Trump Admin Threatens to Stop Social Security If DOGE Can’t Have Personal Data

[Brainonska511]

This is to prevent theft of SS Payments. They need to ensure you are who you say you are.

I agree they should not be closing SS Offices. They probably need to open more.

How does making someone appear in person stop fraud?

 

[iRONic]

This is not an uncommon event. Even before DOGE.

Thousands of People Mistakenly Declared Dead Every Year

Susan and Darby Nye of Arlington, Virginia, have been married for 30 years and were looking forward to many more in retirement when Susan started receiving condolences from various federal agencies regarding the death of her husband. But there was one big problem: Darby was alive and well. It...

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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/08/10/489318279/social-security-data-errors-can-turn-people-into-the-living-dead

In the United States, an estimated 12,200 living people are mistakenly declared dead annually by the Social Security Administration (SSA).

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You FUCKING IDIOT!!!

SSA was doing their jobs. fElon is only doing what the felon in chief is trying to do: destroy our democracy from within by fomenting FUD and making it more difficult to survive.

 

[pcgeek11]

How does making someone appear in person stop fraud?

Show a Valid picture ID and they can actually see you and match you to the ID. Over a phone call or the internet you could be anybody.

I would rather do that than have someone steal my identity and my SS.

 

[pcgeek11]

You FUCKING IDIOT!!!

SSA was doing their jobs. fElon is only doing what the felon in chief is trying to do: destroy our democracy from within by fomenting FUD and making it more difficult to survive.

Yeah sure, Okay....

 

[iRONic]

Dumbass says what…?

 

[pcgeek11]

Dumbass says what…?

He said this:

You FUCKING IDIOT!!!

SSA was doing their jobs. fElon is only doing what the felon in chief is trying to do: destroy our democracy from within by fomenting FUD and making it more difficult to survive.

 

[Brainonska511]

Show a Valid picture ID and they can actually see you and match you to the ID. Over a phone call or the internet you could be anybody.

I would rather do that than have someone steal my identity and my SS.

"Showing valid ID" worked great when someone used a fraudulent ID to rent a car in person in name. So again, how does appearing in person help?

There are plenty of ways to validate people electronically, by mail, or over the phone (including using a combination of things).

 

[pcgeek11]

"Showing valid ID" worked great when someone used a fraudulent ID to rent a car in person in name. So again, how does appearing in person help?

There are plenty of ways to validate people electronically, by mail, or over the phone (including using a combination of things).

I'm not arguing about what the BEST Method would be to verify... That is the way they chose... Meh.

 

[nickqt]

Better a few hundred thousand legitimate SS beneficiaries starve than a couple of fraudulent SS beneficiaries get benefits revoked using the existing process that doesn't cause hundreds of thousands of legitimate SS beneficiaries to starve.

It's a death cult.

 

[Brainonska511]

I'm not arguing about what the BEST Method would be to verify... That is the way they chose... Meh.

So you're just JAQing off and defending stupidity.

 

[hal2kilo]

So you're just JAQing off and defending stupidity.

That what he consistently does. That's what I is for.

 

[pcgeek11]

So you're just JAQing off and defending stupidity.

That what he consistently does. That's what I is for.

Not at all.
I just don't go along with "That is how we have always done it" as you all seem satisfied with.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Pcgeek is a 88 lover and evil. That is clear. A traitor to America. A coward and enabler of avarice.

 

[Brainonska511]

Not at all.
I just don't go along with "That is how we have always done it" as you all seem satisfied with.

I'm not defending the status quo. But if you want to rock the boat, it should at least be justified. Hand waving at fraud isn't an excuse.

Show us how much fraud is actually costing. Show us how much extreme countermeasures will cost. And show us how much normal people will be inconvenienced or wrongly denied benefits because of new technical hurdles.

Locking a system down so tightly that fewer people can get their legally entitled benefits because you're so afraid of nearly non-existent or low levels of fraud seems kind of like a big waste of money and counter productive.

 

[pcgeek11]

Pcgeek is a 88 lover and evil. That is clear. A traitor to America. A coward and enabler of avarice.

I don't know or care what an 88 lover is or what you are implying here... Shrug.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm not arguing about what the BEST Method would be to verify... That is the way they chose... Meh.

I love how I can be trusted by the IRS to handle the government's tax money without proof of who I am, but they need proof to fulfill a congressional mandate.

 

[pcgeek11]

I had to drive 50 miles this month to get my drivers license renewed and to have my vision tested at the DMV.

Or I would have to pay an eye doctor to provide certification of my vision and have it done by mail.

Them bastards!

 

[Indus]

$25 in gas or $25 for the doctor.

Pick your poison!

 

[IronWing]

I had to drive 50 miles this month to get my drivers license renewed and to have my vision tested at the DMV.

Or I would have to pay an eye doctor to provide certification of my vision and have it done by mail.

Them bastards!

Oh , you can still drive? Cool! You can volunteer to drive the invalids to the SS office to prove they’re not unalived. All because Nazis want them dead.

 

[K1052]

It is always interesting how some people are totally and utterly incapable of imagining a situation other than their own.

 

[Roger Wilco]

It is always interesting how some people are totally and utterly incapable of imagining a situation other than their own.

Empathy is a lot rarer than presumed.

 

[iRONic]

I had to drive 50 miles this month to get my drivers license renewed and to have my vision tested at the DMV.

Or I would have to pay an eye doctor to provide certification of my vision and have it done by mail.

Them bastards!

Lucky motherfucker. These people went to renew their licenses and got killed:

Three people were killed in a shooting at a Department of Motor Vehicles office near Louisville, Kentucky, on Friday (February 21). The incident occurred around noon at the Driver Licensing Regional Office on Dixie Highway, just north of Interstate 265. According to the Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD), one man died at the scene, while two women succumbed to their injuries after being taken to the University of Louisville Hospital.

Shooting At DMV Office Leaves Three People Dead | iHeart

Authorities said they have no suspects in the shooting. | iHeart

www.iheart.com

 

[Indus]

Empathy is a lot rarer than presumed.

MAGA: stop confusing us with rational thinking and reasoning based on facts.

 

[WilliamM2]

Empathy is a lot rarer than presumed.

Especially among the so called christian right, with their high morals.

 

[brycejones]

I had to drive 50 miles this month to get my drivers license renewed and to have my vision tested at the DMV.

Or I would have to pay an eye doctor to provide certification of my vision and have it done by mail.

Them bastards!

Be pissed at the state for providing such shitty service. Don’t you live in Charleston? How scarce are DMV offices on the ground in South Carolina?