reflected in the Primary. The only rival even close was Cruz, and he plays the crazy nearly as well as Trump. They don't like him, either.

So the question is, how did the base become crazy enough to see Trump as a Savior? It wasn't from listening to Democrats.

Just saying that if TV personalities had anything to do with it, it‘s more likely to be “reality” TV like The Apprentice. I bet there is a huge viewership overlap with Jersey Shore and Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

These geniuses are a huge percentage of the population on both sides and that same influence was there in the primaries. If it weren’t for that shift then Trump wouldn’t have even been nominated.

He “stole the base” without Hannity and Beck by attracting disaffected Democrats, single-issue Independents, “they took our jobs” middle-class manufacturing and miner workers, and brain-dead reality TV fans. Very few of those new people were influenced by Hannity and Beck in the years running up to Trump’s campaign.

To answer your question: they got that way by listening to Trump go on about migrants, a wall, his own greatness, and how “great” everything was going to be while hearing Dems call them “deplorables,” rig their own primary (poor Bernie), and threaten to put coal industry out of business (WV was nearly 70% Trump). The shift obviously happened since 2012. Hannity softened on immigration after the 2012 election and Beck wasn’t even a factor since then (off the air). Hannity didn’t really embrace Trump until after he won the nomination and then he was on the Trump train almost overnight.

The new people tipping the scales were not embracing political media, conservative or liberal. Sounds noble until we realize that many were embracing so-called “reality” shows to even care about Trump in the first place. To them, the primaries were American Idol without SMS voting and they were as entertained by Trump as they were by Paris Hilton. It’s insipid.

 

[Jaskalas]

I thought Glenn Beck saw the light and apologized for all the damage he did. Or was that a troll? Or did he relapse immediately after? I haven't heard anything about him since then.

Opposition to Trump in the GOP destroyed Glenn Beck as a GOP figure. Republicans are that "all in" for Trump.

 

[Ichinisan]

Opposition to Trump in the GOP destroyed Glenn Beck as a GOP figure. Republicans are that "all in" for Trump.

???

Beck didn't support Trump. He left Fox News and that's why he became less relevant.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Trump snookered 'em good, didn't he?

I'm sure the people at the top of the GOP are deeply resentful of Trump. He stole their base. That's reflected in the Primary. The only rival even close was Cruz, and he plays the crazy nearly as well as Trump. They don't like him, either.

So the question is, how did the base become crazy enough to see Trump as a Savior? It wasn't from listening to Democrats.

It’s really quite simple. The Russians understood the populist sentiments of the working class and deep skepticism towards Washington, and weaponized social media against us by using analytics to deploy a targeted and highly effective propaganda campaign.

Trump said all the right things to attract the voters he needed to win. He didn’t come up with that script himself. MAGA. Drain the swamp. America first. For the people left behind by rapid globalization, this was music to their ears.

 

[Jaskalas]

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Beck didn't support Trump. He left Fox News and that's why he became less relevant.

Let me rephrase that. Glenn Beck's opposition to Trump destroyed him. The GOP went full Trump.

 

[cytg111]

There's nothing wrong with Jones, he's an entertainer.

So was Trump... Imagine Jones as pres. Before you dismiss it recall the last 4 years from start to now. Crazy is the new normal.

 

[zinfamous]

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“The base that supports” Trump and got him elected weren’t the ones following Beck and Hannity in the years leading up to it. It was the switching Democrats who swung states like PA and MI plus Conservatives/Republicans rebelling against their own establishment... both elected (better Republican candidates) and media (Hannity, Beck).

you miss the obvious point that there is actually, NOW, an entire base of people that would support a lunatic fascist like Trump.

Seriously, fucking think about it and try to figure out why that immovable base really is more important than the tiny percentage of people (well under 0.1% of the population) who managed to influence the vote just enough, in a tiny tiny piece of the country, to win the EC.

If the base weren't intentionally created to be a pack of extreme, slobbering, nutters, then we wouldn't be thinking about those extremely narrow few that flip back and forth from one election to the next.

 

[Jhhnn]

It’s really quite simple. The Russians understood the populist sentiments of the working class and deep skepticism towards Washington, and weaponized social media against us by using analytics to deploy a targeted and highly effective propaganda campaign.

Trump said all the right things to attract the voters he needed to win. He didn’t come up with that script himself. MAGA. Drain the swamp. America first. For the people left behind by rapid globalization, this was music to their ears.

It's not just the Russians. It's been the basis for the alt-right all along. The Russians merely amplified what was already there, blending the fruits of hacking into the stream.

Way back when, witches were burned as scapegoats when the population was hurting. Crop failure, disease, lawlessness & whatever were blamed on witchcraft. The same principle was applied to Hillary in 2016.

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's not just the Russians. It's been the basis for the alt-right all along. The Russians merely amplified what was already there, blending the fruits of hacking into the stream.

The alt-right is a fairly recent movement enabled by Trump, but it will burn out and crawl back into the shadows from which it came.

The Russians attacked because they had an easy target to exploit.

Way back when, witches were burned as scapegoats when the population was hurting. Crop failure, disease, lawlessness & whatever were blamed on witchcraft. The same principle was applied to Hillary in 2016.

Poor Hillary

 

[blackangst1]

Alex Jones is crazy as fuck, and is NOT a Trump advisor. Well, unless you ask Alex.

 

[woolfe9998]

LOL@ Alex Jones. The man is a clown. He's also the subject of one of Colbert's funniest monologues and impressions ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebhNRF5r4Ts

 

[Jhhnn]

Just saying that if TV personalities had anything to do with it, it‘s more likely to be “reality” TV like The Apprentice. I bet there is a huge viewership overlap with Jersey Shore and Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

These geniuses are a huge percentage of the population on both sides and that same influence was there in the primaries. If it weren’t for that shift then Trump wouldn’t have even been nominated.

He “stole the base” without Hannity and Beck by attracting disaffected Democrats, single-issue Independents, “they took our jobs” middle-class manufacturing and miner workers, and brain-dead reality TV fans. Very few of those new people were influenced by Hannity and Beck in the years running up to Trump’s campaign.

To answer your question: they got that way by listening to Trump go on about migrants, a wall, his own greatness, and how “great” everything was going to be while hearing Dems call them “deplorables,” rig their own primary (poor Bernie), and threaten to put coal industry out of business (WV was nearly 70% Trump). The shift obviously happened since 2012. Hannity softened on immigration after the 2012 election and Beck wasn’t even a factor since then (off the air). Hannity didn’t really embrace Trump until after he won the nomination and then he was on the Trump train almost overnight.

The new people tipping the scales were not embracing political media, conservative or liberal. Sounds noble until we realize that many were embracing so-called “reality” shows to even care about Trump in the first place. To them, the primaries were American Idol without SMS voting and they were as entertained by Trump as they were by Paris Hilton. It’s insipid.

Both sides? Really?

You're dodging the truth about the GOP primary voting base. That's who gave him the nomination by an overwhelming margin. They've absorbed an incredible amount of right wing brain rot for decades. Not just Hannity & Beck but a constellation of right wing talking heads, authors, preachers, radio personalities & so called news sources. It goes back to Limbaugh & the repeal of the fairness doctrine in 1987.

They've been profoundly propagandized & that's something that grades away into the rest of the population, as well. It's not about what they think but rather what they believe & their whole attitude.

None of Trump's issues were new at all. He & his Russian friends just put it to the electorate in a brash & brilliant way.
Right wing talking heads have been going on about all that stuff for a very long time while their ultra wealthy sponsors have been looting the middle class.

 

[Jhhnn]

The alt-right is a fairly recent movement enabled by Trump, but it will burn out and crawl back into the shadows from which it came.

The Russians attacked because they had an easy target to exploit.

Poor Hillary

When Trump & Russian propagandists looked out over the GOP voting base what they saw was a sea of already well propagandized chumps. They didn't say anything the base wasn't already clamoring for.

 

[CZroe]

Both sides? Really?

You're dodging the truth about the GOP primary voting base. That's who gave him the nomination by an overwhelming margin. They've absorbed an incredible amount of right wing brain rot for decades. Not just Hannity & Beck but a constellation of right wing talking heads, authors, preachers, radio personalities & so called news sources. It goes back to Limbaugh & the repeal of the fairness doctrine in 1987...

ORLY? Then tell me this: Why did Romney lose?

Trump didn’t win thanks to a loyal base of voters, and I can tell you that first hand. I didn’t vote for him. My brother didn’t vote for him. Heck, even the Bush’s didn’t vote for him. Megan Kelley, Erick Erickson, Ben Shapiro, Michelle Fields, and many more publicly feuded with him.

The ranks were lousy with Never Trump-ers, but he brought in enough new blood to make up for it... exactly like I said. That was the only point I was trying to make. The win has little to do with the base Beck and Hannity supposedly curated for him because that was never enough on its own even before a significant percentage turned on him.

Sorry. Just being a realist.

 

[Jhhnn]

ORLY? Then tell me this: Why did Romney lose?

Trump didn’t win thanks to a loyal base of voters, and I can tell you that first hand. I didn’t vote for him. My brother didn’t vote for him. Heck, even the Bush’s didn’t vote for him. Megan Kelley, Erick Erickson, Ben Shapiro, Michelle Fields, and many more publicly feuded with him.

The ranks were lousy with Never Trump-ers, but he brought in enough new blood to make up for it... exactly like I said. That was the only point I was trying to make. The win has little to do with the base Beck and Hannity supposedly curated for him because that was never enough on its own even before a significant percentage turned on him.

Sorry. Just being a realist.

Just being an apologist for the GOP faithful. Trump won the primary by an overwhelming margin. Trump is polling at 88% or so among Republicans. Trump did pull enough disaffected others to win the electoral college but that was nowhere near enough to even get him on the ballot.

 

[nickqt]

ORLY? Then tell me this: Why did Romney lose?

Trump didn’t win thanks to a loyal base of voters, and I can tell you that first hand. I didn’t vote for him. My brother didn’t vote for him. Heck, even the Bush’s didn’t vote for him. Megan Kelley, Erick Erickson, Ben Shapiro, Michelle Fields, and many more publicly feuded with him.

The ranks were lousy with Never Trump-ers, but he brought in enough new blood to make up for it... exactly like I said. That was the only point I was trying to make. The win has little to do with the base Beck and Hannity supposedly curated for him because that was never enough on its own even before a significant percentage turned on him.

Sorry. Just being a realist.

Strongman Trump won 41 states in the Republican primaries.

Strongman Trump got the most votes in the Republican primaries.

Strongman Trump received 63 million votes running as a Republican, the most votes a Republican running for President has ever received.

That doesn't happen without the base...who are still his strongest supporters.

 

[CZroe]

Just being an apologist for the GOP faithful. Trump won the primary by an overwhelming margin. Trump is polling at 88% or so among Republicans. Trump did pull enough disaffected others to win the electoral college but that was nowhere near enough to even get him on the ballot.

That doesn’t even make sense. If they were “GOP faithful” then they would support Trump.

You say 88% like it’s some shockingly high number when typically a party supports their figurehead that much or more. Did Obama ever poll under 88% among Democrats? Did you adjust Trump’s supporters to exclude those who you acknowledge switched to join the Trump train? 88% among Republicans really isn’t contradictory to what I’ve been saying at all. It’s low and would be lower if it weren’t for the disaffected supporters he drew in. Since we were discussing the part of the Republican base that was influenced by Hannity and Beck years earlier, that context/distinction is important.

 

[CZroe]

you miss the obvious point that there is actually, NOW, an entire base of people that would support a lunatic fascist like Trump.

Seriously, fucking think about it and try to figure out why that immovable base really is more important than the tiny percentage of people (well under 0.1% of the population) who managed to influence the vote just enough, in a tiny tiny piece of the country, to win the EC.

If the base weren't intentionally created to be a pack of extreme, slobbering, nutters, then we wouldn't be thinking about those extremely narrow few that flip back and forth from one election to the next.

I didn’t miss anything. We were specifically talking about the culpability of the likes of Glenn Beck and Hannity for getting Trump elected.

 

[CZroe]

Let me rephrase that. Glenn Beck's opposition to Trump destroyed him. The GOP went full Trump.

If you think that, fine, but it’s another thing entirely to have it both ways and say that Beck somehow contributed to getting Trump elected. Also, Beck was irrelevant ever since his Fox News program was canceled years before the election. Your theory of cause and effect is a little off.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That doesn’t even make sense. If they were “GOP faithful” then they would support Trump.

You say 88% like it’s some damningly high number when typically a party supports their figurehead that much or more. Did Obama ever poll under 88% among Democrats? Did you adjust Trump’s supporters to exclude those who you acknowledge switched to join the Trump train? 88% among Republicans really isn’t contradictory to what I’ve been saying at all. It’s low and would be lower if it weren’t for the disaffected supporters he drew in. Since we were discussing the part of the Republican base that was influenced by Hannity and Beck years earlier, that context/distinction is important.

Really?

https://qz.com/1295674/donald-trump-now-owns-the-republican-party/


Trump Now Trails Only Reagan Among Recent Presidents in GOP Esteem

https://nymag.com/daily/intelligenc...agan-among-recent-presidents-in-gop-love.html

 

[Jhhnn]

That doesn’t even make sense. If they were “GOP faithful” then they would support Trump.

You say 88% like it’s some shockingly high number when typically a party supports their figurehead that much or more. Did Obama ever poll under 88% among Democrats? Did you adjust Trump’s supporters to exclude those who you acknowledge switched to join the Trump train? 88% among Republicans really isn’t contradictory to what I’ve been saying at all. It’s low and would be lower if it weren’t for the disaffected supporters he drew in. Since we were discussing the part of the Republican base that was influenced by Hannity and Beck years earlier, that context/distinction is important.

Trump's support among rank & file GOP members is overwhelming. They didn't get that crazy all of a sudden, either. They were led to it by Gingrich, Limbaugh, D'Souza, Corsi, Ingraham, Coulter, Pirro, North, Napolitano, Savage, Hannity, LaPierre & a whole shitpile of others too numerous to mention.

A person had to be about half nuts in the first place to even consider voting for Trump. If you can't spot the con it's because you've been taught not to.