Trump 6 point lead

[senseamp]

Yeah, ask the people of the Soviet Union, Cuba, China, and Venezuela how trickle up is working.

35 years of trickle down, and still Republican base is angry that they are being left behind and screwed as the people they vote give tax breaks to, including Wall Street and liberal elites get even richer. Now their life expectancy is starting to fall, but they are still doubling down on stupid.
Their hate and stupidity is destroying them. They started the failed war on drugs to go after minorities, now they are being decimated by meth. They voted to gut welfare for mythical Cadillac welfare queens, now they are poor. They voted for the village neocon idiot, their kids became cannon fodder in Iraq and they got their house foreclosed on. But after screwing themselves with no lube for 35 years, they have finally cracked tge nut with Trump, amirite?

 

[Victorian Gray]

No, but he might win it.

It took a while but it didn't end well for the last guy who invaded.

 

[Ackmed]

Seems cherry picked and not true. All polls I've seen show them pretty close overall, with Clinton with a small lead.

 

[flexy]

How is Trump different from socialism, or communism (!) even, seeing that National Socialism, "normal" socialism and communism, although having entirely failed in practice, did the same thing Trump is doing:

CLAIMING it will all be so oh-so super-great for the "little people".

Heck, I cannot fucking even name one political party or system which didn't claim that it will magically benefit the "little people", aka the masses of average people, the majority of VOTERS..because they need their fucking vote.

It doesn't matter whether it's billionaires sitting in golden towers, oligarchs or the fucking Politburo.
The scam is the same, just a different name.
And there is no reason to believe that Trump would be different....in fact it's absurd in a "fight" against Oligarchy to pick, FROM ALL PEOPLE, fucking Trump, the prime example of an Oligarch.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, 47% Dem, 39% R, and 11% independent. lol. 405 polled. Wow.

Yet another sign that you don't understand polling or statistics. Not that we need more evidence of that. Party ID is an output, not an input. Complaining about party ID is the same argument that the unskewed polls guy made in 2012. It's for stupid people.

Did you happen to check out the LA Times poll? See that black number? Obama begging for the black vote? Hispanics not turning out?

The LA Times poll is using panel data, not a random sample. It is useful for trends, not for an accurate representation of the race. If you were competent you would understand this.

You guys are in trouble. Your weak kneed old hag who wants more illegals, more terrorists, more nanny state, more shitty trade agreements, is straggling. She is one coughing fit away from a rout/landslide. She looked like shit last night and couldn't even remember what she said 40 seconds prior.

It says a lot that she can't even pull this out and she has the help of the Press, the sitting President, and a former President and a billion dollars.

This is Brexit 2.0 for you fuckers.

Emotional ranting.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yet another sign that you don't understand polling or statistics. Not that we need more evidence of that. Party ID is an output, not an input. Complaining about party ID is the same argument that the unskewed polls guy made in 2012. It's for stupid people.



The LA Times poll is using panel data, not a random sample. It is useful for trends, not for an accurate representation of the race. If you were competent you would understand this.



Emotional ranting.

If you don't think they fool with the "skew" of party ID, then you're a fucking moron. It's not always a raw output and you know it.

And the trends are mirroring polls.

 

[fskimospy]

If you don't think they fool with the "skew" of party ID, then you're a fucking moron. It's not always a raw output and you know it.

And the trends are mirroring polls.

Polls are not adjusted based on party ID, genius. You are so incompetent.

 

[LegendKiller]

Polls are not adjusted based on party ID, genius. You are so incompetent.

lol - one of them was caught "unskewing" a poll a few weeks back. The guy fully admitted it, saying that it didn't match 2012 voting patterns and that he was adjusting for race/gender "skew". Yet, interestingly enough, once he was asked for data underlying the "correction" he went radio silent.

I'll look for it, think it might have been Monmouth but it could have been Quinn.

 

[fskimospy]

lol - one of them was caught "unskewing" a poll a few weeks back. The guy fully admitted it, saying that it didn't match 2012 voting patterns and that he was adjusting for race/gender "skew". Yet, interestingly enough, once he was asked for data underlying the "correction" he went radio silent.

I'll look for it, think it might have been Monmouth but it could have been Quinn.

Polls almost always adjust for demographics, that's just smart scientific polling. This is also something that all pollsters say upfront, which you would know if you understood how polling works. This is because race and gender are static, known quantities, unlike party ID. Your race never changes, but what party you identify with most certainly can. This is why party ID is an output.

It's funny that you're so incompetent that you mistake basic best practices for some sort of skew or bias.

 

[LegendKiller]

Polls almost always adjust for demographics, that's just smart scientific polling. This is also something that all pollsters say upfront, which you would know if you understood how polling works. This is because race and gender are static, known quantities, unlike party ID. Your race never changes, but what party you identify with most certainly can. This is why party ID is an output.

It's funny that you're so incompetent that you mistake basic best practices for some sort of skew or bias.

Except this wasn't done inside of disclosed methodology. Trying to find it...

S'okay dude, you can keep hurling the insults. Don't bother me.

 

[fskimospy]

Except this wasn't done inside of disclosed methodology. Trying to find it...

S'okay dude, you can keep hurling the insults. Don't bother me.

That seems unlikely as basically every pollster mentions that their results are adjusted for demographics, certainly every major pollster does. It's more likely that whatever right wing news source you heard this from is as inept at understanding polls as you are and mistook this adjustment for something nefarious. None of that really matters as to your original point of party ID mattering in the poll though, that was just a very basic error on your part.

You seem to be confused though: saying that you are incompetent isn't an insult, it's just a statement of fact. You are trying to critique polls when you don't have the expertise necessary to do so. This is similar to when you tried to play statistician in the past when looking at economic data.

 

[umbrella39]

All I see is a typical low information TrumpTard unable to admit when they are wrong. SSDD. YAWN...

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, ask the people of the Soviet Union, Cuba, China, and Venezuela how trickle up is working.

You can only steal from productive people for so long until they become unproductive and your system collapses. You guys haven't learned that. Nor have you learned that the same people who would have it that way are no different than the Soviet Politburo members and their Dachas. Nor have you learned that the Dacha loving guys are no different than the Oligarchs of today. The balance is in the middle and neither the Politburo or the Oligarchs will ever let you get there. Change must come.

yes, it's pretty clear that you wouldn't know real communism if it crawled up your ass and died.

 

[shady28]

lol - one of them was caught "unskewing" a poll a few weeks back. ..

It was Chuck Todd on MSNBC "Unskewing" a CNN poll.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-poll-cnn-msnbc-227804

 

[JSt0rm]

35 years of trickle down, and still Republican base is angry that they are being left behind and screwed as the people they vote give tax breaks to, including Wall Street and liberal elites get even richer. Now their life expectancy is starting to fall, but they are still doubling down on stupid.
Their hate and stupidity is destroying them. They started the failed war on drugs to go after minorities, now they are being decimated by meth. They voted to gut welfare for mythical Cadillac welfare queens, now they are poor. They voted for the village neocon idiot, their kids became cannon fodder in Iraq and they got their house foreclosed on. But after screwing themselves with no lube for 35 years, they have finally cracked tge nut with Trump, amirite?

owned.

 

[Roflmouth]

Seems cherry picked and not true. All polls I've seen show them pretty close overall, with Clinton with a small lead.

"All polls?" LOL

 

[Roflmouth]

35 years of trickle down, and still Republican base is angry that they are being left behind and screwed as the people they vote give tax breaks to, including Wall Street and liberal elites get even richer. Now their life expectancy is starting to fall, but they are still doubling down on stupid.
Their hate and stupidity is destroying them. They started the failed war on drugs to go after minorities, now they are being decimated by meth. They voted to gut welfare for mythical Cadillac welfare queens, now they are poor. They voted for the village neocon idiot, their kids became cannon fodder in Iraq and they got their house foreclosed on. But after screwing themselves with no lube for 35 years, they have finally cracked tge nut with Trump, amirite?

It must kill you that in order to believe the above tantrum, you have to admit that the Democrats are just that colossally unappealing. LOL

 

[Indus]

It must kill you that in order to believe the above tantrum, you have to admit that the Democrats are just that colossally unappealing. LOL

7 million US children are prostituting themselves to put food on the table for their family. That is income inequality that it isn't happening in a 3rd world country but here in the USA but Republicans, Tea Partiers and Libertarians and especially TRUMP are fixing the problem how?

cutting food stamps, pell grants and healthcare...

Way to go... rofl @ you.

 

[zinfamous]

It must kill you that in order to believe the above tantrum, you have to admit that the Democrats are just that colossally unappealing. LOL

That is one epic bubble.

 

[cytg111]

Hillary embalmed, mumified, tied to a stick, corpse dripping with ebola, small pox and the spanish flu.. would STILL make a better president than Trump! By miles. By parsecs.

 

[senseamp]

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/11/boomers-deaths-pnas/413971/

The study authors sum it up:
Between 1978 to 1998, the mortality rate for U.S. whites aged 45 to 54 fell by 2 percent per year on average, which matched the average rate of decline in the six countries shown, and the average over all other industrialized countries. After 1998, other rich countries’ mortality rates continued to decline by 2 percent a year. In contrast, U.S. white non-Hispanic mortality rose by half a percent a year. No other rich country saw a similar turnaround. That means “half a million people are dead who should not be dead,” Angus Deaton, the 2015 Nobel laureate in economics and co-author of the paper, toldThe Washington Post. “About 40 times the Ebola stats. You’re getting up there with HIV-AIDS.”
The reasons for the increased death rate are not the usual things that kill Americans, like diabetes and heart disease. Rather, it’s suicide, alcohol and drug poisonings, and alcohol-related liver disease.
The least-educated are worst off: All-cause mortality among middle-aged Americans with a high-school degree or less increased by 134 deaths per 100,000 people between 1999 and 2013, but there was little change in mortality for people with some college. The death rate for the college-educated fell slightly.

I feel bad for the Trumpers, I really do, but they are doing it to themselves.

 

[Roflmouth]

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/11/boomers-deaths-pnas/413971/

I feel bad for the Trumpers, I really do, but they are doing it to themselves.

Maybe you just haven't called them enough names.

 

[senseamp]

Are they voting themselves into an early grave to spite people like me by giving us tax cuts?

 

[rockyct]

and now the USC/LA Times poll only shows Trump with a 2 point lead and is the only national poll in the last week (other than the always biased Rasmussen) that shows any Trump lead.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

and now the USC/LA Times poll only shows Trump with a 2 point lead and is the only national poll in the last week (other than the always biased Rasmussen) that shows any Trump lead.

Yea, the majority of polls are swinging back towards hillarys favor, but they could just as easily swing back towards drumpf. I doubt it now that the debates are starting, but who knows.