Truckers Block the 5 Freeway in Cali

[Regs]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: Skoorb
As a human being I have absolutely no tolerance for this sort of thing. If I was in charge, and thank your stars I'm not, I'd have these people getting executed on tv for doing something like this. In a way they're holding everybody hostage and forcing everybody else in to their little effort. I also would like to see burned to death those who picked in front of employer's and keep out temp workers.

WTF is wrong with protesting? Somebody has to do it or NOTHING will get done. I agree that gas prices are ridiculous and the only reason why we are getting shafted is because our government needs to get some balls and say enough is enough.

Sysadmin

That's all great and all if you don't brake the law doing it. Stopping a truck in a middle of a freeway is illegal.

But I have to say the only way to get the voice across these day's is thru drastic measures.

 

[Rufio]

This is F*CKING idiotic!!

These stupid truckers are hindering everyone else's time and schedules.

This is akin to when the dumb ass janitor strike in LA. They screwed up the traffic flow for BS demands.

Why should we have to suffer for other people's protesting?

 

[Vette73]

Please answer me this. IF there is not enough production then that should cause a shortage, NOT a price hike. If they are charging more for no other reason then they can, then that is gauging and is against the law. Yes a shortage CAN increase price. But the shortage has to come first then demand will make price go up, not the other way around (Like it is now).
Also has anyone noticed the profit and money made by oil companies has gone up, not down. So again if there was a shortage then they would make less money as there would be less product.
Sorry but I am not buying the whole ?Its because we don?t have enough refineries?? BS. If there were not enough product then stations would have signs saying they have no gas, I don?t see that. All I see is gas prices going up and oil companies making more money.
I might not agree with HOW they are protesting, but I am glad someone will at least do something and MAYBE Bush will have to tell his friends to lower the price more. Of course it is a re-election year so I am sure the price will ?DROP? right before the election. :roll:

 

[ivol07]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: Skoorb
As a human being I have absolutely no tolerance for this sort of thing. If I was in charge, and thank your stars I'm not, I'd have these people getting executed on tv for doing something like this. In a way they're holding everybody hostage and forcing everybody else in to their little effort. I also would like to see burned to death those who picked in front of employer's and keep out temp workers.

WTF is wrong with protesting? Somebody has to do it or NOTHING will get done. I agree that gas prices are ridiculous and the only reason why we are getting shafted is because our government needs to get some balls and say enough is enough.

Sysadmin

Yeah, but why hold up everyday people on their ways to work? Go protest the company that is charging the money, not the other people who also have to pay the high prices for gas.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Rufio
This is F*CKING idiotic!!

These stupid truckers are hindering everyone else's time and schedules.

This is akin to when the dumb ass janitor strike in LA. They screwed up the traffic flow for BS demands.

Why should we have to suffer for other people's protesting?

Probably because they think that traffic sucks in socal, if they can make it more miserable, they'll have their demands met quicker. Or they'll get thrown in jail

 

[Kelemvor]

Just wait for the Hydrogen Powered Semi Trucks. Or even the Hybrids. Then everyone will be happy.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: woowoo
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Truckers who own and operate their own rigs say they are being stung by the cost of diesel fuel, which has risen to $2.40 a gallon. They are demanding shipping and trucking companies share their pain by increasing shipping fees paid per container.
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$1.68 here for diesel

Is that HIGHWAY diesel or the other. There is cheaper diesel but it can't be used by some trucks or vehicals.

Don't drive in California?

I blame all the gas companies for not building refineries. The cost per barrel of crude has been much higher before

I blame environmentalist wackos for getting in the way of refinery building, power plant construction, and native oil drilling. they just want to wreak havoc on the economy.

C'mon Nitemare you should have known this ^ Jumpem is exactly right.

Who cares about the wacko environmentalists? Just drop the refinery right on top of them

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: Rufio
This is F*CKING idiotic!!

These stupid truckers are hindering everyone else's time and schedules.

This is akin to when the dumb ass janitor strike in LA. They screwed up the traffic flow for BS demands.

Why should we have to suffer for other people's protesting?

Probably because they think that traffic sucks in socal, if they can make it more miserable, they'll have their demands met quicker. Or they'll get thrown in jail

I think they will still get thrown in jail, but if they didn't pull off this stunt we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I am willing to bet this same argument is taking place in state and federal offices all over the country as well, sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: woowoo
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Truckers who own and operate their own rigs say they are being stung by the cost of diesel fuel, which has risen to $2.40 a gallon. They are demanding shipping and trucking companies share their pain by increasing shipping fees paid per container.
End Quote

$1.68 here for diesel

Is that HIGHWAY diesel or the other. There is cheaper diesel but it can't be used by some trucks or vehicals.

Diesel is diesel in the stations, but theres a tax break for "agricultural" diesel. While it runs in all vehicles like "regular" diesel, it has marking dyes to distinguish it from normal deisel. Using "agricultural" diesel in non farm equipment is looking at a big fine.
Least thats how I remember it.

 

[dolph]

i don't think people will be able to tell the difference, the way traffic moves on the freeway at this time of day
seriously though, i would rape and murder the truckers if that was part of my morning commute. the entire trucking industry is a complete and total farce, the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination. railroads go virtually everywhere, and are immeasurably more efficient. (compare mass transit to private autos.) the only reason we still have a trucking industry as strong as it is because of the teamsters, and i doubt they'll find much love on this board.

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: dolph
the entire trucking industry is a complete and total farce, the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination. railroads go virtually everywhere, and are immeasurably more efficient.

You've got to be kidding me. Trucking is the backbone of this country. How efficient would these railroads of yours be if they had a spur into every single business in each city? Ridiculous logic.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: woowoo
Quote
Truckers who own and operate their own rigs say they are being stung by the cost of diesel fuel, which has risen to $2.40 a gallon. They are demanding shipping and trucking companies share their pain by increasing shipping fees paid per container.
End Quote

$1.68 here for diesel

Is that HIGHWAY diesel or the other. There is cheaper diesel but it can't be used by some trucks or vehicals.

Diesel is diesel in the stations, but theres a tax break for "agricultural" diesel. While it runs in all vehicles like "regular" diesel, it has marking dyes to distinguish it from normal deisel. Using "agricultural" diesel in non farm equipment is looking at a big fine.
Least thats how I remember it.

No what we have around here is High sulfer and Low sulfer. One is cheaper but can't be used on the higway or soemthing. Not really sure as I don't drive diesel anymore (tow-truck) so nt sure what is TRUCKER useable, and non-trucker style?

 

[dolph]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: dolph
the entire trucking industry is a complete and total farce, the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination. railroads go virtually everywhere, and are immeasurably more efficient.

You've got to be kidding me. Trucking is the backbone of this country. How efficient would these railroads of yours be if they had a spur into every single business in each city? Ridiculous logic.

what part of "the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination" did you not get? i promise you, those "railroads of mine" move far more goods far better, and for far cheaper. truckers' sole purpose should be from moving from the train depot to the distribution centers. no more than 50 miles each way, and that's being very generous.

 

[NuclearNed]

Hmmm.... people trying to enforce their will on others without the others' consent. If it were up to me, these trucks would now belong to the sunny state of California, and the drivers would be getting some jail-cell romancing.

Nobody is happy about high fuel costs, but basically these guys are throwing a tantrum.

 

[HamSupLo]

what's preventing people from getting out of their cars and kicking the sh!t outta those truck drivers? just don't block the 710 fwy please.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: LordJezo
reason?

Because they are a bunch of fvcking idiots.

My friend works right near there and e-mailed me about this an hour ago. I guess he can see them from his office.

 

[Vette73]

Tell him to get some pics

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: Skoorb
As a human being I have absolutely no tolerance for this sort of thing. If I was in charge, and thank your stars I'm not, I'd have these people getting executed on tv for doing something like this. In a way they're holding everybody hostage and forcing everybody else in to their little effort. I also would like to see burned to death those who picked in front of employer's and keep out temp workers.

WTF is wrong with protesting? Somebody has to do it or NOTHING will get done. I agree that gas prices are ridiculous and the only reason why we are getting shafted is because our government needs to get some balls and say enough is enough.

Sysadmin

Protest all you like. Just don't get in my damn way. If I was on the way to work and some sh*t head decided to block 10,000 cars on the I-65 to make his stupid point I'd clap if somebody dragged him out of his truck and beat the crap out of him. It's grossly inconsiderate and costs thousands of dollars with all those lost hours from this bastard blocking people who have no interest in being his pawns.

They deserve to have MAJOR fines levied on them, and possibly their trucks permanently seized, and jail-time, as mentioned above. I wouldn't be surprised if they cost some emergency services access to somewhere they wanted to go, and other than the fact it's a pain in the ass to thousands of people these truckers are costing so damn much with the stunt.

I say draw and quarter them, and hang their body parts from an overpass.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: woowoo
Quote
Truckers who own and operate their own rigs say they are being stung by the cost of diesel fuel, which has risen to $2.40 a gallon. They are demanding shipping and trucking companies share their pain by increasing shipping fees paid per container.
End Quote

$1.68 here for diesel

Is that HIGHWAY diesel or the other. There is cheaper diesel but it can't be used by some trucks or vehicals.

Diesel is diesel in the stations, but theres a tax break for "agricultural" diesel. While it runs in all vehicles like "regular" diesel, it has marking dyes to distinguish it from normal deisel. Using "agricultural" diesel in non farm equipment is looking at a big fine.
Least thats how I remember it.

No what we have around here is High sulfer and Low sulfer. One is cheaper but can't be used on the higway or soemthing. Not really sure as I don't drive diesel anymore (tow-truck) so nt sure what is TRUCKER useable, and non-trucker style?

I think sulfur content is more for "clean" versus "dirty" diesel. I believe high sulfur deisel's burn dirtier then low sulfur diesels. I think the high sulfur's are also cheaper, which would account for people wanting to use it. However then theres the issue of meeting pollution requireemnts, which would require low sulfer which is costlier.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Shockwave
And the oil supply dwindles.......

The oil supply isn't really that bad. It's that this country hasn't built any new refineries in over twenty years. We have plenty of crude oil, but not enough capacity to turn it into gasoline.

on top of that is the fact California's requirement for the emission of the vehicle. So the process of making gasoline from crude oil is more expensive

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: dolph

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: dolph
the entire trucking industry is a complete and total farce, the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination. railroads go virtually everywhere, and are immeasurably more efficient.

You've got to be kidding me. Trucking is the backbone of this country. How efficient would these railroads of yours be if they had a spur into every single business in each city? Ridiculous logic.

what part of "the only reason we should have truckers at all is to move containers from trains to their intended destination" did you not get? i promise you, those "railroads of mine" move far more goods far better, and for far cheaper. truckers' sole purpose should be from moving from the train depot to the distribution centers. no more than 50 miles each way, and that's being very generous.

i agree with dolph, but alaska, trains can't get there, trucks have to driv e on ice, haha, don't know why i wanted to point that out, but i sure thought it was cool when i heard about it!

 

[VTEC01EX]

I hope diesel goes up more now because of this - thanks to all of those idling cars on "The 5" and the fuel they wasted by doing this. That's what happens when you get a bunch of stereotypically dimwitted truckers together and get them pissed off. I wouldn't mind $3/gal gas... maybe it would make all those people who drive SUVs and trucks for absolutely no good reason reconsider. I'm not anti-SUV or truck, but if it's just you in the car and you never pull anything, get some common sense. Of course, I also average 35mpg on a bad day and I actually try to use public transportation, putting me in the severe minority.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Shockwave
And the oil supply dwindles.......

The oil supply isn't really that bad. It's that this country hasn't built any new refineries in over twenty years. We have plenty of crude oil, but not enough capacity to turn it into gasoline.

Plus the 4th largest refinery was knocked offline, and several other refineries arent able to function at full capacity.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
why do californians preface freeways with 'the'?

what's wrong with that?

which sounds better to you:


The truckers jack-knifed their vehicles on the I5 today.


or


The truckers jack-knifed their vehicles on I5 today.

 

[Anubis]

thats pointless its not gonna make the price go down