Troopergate Reaching Critical Mass: ABC Interviews Monegan

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jpeytonopinion piece deleted

Your point?

I thought the final report was coming out soon? how the hell could the final report be coming out if they want information from her(that you fringe types are trying to claim she's stonewalling on)?

Don't you think that all the data would have been collected by now?

 

[jpeyton]

She was the one inviting the investigation, inviting questions about it on national TV. Why be uncooperative if you have nothing to hide?

Now she's doing the Texas two-step.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
She was the one inviting the investigation, inviting questions about it on national TV.

Now she's doing the Texas two-step.

Uhh... sounds like she's already cooperated with the investigation. Again, what more could they need if they are this close to the final report? It isn't like this is something new - it's been going on for quite a while.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jpeytonopinion piece deleted

Your point?

I thought the final report was coming out soon? how the hell could the final report be coming out if they want information from her(that you fringe types are trying to claim she's stonewalling on)?

Don't you think that all the data would have been collected by now?

Even if all the data that ends up in the report has been collected there are still zillions of ways to delay the release of something, you must know that. I have no idea if Palin/McCain/The Republicans have tried to delay it but to say that they couldn't still act to obstruct the release is pretty naive.

 

[jpeyton]

Bravo CNN for exposing her truthiness problem live.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jpeytonopinion piece deleted

Your point?

I thought the final report was coming out soon? how the hell could the final report be coming out if they want information from her(that you fringe types are trying to claim she's stonewalling on)?

Don't you think that all the data would have been collected by now?

Even if all the data that ends up in the report has been collected there are still zillions of ways to delay the release of something, you must know that. I have no idea if Palin/McCain/The Republicans have tried to delay it but to say that they couldn't still act to obstruct the release is pretty naive.

I heard those scumbags hired Sandy Berger to stuff it down his pants !!!!:Q

 

[Druidx]

Am I wrong or is the OP trying to misrepresent an opinion piece written by anonymous John Q. Public as legitimate news?

 

[jpeyton]

I guess she didn't sell that plane on eBay after all.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that it's being moved up like this makes it clear to the public that it's yet another desperate democratic attempt to smear her, and that's how it will be interpreted: in other words, it won't matter except to the looney left frothing fringe.

Then you've got nothing to be afraid of, and everything to cheer about. Call or e-mail Senator French's office and thank him for his fine work.

Nope, I'm not "afraid" at all, basically it's going to give her a free pass, no matter what happened. By changing the release of the information to suit political smear designs, French will ensure that if the report makes negative conclusions about her conduct, it will be seen as political hackery as usual. If the report comes to a different conclusion (highly unlikely since it will be a democrat written report based on politics), the republicans will be able to use it. Either way, it defeats the purpose of the investigation.

I've already talked to people who view this as another attempt to smear her, and are now more likely to support her because of that.

 

[DealMonkey]

Why does this remind me of Gonzales's politicizing of the Justice Dep't and the subsequent firing of State AG's for merely being of the "wrong" political persuasion? Damn, Palin fits right in with the Administration's constant abuses of power. I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: jpeytonopinion piece deleted

Your point?

I thought the final report was coming out soon? how the hell could the final report be coming out if they want information from her(that you fringe types are trying to claim she's stonewalling on)?

Don't you think that all the data would have been collected by now?

Even if all the data that ends up in the report has been collected there are still zillions of ways to delay the release of something, you must know that. I have no idea if Palin/McCain/The Republicans have tried to delay it but to say that they couldn't still act to obstruct the release is pretty naive.

I heard those scumbags hired Sandy Berger to stuff it down his pants !!!!:Q

Well I wasn't thinking of any pants stuffing, I was thinking more of motions to compile additional evidence, requests for further analysis, things like that.

Although to be honest I hope they catch someone stuffing documents down their pants, I feel like all scandals could use something awesome like that.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that it's being moved up like this makes it clear to the public that it's yet another desperate democratic attempt to smear her, and that's how it will be interpreted: in other words, it won't matter except to the looney left frothing fringe.

Then you've got nothing to be afraid of, and everything to cheer about. Call or e-mail Senator French's office and thank him for his fine work.

Nope, I'm not "afraid" at all, basically it's going to give her a free pass, no matter what happened. By changing the release of the information to suit political smear designs, French will ensure that if the report makes negative conclusions about her conduct, it will be seen as political hackery as usual. If the report comes to a different conclusion (highly unlikely since it will be a democrat written report based on politics), the republicans will be able to use it. Either way, it defeats the purpose of the investigation.

I've already talked to people who view this as another attempt to smear her, and are now more likely to support her because of that.

I'm always amazed at the sheer number of people that everyone on here 'talks to' during the course of their day who just happen to agree with their position on whatever thread is going on.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I guess she didn't sell that plane on eBay after all.

Sigh..... She never said she sold it on ebay, in her speech at the convention on Wednesday, she said she put it on ebay. It didn't sell, and thus they sold it to someone else. So yes, it was put on ebay, and it was sold. Are you having such a hard time pinning anything on her that you're really reaching out in desperation now?

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

My point exactly, that's what people will see it for, a political smear attempt.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm always amazed at the sheer number of people that everyone on here 'talks to' during the course of their day who just happen to agree with their position on whatever thread is going on.

I'm sorry, I forgot to ask if my position had merit before posting. In your all-knowing wisdom, go ahead and tell me it doesn't 😉

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

My point exactly, that's what people will see it for, a political smear attempt.

She's running for public office. Her, and everything she's associated with is now an open book. If she did something improper, or even illegal, she should suffer the consequences for it. It's only your own partisan bias that leads you to call the slightest attempt to learn the truth about this virtually unknown candidate a "smear attempt."

Let me guess - you're one of these GOP cheerleaders who seem to think Palin is off-limits? We can't question her. Her own state can't investigate her when it appears she's acted inappropriately (at the very least).

Gimme a break.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

My point exactly, that's what people will see it for, a political smear attempt.

She's running for public office. Her, and everything she's associated with is now an open book. If she did something improper, or even illegal, she should suffer the consequences for it. It's only your own partisan bias that leads you to call the slightest attempt to learn the truth about this virtually unknown candidate a "smear attempt."

Let me guess - you're one of these GOP cheerleaders who seem to think Palin is off-limits? We can't question her. Her own state can't investigate her when it appears she's acted inappropriately (at the very least).

Gimme a break.

No, I don't think anything is off-limits, the investigation should have been allowed to run it's course, and whatever findings there are could be legitimate. Now they are clearly attempting to use the report as a political hammering tool, which removes any legitimacy it may have had. It essentially becomes irrelevant because it's a political tool, not a legitimate investigative report.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

My point exactly, that's what people will see it for, a political smear attempt.

She's running for public office. Her, and everything she's associated with is now an open book. If she did something improper, or even illegal, she should suffer the consequences for it. It's only your own partisan bias that leads you to call the slightest attempt to learn the truth about this virtually unknown candidate a "smear attempt."

Let me guess - you're one of these GOP cheerleaders who seem to think Palin is off-limits? We can't question her. Her own state can't investigate her when it appears she's acted inappropriately (at the very least).

Gimme a break.

No, I don't think anything is off-limits, the investigation should have been allowed to run it's course, and whatever findings there are could be legitimate. Now they are clearly attempting to use the report as a political hammering tool, which removes any legitimacy it may have had. It essentially becomes irrelevant because it's a political tool, not a legitimate investigative report.

It's being done by an independent investigator. It looks more and more like Palin's gotten herself in trouble over this and so it can and should be used as a political hammering tool. If she turns out to be guilty of misconduct why wouldn't they? That would be like Nixon complaining that people were using all the crimes he committed as political tools against him so they weren't important. (no, I'm not saying she's Nixon... blah blah)

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I hope Sen. French's report slaps the shit out of her.

My point exactly, that's what people will see it for, a political smear attempt.

She's running for public office. Her, and everything she's associated with is now an open book. If she did something improper, or even illegal, she should suffer the consequences for it. It's only your own partisan bias that leads you to call the slightest attempt to learn the truth about this virtually unknown candidate a "smear attempt."

Let me guess - you're one of these GOP cheerleaders who seem to think Palin is off-limits? We can't question her. Her own state can't investigate her when it appears she's acted inappropriately (at the very least).

Gimme a break.

No, I don't think anything is off-limits, the investigation should have been allowed to run it's course, and whatever findings there are could be legitimate. Now they are clearly attempting to use the report as a political hammering tool, which removes any legitimacy it may have had. It essentially becomes irrelevant because it's a political tool, not a legitimate investigative report.

It only becomes irrelevant to you. The rest of us want to hear the results. And if those results are negative, then certainly that may affect our opinion of Palin. Seems to me, only the McCain/Palin cheerleaders want to sweep this investigation under the rug. Who's the political tool now?

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It's being done by an independent investigator. It looks more and more like Palin's gotten herself in trouble over this and so it can and should be used as a political hammering tool. If she turns out to be guilty of misconduct why wouldn't they? That would be like Nixon complaining that people were using all the crimes he committed as political tools against him so they weren't important. (no, I'm not saying she's Nixon... blah blah)

You're missing the point. The average voter who's not into politics will see this as a political smear attempt because of the timing and the decision to move it's release up for political purposes, thus discrediting the legitimacy of the conclusions. We've already seen that with the polls showing more than half of Americans believing the media is out to smear her and discredit her.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: eskimospy
It's being done by an independent investigator. It looks more and more like Palin's gotten herself in trouble over this and so it can and should be used as a political hammering tool. If she turns out to be guilty of misconduct why wouldn't they? That would be like Nixon complaining that people were using all the crimes he committed as political tools against him so they weren't important. (no, I'm not saying she's Nixon... blah blah)

You're missing the point. The average voter who's not into politics will see this as a political smear attempt because of the timing and the decision to move it's release up for political purposes, thus discrediting the legitimacy of the conclusions. We've already seen that with the polls showing more than half of Americans believing the media is out to smear her and discredit her.

Sure they will. I'm glad to know you're such a good bellweather of what 'the average voter' will think. You just completely made up an opinion for people based on what you want to believe.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481
idk... when you've got a state with a population of 20, it seems inevitable that you'd find yourself working with and above family members.

So you're admitting she has Tinker Toy level executive experience!

 

[EagleKeeper]

so the report has not been issued.

A Dem politician is stating that it will be damaging.

Sounds like it became a foregone conclusion from the git go.
Otherwise, why not release it immediately.

Funny that he can then move it up 3 weeks in advance only after he claims the McCain campaign contacted him.

 

[Dari]

Myabe if he wasn't being harrassed he wouldn't have moved it up.

 

[DealMonkey]

You can spin this either way.

For example - moving the report up 3 weeks will give ample opportunity for McCain/Palin to respond to it. Releasing it only 3-4 days prior to the election could actually be more damaging by not allowing ample response time by the McCain campaign and for the media/public to process it.

So which is it?