Trump admits to knowing COVID was deadly and that he deliberately misled the country

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Hayabusa Rider

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Why are you avoiding the question? Back to my point...the POTUS cant mandate wearing a mask. Congress can. Question is...why havent they?

Because Republicans wouldn't have it and it may not be Constitutional. But that doesn't keep Trump from fomenting insurrection in the name of "taking back freedom" in Michigan and elsewhere. Trump is facing a defamation suit and he's hired Barr and the DOJ to defend him at taxpayer expense. What law entitles him to that? Personal defense attornies, the DOJ? Trump gives f all about right or wrong or limits. What Trump could have done is not lie and get supplies out instead of insisting this is no big deal.
 
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LOL what did he say?

I saw in in a deplorable friends Facebook post.
Basically Woodward is a traitor for knowing in March the virus was deadly and not doing anything.

In a sense I understand what’s being said, HOWEVER the important point is the President needed time to act. Woodward revealing it the moment he learned would be strange.
 

purbeast0

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I saw in in a deplorable friends Facebook post.
Basically Woodward is a traitor for knowing in March the virus was deadly and not doing anything.

In a sense I understand what’s being said, HOWEVER the important point is the President needed time to act. Woodward revealing it the moment he learned would be strange.
I'm not asking what randoms are saying - I'm asking what Trump said.
 

fskimospy

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I saw in in a deplorable friends Facebook post.
Basically Woodward is a traitor for knowing in March the virus was deadly and not doing anything.

In a sense I understand what’s being said, HOWEVER the important point is the President needed time to act. Woodward revealing it the moment he learned would be strange.
It is also 100% irrelevant. If Bob Woodward is the best person or the worst person in the world it doesn’t matter. If Bob Woodward should have notified the country and didn’t it doesn’t matter.

Woodward isn’t the president. Trump is. We are not having an election to see if Bob Woodward gets to keep being a journalist.
 
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It is also 100% irrelevant. If Bob Woodward is the best person or the worst person in the world it doesn’t matter. If Bob Woodward should have notified the country and didn’t it doesn’t matter.

Woodward isn’t the president. Trump is. We are not having an election to see if Bob Woodward gets to keep being a journalist.

Exactly.
I don’t expect anybody including the President not to ever make a mistake especially regarding something complex like COVID. I do expect them to do something.
 

Starbuck1975

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You omit at the same time Trump knew how deadly this virus was he was planning large indoor rallies and not requiring masks. Does that sound like the actions of a President with the people's welfare as a priority? Wasn't he putting his own people in harm's way?

What does tell you?
No it does not, but at what point in Trump’s entire political career had he ever indicated that people’s welfare was a priority to him? I recognize we expect that of a President, but Trump quite transparently ran as someone who is not Presidential, not has he ever made an attempt to act as such. The pandemic gave Trump an opportunity to rise and change the narrative of his entire legacy, and he failed.
 

Starbuck1975

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He never had a plan, you are giving him way too much credit. He was in over his head from the start but has always been incapable of admitting it, even to himself, much less anyone else.
I am not giving him any credit. Trump is more PT Barnum than Presidential, although even Barnum was capable of becoming a reasonably successful politician.
 
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It is also 100% irrelevant. If Bob Woodward is the best person or the worst person in the world it doesn’t matter. If Bob Woodward should have notified the country and didn’t it doesn’t matter.

Woodward isn’t the president. Trump is. We are not having an election to see if Bob Woodward gets to keep being a journalist.

Also irrelevant is replying to posters' that are blatantly intentionally trying to sabotage discussions. You're not accomplishing anything worthwhile. You make good posts, I'd rather not have to start ignoring them because you can't stop muddying up threads by smearing the shit of others that decided to metaphorically shit on the floor, all over. The person you responded to is how multiple other posters acted before they devolved into the unrepentant outright lying assholes they now are.
 

ch33zw1z

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I saw in in a deplorable friends Facebook post.
Basically Woodward is a traitor for knowing in March the virus was deadly and not doing anything.

In a sense I understand what’s being said, HOWEVER the important point is the President needed time to act. Woodward revealing it the moment he learned would be strange.
Plenty of journalists were sounding the alarm. I understand the words people are saying, it just doesn't matter, it's all deflection.
 

VRAMdemon

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I'm sure most of Trumps advisors thought the interviews were a bad idea, but Trump insisted. He wanted to do it because an interview by Woodward is something that all recent presidents have done and it proves that you are the real deal and a way to convey his greatness. Sort of like getting your face on the cover of Time. Also he thought he could bullshit/charm Woodward just like he did tabloid journalists back when he was a "big player" in New York.
 

MtnMan

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I see you didn't read the thread.

On "The Daily Briefing," host John Roberts asked Fauci if he thought Trump had played down the threat of the virus.

"No, I didn't," Fauci responded. "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. I mean in my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had. We related that to him. And when he would go out, I'd hear him discussing the same sort of things. He would often say, 'We just got through with a briefing with the group from the task force,' and would talk about it. So it may have happened, but I have not seen that kind of distortion."
Fauci recognizes if he counters Trump, he is fired. He also recognizes that if he is fired, his ability to have any control or say in how the country handles the virus is over. He knows that he will be replace by a Trump stooge, perhaps the 'demon sperm' doctor.
 

MtnMan

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Fauci didn't survive in his position through 6 presidents without being somewhat political and he is generally fairly subtle. This is why I have a trust but verify approach with Fauci on anything he says about the vaccines, so far I don't think he's lied but, again, you don't stay in that position for that long without being at least somewhat political.
And never has he been more tested than walking the Trump tightrope of mental illness and fragile ego.
 

MtnMan

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I saw in in a deplorable friends Facebook post.
Basically Woodward is a traitor for knowing in March the virus was deadly and not doing anything.

In a sense I understand what’s being said, HOWEVER the important point is the President needed time to act. Woodward revealing it the moment he learned would be strange.
You need smarter friends on fb.
 

VRAMdemon

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Contrast that, with this. Moments later.


NO PANIC!

They’re already saying that Trump just didn’t want people to panic, so it’s nothingburger.

They assume we won’t recall that Trump has worked hard to create panic: about “caravans;” about “MS-13;” about ‘socialists and anarchists taking over;’ about ‘plane-loads of antifa thugs’ flying around and brandishing weapons.

Creating panic is Trump’s signature move. Something he likes to do.

Of course the smoking gun would have been Trump being explicit about where he wanted to avoid panic: on Wall Street. Because Trump is convinced that so long as the stock market is doing well, his re-election is in the bag.

I have no doubt that Trump’s base will believe he was telling the complete truth when he said that Covid19 was no danger. And they will believe he was also telling the complete truth when he said that Covid19 IS a serious danger. It’s a form of victim-blaming. “The president lied to you because you’re a bunch of hysterical crybabies who can’t handle the truth. Stop crying about it, you hysterical crybaby!”
 
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VRAMdemon

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Which is what any deranged narcissist would say.

The reason I didn’t tell my Mom my cat’s litter box needed cleaning wasn’t because I didn’t want to clean it; I didn’t tell her because I didn’t want her to panic…and if she saw me cleaning it, she might panic. Not cleaning it was the right decision.